by Anskerdank » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:08 am
by Kenmoria » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:16 am
by Separatist Peoples » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:18 am
by Bears Armed » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:45 am
by Araraukar » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:12 pm
Anskerdank wrote:Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
The General Assembly,
Recognising the effect on an animal’s health
Acknowledges that they can be used to prevent animals from escaping
Noting that they can be abused easily
Hereby,
Defines an electric collar as a collar used to shock animals leaving boundaries
Bans the sale and use of all electric collars
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Denathor » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:31 pm
Anskerdank wrote:Recognising the effect on an animal’s health
Anskerdank wrote:Acknowledges that they can be used to prevent animals from escaping
Anskerdank wrote:Noting that they can be abused easily
Anskerdank wrote:Defines an electric collar as a collar used to shock animals leaving boundaries
Anskerdank wrote:Bans the sale and use of all electric collars
by The COT Corporation » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:28 am
Bears Armed wrote:OOC
Category & Strength are correct, anyway.
And "Congratulations" for having the sense to post here first, instead of just going straight ahead & submitting it...
by Teretstein » Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:54 am
by Araraukar » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:55 pm
Teretstein wrote:Ambassador,
Please suggest an alternative to keep an animal confined in its own designated area if you want me to support this. There is no chance that I will support a bill that allows a dog (which are almost always the recipients of these collars) to roam free in a neighborhood without some method of restraint.
Do you suggest that the owner always be present and have a choke collar on the animal when outdoors?
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Jebslund » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:40 pm
Araraukar wrote:Teretstein wrote:Ambassador,
Please suggest an alternative to keep an animal confined in its own designated area if you want me to support this. There is no chance that I will support a bill that allows a dog (which are almost always the recipients of these collars) to roam free in a neighborhood without some method of restraint.
Do you suggest that the owner always be present and have a choke collar on the animal when outdoors?
"Have you never heard of fences, ambassador?" Linda asked with a raised eyebrow.
by Araraukar » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:43 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Jebslund » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:59 am
Araraukar wrote:"And you both exhibit appalling lack of knowledge of discipline and training. A well-trained dog will not jump fences, no matter their height. Unless you will happily install shock collars on misbehaving citizenry as well, your claim of it being harmless and effective lacks in believability."
OOC: Dogs are not popular pets in Araraukar, only working dogs (law enforcement, guarding, sheepdogs, guide dogs) basically, so in Linda's experience an unruly dog should be put down as it's unfit for service.
by Araraukar » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:28 pm
Jebslund wrote:"There is also the small matter of the animals not being born fully trained. There is an interim period, which, especially with animals confiscated from neglectful owners, the animals will still act like untrained animals. Even then, such devices are ideally the last line of defenses, not the first.".
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Liberimery » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:06 pm
Araraukar wrote:Anskerdank wrote:Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
The General Assembly,
Recognising the effect on an animal’s health
Acknowledges that they can be used to prevent animals from escaping
Noting that they can be abused easily
Hereby,
Defines an electric collar as a collar used to shock animals leaving boundaries
Bans the sale and use of all electric collars
OOC: The definition would make this not apply to many electric collars used in RL. (I haven't personally ever heard of that use for them.)
Also, the preamble talks about "them" without any reference of what it's talking about. The title does not count as part of the proposal text.
by The Land of the Ephyral » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:22 am
by The New Nordic Union » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:33 am
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:"But how else are we meant to control our slaves?" - Diplomatic Legate to the WA of the Freehold
by The Land of the Ephyral » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:18 am
The New Nordic Union wrote:Katrin slides towards the Diplomatic Legate a pamphlet which is titled 'General Assembly Resolution #23: Ban on Slavery and Trafficking'.
by Araraukar » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:55 pm
Liberimery wrote:OOC: I actually used it on my dog to stop her from escaping exactly once (because she stopped trying after that.)
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Liberimery » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:59 am
by Free Santa Rosa » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:48 am
by Kaltovar » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:11 pm
Anskerdank wrote:Category: Moral Decency
Anskerdank wrote:Recognising the effect on an animal’s health
Anskerdank wrote:Acknowledges that they can be used to prevent animals from escaping
Anskerdank wrote:Noting that they can be abused easily
Anskerdank wrote:Defines an electric collar as a collar used to shock animals leaving boundaries
Anskerdank wrote:Bans the sale and use of all electric collars
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