[WITHDRAWN] Resource Extraction from Uninhabited Bodies Act

[Imperium Anglorum]

Territorial claims in space create rivalrous resource claims, your answer of my question in the affirmative seems to mean that the proposal refuses a nation's ability to deny the extraction of the resources in their territory. Is that also intentional?

Changing the mass of some celestial object has no impact on the orbital characteristics (under the kinds of equations which are accurate enough to guide probes from Earth to Pluto without deviations of more than a few metres).

The only manner in which trajectory changes could be a problem is if mining or off-gassing caused by mining exerts an acceleration on the object such that those orbital characteristics change to make this scenario happen.

[Allied Sapients]

“It is unsafe, ambassador, to assume that any large mining company would not use its power and resources to steamroll over resistance. And if said small nation is not part of the WA, then they have no ability to go to the WA for assistance.”

[Aureumterra]

Territorial claims in space create rivalrous resource claims, your answer of my question in the affirmative seems to mean that the proposal refuses a nation's ability to deny the extraction of the resources in their territory. Is that also intentional?

“No ambassador, in fact, I updated that in my second draft, in which I specifically added “unclaimed” to the “PROTECTS” clause”

“It is unsafe, ambassador, to assume that any large mining company would not use its power and resources to steamroll over resistance. And if said small nation is not part of the WA, then they have no ability to go to the WA for assistance.”

“Again, if said nation is not part of the WA, it does not stop it from getting international help from neighboring nations.”

[Imperium Anglorum]

Territorial claims in space create rivalrous resource claims, your answer of my question in the affirmative seems to mean that the proposal refuses a nation's ability to deny the extraction of the resources in their territory. Is that also intentional?

“No ambassador, in fact, I updated that in my second draft, in which I specifically added “unclaimed” to the “PROTECTS” clause”

But nations can claim anything, in the same way the North Korea claims everything within 250 km of their borders (even though they have zero ability to enforce such claims).

[Aureumterra]

“No ambassador, in fact, I updated that in my second draft, in which I specifically added “unclaimed” to the “PROTECTS” clause”

But nations can claim anything, in the same way the North Korea claims everything within 250 km of their borders (even though they have zero ability to enforce such claims).

“I am unaware of a nation named “North Korea,” but you do bring up a valid point, I shall look into editing the clause to make sure claims are enforced.”

[Aureumterra]

OOC: Made 3rd Draft, edited PROTECTS clause to specify claimed but unenforced bodies as protected for extraction

[Imperium Anglorum]

But nations can claim anything, in the same way the North Korea claims everything within 250 km of their borders (even though they have zero ability to enforce such claims).

“I am unaware of a nation named “North Korea,” but you do bring up a valid point, I shall look into editing the clause to make sure claims are enforced.”

Read my signature, OOC unless marked otherwise. Presumably, you are familiar with, at least to some level, the hermit kingdom.

[Aureumterra]

“I am unaware of a nation named “North Korea,” but you do bring up a valid point, I shall look into editing the clause to make sure claims are enforced.”

Read my signature, OOC unless marked otherwise. Presumably, you are familiar with, at least to some level, the hermit kingdom.

OOC: Sorry, didn’t read it Anyways, I am familiar with DPRK, just didn’t realize you were talking OOC. Addressed the issue nevertheless.

[Aureumterra]

OOC: I’ll let this float around for a while to allow for any more suggestions or flaws to come forth

[Araraukar]

DEFINES, for the purpose of this resolution, uninhabitable bodies as any planets, asteroids, comets, planetesimals, or moons with the lack of a biosphere and not permanently inhabited by any life or unsusceptible to any likely terraforming process.

OOC: This definition is a weird, since "uninhabitable" suggests "you can't inhabit it", while the definition is a better fit for "uninhabited", or "not currently inhabited".

[Aureumterra]

DEFINES, for the purpose of this resolution, uninhabitable bodies as any planets, asteroids, comets, planetesimals, or moons with the lack of a biosphere and not permanently inhabited by any life or unsusceptible to any likely terraforming process.

OOC: This definition is a weird, since "uninhabitable" suggests "you can't inhabit it", while the definition is a better fit for "uninhabited", or "not currently inhabited".

OOC: I think planets that are habitable but have no life will go under the subject to terraforming category

[Kenmoria]

“The ‘allows’ clause doesn’t have any limitations, which looks a bit dangerous seeing as it allows a member nation to hold virtually any territory. It would be possible for a member nation which hasn’t signed any treaties to just claim all territory that hasn’t been inhabited yet, regardless of any veracity. I also suggest adding ‘or extant GA legislation’, since some resolutions might have limitations on what territory may be claimed.”

[Aureumterra]

“The ‘allows’ clause doesn’t have any limitations, which looks a bit dangerous seeing as it allows a member nation to hold virtually any territory. It would be possible for a member nation which hasn’t signed any treaties to just claim all territory that hasn’t been inhabited yet, regardless of any veracity. I also suggest adding ‘or extant GA legislation’, since some resolutions might have limitations on what territory may be claimed.”

“I agree, thank you for the suggestion ambassador. I will edit the clause to be more specific and prevent this from happening”

[Aureumterra]

OOC: Made 4th draft, I know “reasonably” is open to much interpretation, but I do think it will prevent nations from going crazy with claims

[BlackLight Covenant]

OOC: Made 4th draft, I know “reasonabley” is open to much interpretation, but I do think it will prevent nations from going crazy with claims

OOC: by "reasonably", do you mean a territorial claim within the capabilities of a nation to control said claim and enforce their rule over it?

[Kenmoria]

OOC: Made 4th draft, I know “reasonably” is open to much interpretation, but I do think it will prevent nations from going crazy with claims

(OOC: I recommend going a bit further with restrictions, but ‘reasonably’ itself would be good for avoiding, for example, the DPRK claiming the whole of Korea.)

[Aureumterra]

OOC: Made 4th draft, I know “reasonabley” is open to much interpretation, but I do think it will prevent nations from going crazy with claims

OOC: by "reasonably", do you mean a territorial claim within the capabilities of a nation to control said claim and enforce their rule over it?

OOC: That is open to interpretation, but the PROTECTS clause does exempt those who aren’t able to enforce it. Again, I can’t define reasonable territorial claims in a proposal about extracting resources without opening a whole new can of worms

[Araraukar]

OOC: I think planets that are habitable but have no life will go under the subject to terraforming category

OOC: You're missing the point. Anything is habitable if you bolt in a habitat onto it. You just need to change "uninhabitable" to "uninhabited" and you're good with the definition. It doesn't change the content of the definition, just brings it in line with how English words work normally.

I can’t define reasonable territorial claims in a proposal about extracting resources without opening a whole new can of worms

You're opening another can of worms by not defining them, though.

[Kardashev III Civilization]

There is no such thing as an "uninhabitable world". All worlds, with the proper input of energy and resources, can be made habitable. More concerning, however, is that this would put World Assembly backing behind what essentially constitutes conquest whenever a member state violates another state's sovereignty to access their resources.

[Aureumterra]

I can’t define reasonable territorial claims in a proposal about extracting resources without opening a whole new can of worms

You're opening another can of worms by not defining them, though.

OOC: As Kenmoria said, simply putting “reasonably” will deter super crazy territorial claims

OOC: I think planets that are habitable but have no life will go under the subject to terraforming category

OOC: You're missing the point. Anything is habitable if you bolt in a habitat onto it. You just need to change "uninhabitable" to "uninhabited" and you're good with the definition. It doesn't change the content of the definition, just brings it in line with how English words work normally.

OOC: That’s fair enough, I’ll edit that

There is no such thing as an "uninhabitable world". All worlds, with the proper input of energy and resources, can be made habitable. More concerning, however, is that this would put World Assembly backing behind what essentially constitutes conquest whenever a member state violates another state's sovereignty to access their resources.

OOC: I don’t think you read the OP, the terraforming concern has been addressed

[Aureumterra]

OOC: Made 5th draft, changed all instances of “uninhabitable” to “uninhabited”

[Aureumterra]

OOC: Planning to submit after a while, maybe later today or tomorrow

[Sierra Lyricalia]

OOC: What's your hurry? Best thing for a GA draft is to let it stew awhile.

[Aureumterra]

OOC: What's your hurry? Best thing for a GA draft is to let it stew awhile.

OOC: Right, nvm my previous post, I was thinking to let it stay longer anyways

[Aureumterra]

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