by Nohtasha » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:08 pm
by Kenmoria » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:12 pm
by Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:19 pm
by Nohtasha » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:22 pm
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"We support the concept, ambassador, but the submitted version is very light on detail and over-burdensome. As written this forces nations to provide hygiene supplies free of charge even to those who can afford them without batting an eye. There do need to be limits, even on unmistakable social goods. We oppose in its present form, and hope you'll take the time to withdraw, improve at length, and resubmit."
by Cosmopolitan borovan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:44 pm
by Nohtasha » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:20 pm
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:ooc: can you explain more on why this is necessary? like tampons are for women's maintencance of hygiene and that emergency contraceptives
by Grays Harbor » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:57 pm
by Taboooo » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:07 pm
by Kenmoria » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:32 am
by Araraukar » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:09 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Nohtasha » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:13 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: As a person currently having one in their body, the IUD (not UID) is normally a hormone-releasing item, and as such should be considered a medication rather than hygiene product. And certainly the insertion should be done by a medical professional trained to do so!
In other words, I'd suggest leaving medical procedures and medications (the morning-after pill probably should go in that category too) out of hygiene products things.
And anyone saying that tampons or pads aren't essential producys, should be told to manufacture their own toilet paper and be given a whole Douglas fir tree to start from. Just saying...
Though, if we're talking about hygiene products that are considered essential by anyone needing to deal with them, how about diapers? Both for babies and elderly (and of course anyone else who needs them).
by Bears Armed » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:17 am
by Nohtasha » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:20 am
Bears Armed wrote:OOC: If we're talking about hygiene products rather than medical products & procedures, maybe Social Justice rather than Healthcare?
by Quantipapa » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:14 am
by Jamariche » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:17 am
by Quantipapa » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:19 am
Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.
We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.
by Jamariche » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:25 am
Quantipapa wrote:Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.
We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.
Yes, so instead of forcing Nations to buy and supply stuff. Just pass a resolution to ensure prices are fair.
by Nohtasha » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:28 am
Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.
We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.
by Jamariche » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:18 pm
Nohtasha wrote:Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.
We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.
The government would not be the entity supplying the products at hand. An organization under supervision of the Government to regulate standards would instead be the productive facility.
by Wallenburg » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 pm
by Quantipapa » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:56 am
Wallenburg wrote:Trevanyika raises her eyebrow at the proposal text. "This is a joke, yes? You haven't actually submitted this for consideration?"
by Bears Armed » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:48 am
Quantipapa wrote:If you want a lighter approach to this just have a resolution protecting these products from being taxed. Basically ban the pink tax.
by Kenmoria » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:40 am
Wallenburg wrote:Trevanyika raises her eyebrow at the proposal text. "This is a joke, yes? You haven't actually submitted this for consideration?"
by Quantipapa » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:26 am
Bears Armed wrote:Quantipapa wrote:If you want a lighter approach to this just have a resolution protecting these products from being taxed. Basically ban the pink tax.
OOC; That would be illegal for Contradiction, because of a clause in GA Resolution #17 which blocks the GA from meddling in nations' domestic taxation.
by Bears Armed » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:35 am
Quantipapa wrote:Bears Armed wrote:
OOC; That would be illegal for Contradiction, because of a clause in GA Resolution #17 which blocks the GA from meddling in nations' domestic taxation.
Not true.
8. Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices;
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