Resolution protecting life from conception to natural death

[The New California Republic]

Look at this draft resolution, and tell me what you guys think:

Protecting Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting life from conception to natural death

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible, this resolution hereby condemns euthanasia in the strongest terms possible,

Therefore:

1. This resolution hereby protects life from conception to natural death,
2. This resolution hereby defines life to start from the moment of conception,
3. This resolution hereby prohibit abortion in all states nations,
4. This resolution prohibit abortion in all cases,
5. This resolution also bans euthanasia in all cases,

OOC: This gives no arguments for banning euthanasia or abortion, so what is the point of banning either?

[Xmara]

No argument, contradicts previously passed resolutions. No support.

[Tzorsland]

1. This resolution hereby protects life from conception to natural death,

OOC: Effectively does nothing

This is a statement that needs to be emphasized again and again. From a classical resolution writing perspective a resolution has to do something. But from a practical resolution perspective a resolution needs to do something in law. "Protecting life" isn't really an action in law. Do we hire an infinite amount of policemen to protect life from potential killers? Do we monitor all people in case they slip and fall?

Protecting life from conception to natural death is a concept, not something actionable in law. Law can be enacted to accomplish this concept, in various forms and degrees and so can resolutions, but not completely.

Writing the minority report: I really think that the concept of this resolution can be, implemented in resolutions in such a way as to not be in conflict with existing resolutions. It's important to note that existing WA resolutions do not give third parties the right to abort someone else's baby. In fact, On Abortion states, "may only be carried out with the informed consent of the patient without coercion" and mentions provisions for a medical legal guardian in the case "the patient is incapacitated and unable to make their wishes known." Such a restriction would reduce the resolution considerably but would still allow the abortion resolutions since the unborn child generally can't make their wishes known and therefore it falls to the mother to make that decision, which is required as a result of "On Abortion."

Effectively speaking, such a resolution would penalize in law the killing of anyone from conception to natural death without the consent of that person or that person's "legal medical guardian." So if a woman wants to have an abortion it would be legal but if someone slips an abortifacient to a pregnant woman who wants to give birth, that person should be charged for premeditated murder of that unborn. Likewise it would also outlaw involuntary euthanasia (as opposed to voluntary and non voluntary) since the former has the person in question in sound mind and the later has a legal guardian making the decision.

[Carmine]

If you're gonna pick this hill to die on, at least do it without spamming up the site.

This is a contradictory and unethical draft. I agree that this is just coming across as spam.

[Pro Life-2017]

Check out the new draft.

[The Islands of Versilia]

“Illegal, and opposed,” states the Versilian ambassador. “Abortion and regulating of births is a legal practice and one enforced by the state in order to ensure genetic purity. We prevent the birth of or modify the unborn in order to prevent the suffering they would endure with a perceived genetic illness, mental illness or physical disability. Opposed.”

[Attempted Socialism]

Check out the new draft.

OOC: You haven't taken ANY feedback into consideration. It's still an illegal, poor draft that you should forget all about until you have failed to repeal the (at least) two resolutions that makes this resolution illegal.

[Willania Imperium]

Check out the new draft.

OOC: It's still illegal and poorly argued. You can't write legislation in a repeal, and you list no arguments that make your proposal even worth a percentage of a penny! This is a fool's journey and should be abandoned before the last shreds of respect sheds.

[Alpha Cassiopeiae]

Aide, to Albinus: ... "and here is an update to a proposal by Pro-Life 20"-
Albinus, to aide: "Throw it out."
"Sir?"
"Not worth the time to even skim."

OOC: You've completely eradicated your political capital with the Assembly. Do yourself a favour and just stop. Try to participate in a few debates and really pay attention to the rules and culture of the forum, and try to build back up some respect, before you try again. This continuing tirade is pointless.

[Xmara]

Check out the new draft.

And yet your resolution is still illegal.

[Oresland]

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,

Richards read this line over and over and says: "Oh no, watch out, the resolution will condemn abortion. As if that's going to do anything. From a pro-life person to a pro-life nation, give it up. Your proposal isn't going anywhere and you refuse to listen to feedback. And, as if it's even needed, I'll be, sadly and gladly, opposed to this." Richards stands up and leaves the room in disappointment.

[Pro Life-2017]

Vote for it at this link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1518441596

[Araraukar]

Vote for it at this link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1518441596

OOC: You know this is illegal for Contradiction, right? It was pointed out to you ages ago.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: This has been marked as Illegal.

[Imperium Anglorum]

OOC: You know this is illegal for Contradiction, right? It was pointed out to you ages ago.

"Religion is, if anything, obstinate" – CGP Grey

[Sierra Lyricalia]

All OOC.

Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting unborn human life from conception to natural death

Most people just use the summary text that the game generates automatically, but OK.

Category: Health
Strength: Significant

No. Health has Areas of Effect. You submitted this under Health/Bioethics; putting these headers in the resolution text does not give you the ability to dream up your own category system. Illegal.

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Branding. Illegal.

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,

OK...

2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death,

How, exactly? By what means? What effect does this have on member states? You correctly note that this is preambulatory, but it's written as though it's some kind of operative clause. It'd be best to restate this.

Therefore:

3. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception,
4. This resolution hereby prohibits abortion in all nations,
5. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases,

Contradictions galore, all many of which have been previously pointed out to you. To your credit you have submitted repeals of some of the resolutions which block these provisions, but unless and until the repeals pass, this is irredeemably illegal.

[The Unfounded]

"Wow... I've never seen a bonfire in the actual chamber before. This place IS fun!"

[Kenmoria]

"Wow... I've never seen a bonfire in the actual chamber before. This place IS fun!"

"I personally find the practice rather fruitlesss. Why burn paper when you could use I think for the toilet? This draft is one such proposal, the premise is simply unacceptable and the way it is carried out contradicts numerous resolutions."

[Pro Life-2017]

Check out the new draft.

[This City of Ours]

OOC: Just as illegal, just as fruitless. Also your username is seriously out of date by now.

[NeoOasis]

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible, because abortion kills an unborn children, which has been proven by science,
2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death, by banning all forms of abortion,

1. What has been proven by science? That abortion "kills" something? What does this even mean... What are the strongest terms possible? How will this enforced?

2. What forms of abortion are there? What about miscarriage? What about death of the mother? Are we going to ban women from dying while pregnant? Why is this in the preamble anyway?

3. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception, based off well established and well proven science,
4. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases

3. Science has not established life starts the moment a sperm hits an egg. Nothing here is proven. In fact I imagine that other countries might have come to other conclusions with their own scientists.

4. What if the baby is literally a spawn of satan that will literally end all life as we know? What if the fetus is alreayd unviable, and will only kill the mother if carried to term?

This new update is as bad as the necromancy that has been caste upon this thread.

EDIT: Just noticed that some nations that posted on this proposal are no longer with us.

[Kiravian WA Mission]

"Although we sympathise with the intent of this resolution, the august Government of the Kiravian WA Mission laments that even a well-written and painstakingly rule-compliant resolution seeking to curtail abortion would stand a snowball's chance in hell of passing."

[Sierra Lyricalia]

OOC: As others have pointed out, waiting months before editing again did not magically make the Contradiction rule evaporate. Still illegal.

[The New California Republic]

OOC: As others have pointed out, waiting months before editing again did not magically make the Contradiction rule evaporate. Still illegal.

OOC: It just shows that we can never assume something is dead if it hasn't moved or made a noise for a long time.

The same flaws in the draft remain, even months later.