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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Der Teutoniker » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:04 pm

Wutaco wrote:NOTICING that at 16 most people have political views and it can be frustrating to have to wait to vote until there 18.


The Emperor of Der Teutoniker, a surly Dwarf stands, takes a swig of dark ale, and says: "I notice that waiting for anything can be frustrating, even when I have views about that something, this is no reason to lower the voting age. Indeed, should we do this, those opinionated, frustrated 15 year olds would merely be pining for votes, then the 14 year olds." His majesty makes it clear that he is against such a fruitless change of policy.
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Der Teutoniker » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:06 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
PS - Mae na gofyn ata at bostio 'n grwn i mewn 'r Saesneg dafodiaith


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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Gynocracy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:08 pm

Some of it looks like Welsh.
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:38 pm

Gynocracy wrote:Some of it looks like Welsh.


it is. good call. ;)
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Gynocracy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:43 pm

Diolch (one of the few Welsh words I know) - it means 'thanks,' by the way.
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Unibot » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:12 pm

From NSwiki....
Unibot infamously has one of lowest life expectancies in the world, fluctuating from an average of 10-14 Julian years of age since the recent deindustrialization incident which left many living in caves, and treating most common ailments with primal therapy.


IC: Zhilidgo had been asked earlier by the President of Unibot for two things, the first thing was the President needed a scheme to end democracy silently in Unibot, the other request was that Zhilidgo bring Sherbet Lemon ice cream (a banned substance in Unibot) back with him when he visits Parliament next month.

After reading this proposal it dawned on him... "By jose I have it!" .... "get a young, 16 year old photocopy boy to smuggle the ice cream, perfect, they're not liable for their actions anyways. Now to solve that whole 'democratic problem' thingy..."

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Lizardiar » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:18 pm

What?! How can we lower the voting age? At 18 most people don't really have an idea of politics, at 16 most have no idea, It's just what 'sounds cool' at that age. Most teens at that age are more interested in the oppisite sex more than the local mayor or senator.
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bears Armed » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:56 am

Gynocracy wrote:Diolch (one of the few Welsh words I know) - it means 'thanks,' by the way.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Consaria » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:59 am

If they pay taxes. Yes
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Flibbleites » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:50 am

King Zhaoxiang of Qin wrote:
Gynocracy wrote:The Queendom of Gynocracy already allows voting at the age of 12 so we support this proposal.

By the way, 'lowing' is what cattle do, on a technical point.


I thought they went "moo"

They do, "lowing" is an alternate term for that act.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Linux and the X » Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:24 pm

My nation cannot comply with this proposal. It would be a logical impossibility to lower something from zero to sixteen.
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Veilyonia » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:13 pm

Grovedale14 wrote:Hey could I just say that I am 16 and would love to vote and I have NO Friends who are druggies.
Its a stereotype. Get over it. I think its a better proposal then whatever the one now is is about all I can get from reading it is that coins are metal.


The current resolution at vote doesn't try to change something that isn't there.

Grovedale14 wrote:Yes I wrote the proposal


So exactly what is going on here? Are you Wutaco's alt or did you allow him to submit it? Or is something entirely different going on?
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Grovedale14 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:19 am

I wrote it but I didnt have enough endorsments

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Howardia Commonwealth » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:07 pm

Howardia posts no official limit or requirement on age for political participation within the Nation for general affairs, though electable officials are required, at minimum, to meet the age requirements necessary to transact international business, which has been declared as 18 years. General internal affairs are subject to democratic polling and are open to all ages. The democratic election of new leadership is rare in Howardia; but under the circumstances that such does take place, voter minimum age stands at 18 years. Howardia respects the intent and motive of this resolution, while agreeing that it is not suitable for adoption by the WA.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Malikov » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:12 pm

How would dictatorships have a voting age, if they don't vote in the first place?
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bears Armed » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:16 am

What about nations whose constitutions specify that minimum ages for voting age can only be set locally, within each federal or confederal subdivision of the larger country as a whole, rather than by the national government?
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bythinia-Byzantium » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:44 pm

Again, what is the point? There are no elections in my kingdom. I don't see any benefit to this.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bythinia-Byzantium » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:46 pm

Lizardiar wrote:What?! How can we lower the voting age? At 18 most people don't really have an idea of politics, at 16 most have no idea, It's just what 'sounds cool' at that age. Most teens at that age are more interested in the oppisite sex more than the local mayor or senator.


Or the same sex, if there are like a certain young prince I used to know. LOL.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Lizardiar » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:49 pm

Bythinia-Byzantium wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:What?! How can we lower the voting age? At 18 most people don't really have an idea of politics, at 16 most have no idea, It's just what 'sounds cool' at that age. Most teens at that age are more interested in the oppisite sex more than the local mayor or senator.


Or the same sex, if there are like a certain young prince I used to know. LOL.


ooc: :shock: O...K......*Backs away*
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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bythinia-Byzantium » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:54 pm

Malikov wrote:How would dictatorships have a voting age, if they don't vote in the first place?


Or monarchies like mine, as I said. Just my point exactly.

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Re: Proposal: Lowing the voting age to 16

Postby Bythinia-Byzantium » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 pm

Lizardiar wrote:
Bythinia-Byzantium wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:What?! How can we lower the voting age? At 18 most people don't really have an idea of politics, at 16 most have no idea, It's just what 'sounds cool' at that age. Most teens at that age are more interested in the oppisite sex more than the local mayor or senator.


Or the same sex, if there are like a certain young prince I used to know. LOL.


ooc: :shock: O...K......*Backs away*


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