[Draft] World Assembly Agreement on Labor

[Imperium Anglorum]

"Such as protecting the jobs of citizens, to whom a government owes its first duty."

I don't find reductions of national welfare necessitated in trade restrictions compelling.

[Fauxia]

"Such as protecting the jobs of citizens, to whom a government owes its first duty."

I don't find reductions of national welfare necessitated in trade restrictions compelling.

"Elsie, what the hell does that have to do with anything?"

[Separatist Peoples]

"Such as protecting the jobs of citizens, to whom a government owes its first duty."

I don't find reductions of national welfare necessitated in trade restrictions compelling.

"Bully for us, you don't have to."

[Imperium Anglorum]

They are not compelling practical purposes and do not count. In fact, restricting labour movement based on nationality is also not a compelling practical purpose. There are no compelling practical purposes for protectionism. Protectionism also discriminates against foreign merchants, and therefore, is prohibited by CoCR.

By the way, I'd like to invite you to the Neoliberal international. Our new motto: 'Permanent neoliberalism'.

[Separatist Peoples]

They are not compelling practical purposes and do not count. In fact, restricting labour movement based on nationality is also not a compelling practical purpose. There are no compelling practical purposes for protectionism. Protectionism also discriminates against foreign merchants, and therefore, is prohibited by CoCR.

By the way, I'd like to invite you to the Neoliberal international. Our new motto: 'Permanent neoliberalism'.

"There are such compelling practical purposes to us. It is less protection of industry as control of immigration and refusal to expand our welfare system to include foreign migrants hired on the cheap. It may not be compelling to you, but it is compelling to us. We don't want your foreigners unless there are no C.D.S.P. citizens who can do the job. Our citizens come first. That is the entire point of a national government: to promote the interests of it's own citizens.

"As this is a compelling practical purpose, we shall continue to impose such restrictions."

[Bears Armed]

"Compelling practical purposes. There are compelling practical purposes to so discriminate."

"Such as protecting the jobs of citizens, to whom a government owes its first duty."

"Such as protecting the jobs of politicians, who'd be voted out of office if they didn't do so..."

^_^

Urrna Silvertrees,
Apprentice Voice, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

[Fauxia]

"Such as protecting the jobs of citizens, to whom a government owes its first duty."

"Such as protecting the jobs of politicians, who'd be voted out of office if they didn't do so..."

^_^

Urrna Silvertrees,
Apprentice Voice, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

"What?"

[States of Glory WA Office]

Fairburn: Are our concerns going to be addressed or is everyone going to pretend once again that they have a PhD and Nobel Prize in economics?

[Fauxia]

Fairburn: Are our concerns going to be addressed or is everyone going to pretend once again that they have a PhD and Nobel Prize in economics?

"A what prize?"

[Laeral]

OOC: I support this resolution and the greater goal of establishing a common market among all WA member states, although getting this passed will be difficult. If I may ask, who did you collaborate with to create this resolution?

[Fauxia]

OOC: I support this resolution and the greater goal of establishing a common market among all WA member states, although getting this passed will be difficult. If I may ask, who did you collaborate with to create this resolution?

OOC: Presumably, only people who commented on this thread. No co-author is listed.

I am greatly annoyed by your suggestion of a WA common market though. It's also illegal for metagaming reasons.

[Laeral]

OOC: I support this resolution and the greater goal of establishing a common market among all WA member states, although getting this passed will be difficult. If I may ask, who did you collaborate with to create this resolution?

OOC: Presumably, only people who commented on this thread. No co-author is listed.

I am greatly annoyed by your suggestion of a WA common market though. It's also illegal for metagaming reasons.

That proposal 1. predated my interest in this topic, which others I've planned this with can confirm,

(Emphasis and bolding mine).

It is a shame that you are annoyed by the idea. However, I would like an explanation of this stated 'illegality' as merely stating your distaste for an opinion of mine and then failing to supply proof of alleged illegality is unproductive.

[Fauxia]

OOC: Presumably, only people who commented on this thread. No co-author is listed.

I am greatly annoyed by your suggestion of a WA common market though. It's also illegal for metagaming reasons.

That proposal 1. predated my interest in this topic, which others I've planned this with can confirm,

(Emphasis and bolding mine).

It is a shame that you are annoyed by the idea. However, I would like an explanation of this stated 'illegality' as merely stating your distaste for an opinion of mine and then failing to supply proof of alleged illegality is unproductive.

It's not illegal as far as I know, I was having an economics vocabulary brain freeze.

[Sciongrad]

OOC: Bringing this one back, too.

[Jarish Inyo]

Opposed. We will not open our boarders or welfare system to foreigners. We do not need, want or require foreign workers as we require everyone on our welfare system to work and/or get training to receive welfare.

[Imperium Anglorum]

A template for all of you:

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Opposed. We will not {descriptor of the proposal}. {other non sequitur elements that do not address the proposal}

[Christian Democrats]

While favoring free markets in general, we cannot throw our support behind this proposal in good conscience. A national government has a duty to promote the common good of its citizens; and, in a significant number of cases, the unrestrained immigration of ordinary laborers could harm such a common good by suppressing the wages of low-skilled, low-income citizens. It's simple supply and demand:

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In short, these citizens would become even poorer and, by circumstances, could eventually be forced to emigrate themselves.

We acknowledge that this proposal would, of course, increase overall wealth; but wealth is not the only goal nor should it be the primary goal of a political community. "Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions" (CCC 2241). One factor that should be considered in the formulation of reasonable immigration regulations, we believe, is the effect of mass immigration on the welfare of the nation's poorest members.

We reiterate our opposition to this proposal on the grounds of humanitarianism, social justice, and income inequality.

[Wallenburg]

"I am afraid I cannot support the draft as it is currently written. Wallenburg's economic and border control interests are of too great priority to allow such mandates to go into effect."

"These concerns remain unaltered."

[Kenmoria]

"Clause 2 seems highly disagreeable to me as it lacks reasonable exceptions, namely extradition and deportion for serious crimes, both of which could occur with someone seeking employment or employed. Furthermore, I believe employers have a right to hire people only speaking the language of commerce in their nation, contrary to clause 3."

[United Massachusetts]

"Our Delegation issues its opposition on the same grounds so eloquently expressed by the Christian Democratic mission."

[Sciongrad]

"Our Delegation issues its opposition on the same grounds so eloquently expressed by the Christian Democratic mission."

"Though I've already explained why the concerns of his Excellency of Christian Democrats are baseless, I think the brand of nationalistic, every-country-for-itself style of social justice he's advocated is inconsistent with the values espoused numerous times by this assembly. It is not christian to only care about the poor in one's own country."

[Sciongrad]

"Clause 2 seems highly disagreeable to me as it lacks reasonable exceptions, namely extradition and deportion for serious crimes, both of which could occur with someone seeking employment or employed. Furthermore, I believe employers have a right to hire people only speaking the language of commerce in their nation, contrary to clause 3."

"Agreed on the first point. I'll consider an addition. I'm not convinced on the second point. Why is that necessary if language proficiency is not required for success in one's job?"

OOC: Sorry for the double post.

[United Massachusetts]

"Our Delegation issues its opposition on the same grounds so eloquently expressed by the Christian Democratic mission."

"Though I've already explained why the concerns of his Excellency of Christian Democrats are baseless, I think the brand of nationalistic, every-country-for-itself style of social justice he's advocated is inconsistent with the values espoused numerous times by this assembly. It is not christian to only care about the poor in one's own country."

"It certainly isn't, and you surely know that our Delegation has been far more progressive historically than that of the Christian Democrats. Having said that, it is our opinion that certain countries do not have the mechanisms to deal with widespread immigration, and ought to be able to limit it in reflection of that fact."

[Imperium Anglorum]

ELSIE MORTIMER WELLESLEY: (mockingly) "Oh, it wouldn't be convenient for us to deal with immigration, so go die in your hovels like a good boy."

[Sierra Lyricalia]

"So long as the law is enforced equally upon immigrants and citizens alike, and the former are not illegally exploited to the tune of reduced salaries, shittier benefits, fear of the police, and other nasty relics of borderline fascist states, immigration is a self-regulating market affair. Where opportunities are reduced, fewer immigrants will seek entry and employment. There is simply no rational reason to oppose this law. Only xenophobia masked in naked self-interest."