Scorinators (OOC Discussion)

[Melki]

One tip, Babbage: Can you make Miscellenator an app (ar at least a javascript .JAR) instead of OpenOffice and excel? It could support a playoff mode. That could be a vast improvement.

[Sarzonia]

The best proof that NSFS 3.0 is easy is that even I figured out, and on my first try to boot! I screamed in jubilation when it did! The old NSFS gave me headache as soon as I wanted to try.

Good work, though you seemed to handle that WLC rather smoothly. Was that an Excel-based scorinator?

[Nethertopia]

The best proof that NSFS 3.0 is easy is that even I figured out, and on my first try to boot! I screamed in jubilation when it did! The old NSFS gave me headache as soon as I wanted to try.

Good work, though you seemed to handle that WLC rather smoothly. Was that an Excel-based scorinator?

Voodoo dice, definitely

[Cassadaigua]

The best proof that NSFS 3.0 is easy is that even I figured out, and on my first try to boot! I screamed in jubilation when it did! The old NSFS gave me headache as soon as I wanted to try.

Good work, though you seemed to handle that WLC rather smoothly. Was that an Excel-based scorinator?

Yes! Excel I can get, all the XML that NSFS 2.7 had was beyond me. I tried a couple times and gave up. 3.0 is very straightforward. Love it!

[The Babbage Islands]

One tip, Babbage: Can you make Miscellenator an app (ar at least a javascript .JAR) instead of OpenOffice and excel? It could support a playoff mode. That could be a vast improvement.

If I ever get round to learning Java I might. I took my last programming class in 1978.

[Sarzonia]

One tip, Babbage: Can you make Miscellenator an app (ar at least a javascript .JAR) instead of OpenOffice and excel? It could support a playoff mode. That could be a vast improvement.

If I ever get round to learning Java I might. I took my last programming class in 1978.

Dude, I started kindergarten in 1978.

[Qazox]

One tip, Babbage: Can you make Miscellenator an app (ar at least a javascript .JAR) instead of OpenOffice and excel? It could support a playoff mode. That could be a vast improvement.

If I ever get round to learning Java I might. I took my last programming class in 1978.

Dude, I started kindergarten in 1978.

Yipes! I learned to walk in 1978...

[Novikov]

One tip, Babbage: Can you make Miscellenator an app (ar at least a javascript .JAR) instead of OpenOffice and excel? It could support a playoff mode. That could be a vast improvement.

If I ever get round to learning Java I might. I took my last programming class in 1978.

Dude, I started kindergarten in 1978.

Yipes! I learned to walk in 1978...

I wouldn't be born for another nine years in 1978...

[Toiletdonia]

I at the minute am working on an excel soccer scoreinator. But I am struggling to come up with a code for scores. Before you say "OMG that is so easy!" I can't do it so high rank doesn't smash it to bits and raise the scores to like a trillion or something. I have tried using ZWCOS codes and I have tried using another code that I was going to use for the first senior cup. But still no joy. Can anyone help?

[Starblaydia]

I've been trying to run demonstration rounds of the MSMT to get myself into the habit of scorinating using NSFS 3.0.

There's one problem I continually have. I can scorinate the first round without a problem, I go and save and whatnot. However, when I try to resume the Cup with the next round, my file says "Semifinals" but doesn't have scoring outputs and teams.

What could I be doing wrong?

I've just tried this, and the same thing is happening to me. When I hit 'Continue Cup in Progress' (this is because the Cup I saved is in .nsfskp format, which 'Load Saved Cup' doesn't want to load, a the window that opens up contains the teams I put in, and the Round, but the window title is 'Create League System'. Then, with almost no options, I hit 'Scorinate' and get a blank results window.

Am I being thick or is something wrong there?

[Sarzonia]

For single elimination cups such as the Mike Sarzo Memorial Trophy, it's not that big a deal. But I'd think that handling a bigger cup (such as the DBC or Nethers' cup) would cause quite a few problems.

[Starblaydia]

For single elimination cups such as the Mike Sarzo Memorial Trophy, it's not that big a deal. But I'd think that handling a bigger cup (such as the DBC or Nethers' cup) would cause quite a few problems.

For knockouts which are a Round of 16, Quarter, Semi and Finals, it shouldn't be too much trouble at all (no more than 16 teams need entering at any one time in these anyway, which is no real problem), but I just get the feeling either me or NSFS is DOIN IT RONG!

[Somewhereistonia]

For single elimination cups such as the Mike Sarzo Memorial Trophy, it's not that big a deal. But I'd think that handling a bigger cup (such as the DBC or Nethers' cup) would cause quite a few problems.

For knockouts which are a Round of 16, Quarter, Semi and Finals, it shouldn't be too much trouble at all (no more than 16 teams need entering at any one time in these anyway, which is no real problem), but I just get the feeling either me or NSFS is DOIN IT RONG!

I too had this problem with the knockout rounds of the Copa Rushmori; even so, manually setting it up each time is easier than setting up an xml file in the previous NSFS.

[Sarzonia]

Well, I was worried that it might somehow be me, but if you're having the same problem I am, it's obvious that something else is at work.

[Melki]

How about a Soccer mode on Miscellanator 1.09? That would be great.

[Elemanu]

Hurling Scorinator

[Tarrentum]

Can I just say that, once again, this should be stickied with the utmost haste?

[Liventia]

I honestly don't see any such need.

[Tarrentum]

It's more for a fact that this is a great resource for anyone new to NS Sports to understand what a scorinator is. Sure the stickies there now talk about them but this goes in-depth on how to handle situations and the mechanics of the major scorinators. Plus, it's a great way to get your question answered promptly becuase it's not buried in the main sticky at the top.

[Liventia]

I don't see why this thread should be stickied over anything else, though. The general questions thread works fine, from there newbies can be directed here.

[Melki]

How about a Soccer mode on Miscellanator 1.09? That would be great.

[Sorthern Northland]

Melki, why? There's at least two other scorinators readily available that do association football. As far as I understand the intention behind miscellanator is to provide a scorinator for more niche sports.

[The Fanboyists]

Because TBI has other things that need attending to, I was wondering if someone would be up for working on a jousting scorinator for Microsoft Excel with me, so that I might try it out for an upcoming tournament I intend on attempting. Naturally, a solution I'd prefer is a modification for Miscellenator, but right now the intention would be for a stop-gap scorinator.

The basics would be under what I'll call the "Romanid Code of Tourney", or the basic (IC) Allamunnic rules for the joust.

The main values and rules are as follows, insofar as I can think of what would be relevant to scorinating rather than straight-up RP.

1) Each club/team will have three entrants on it. Each team is referred to as a side.

2) Each entrant will be assigned a position in the side (lead, second, and third), and they will meet with their opposite number on the opposing side.

3) Each match-up of entrants will receive six lances to take running passes at one another. Points are assigned for the following:

- 7 Points for the unhorsing of an opponent (least likely). Being unhorsed also immediately ends the match-up.
- 2 points for a shattered lance.
- 1 point for a broken lance. (most likely)

4) Each match-up will recieve their six passes at one another, except if one is unhorsed, in which case they are immediately replaced by their second, then by the third.

5) When one or both sides run out of entrants, the team with the most points over-all is the winner.

6) Skill modifiers, as I would think of now, would be by entrant (so three to a team) averaging to 3 (think on the method used for Olympic skill modifiers) for the over all side, so, for instance, with a modifier set of 1, 3, and 5. The higher the skill modifier, the more likely the higher point-value events would be (to modify existing odds for them, with the lowest liklihood being for unhorsing, with a significantly higher chance of shattered lance, and the highest liklihood of a broken lance.

This is something that I've wanted to do since I came onto NS Sports, and now that TBI has encouraged me with the user-friendliness of Miscellenator and (Veph?) with NSFS 3.0, this is something I'd like to try as soon as possible, or at least test it out.

So, anyone up for it? And please let me know if there's any other relevant information here that would help with creating such a scorinator.

[Toiletdonia]

Because TBI has other things that need attending to, I was wondering if someone would be up for working on a jousting scorinator for Microsoft Excel with me, so that I might try it out for an upcoming tournament I intend on attempting. Naturally, a solution I'd prefer is a modification for Miscellenator, but right now the intention would be for a stop-gap scorinator.

The basics would be under what I'll call the "Romanid Code of Tourney", or the basic (IC) Allamunnic rules for the joust.

The main values and rules are as follows, insofar as I can think of what would be relevant to scorinating rather than straight-up RP.

1) Each club/team will have three entrants on it. Each team is referred to as a side.

2) Each entrant will be assigned a position in the side (lead, second, and third), and they will meet with their opposite number on the opposing side.

3) Each match-up of entrants will receive six lances to take running passes at one another. Points are assigned for the following:

- 7 Points for the unhorsing of an opponent (least likely). Being unhorsed also immediately ends the match-up.
- 2 points for a shattered lance.
- 1 point for a broken lance. (most likely)

4) Each match-up will recieve their six passes at one another, except if one is unhorsed, in which case they are immediately replaced by their second, then by the third.

5) When one or both sides run out of entrants, the team with the most points over-all is the winner.

6) Skill modifiers, as I would think of now, would be by entrant (so three to a team) averaging to 3 (think on the method used for Olympic skill modifiers) for the over all side, so, for instance, with a modifier set of 1, 3, and 5. The higher the skill modifier, the more likely the higher point-value events would be (to modify existing odds for them, with the lowest liklihood being for unhorsing, with a significantly higher chance of shattered lance, and the highest liklihood of a broken lance.

This is something that I've wanted to do since I came onto NS Sports, and now that TBI has encouraged me with the user-friendliness of Miscellenator and (Veph?) with NSFS 3.0, this is something I'd like to try as soon as possible, or at least test it out.

So, anyone up for it? And please let me know if there's any other relevant information here that would help with creating such a scorinator.

I would give you hand in developing this.

[The Fanboyists]

It would be a pleasure, TD, but I do have a question:

Are you any good at generating Random-Number Generators for Excel, or will we need a third person? That's my main concern; I'm not good with formulas and such, personality.