I don't know if we should count it as scorination in all honesty. I remember using that once for a test and it just felt basic/cramped.
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by Kita-Hinode » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:44 pm
by Free Republics » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:38 pm
by Joshenia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:26 pm
Free Republics wrote:While its perfectly fine to use that leaguesimulator.eu site or FM or FIFA or even just make up scores for a domestic league, they probably shouldn't be used for international tournaments.
by Kita-Hinode » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:08 pm
Joshenia wrote:Free Republics wrote:While its perfectly fine to use that leaguesimulator.eu site or FM or FIFA or even just make up scores for a domestic league, they probably shouldn't be used for international tournaments.
FM is a pretty advanced football simulator you know. FiFA is no way a simulator
by Wuriya » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:24 pm
by Squornshelan Remnant States » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:09 pm
Listel wrote:So probbaly really nooby question but I have the sport I want open and what do I do now?
by Kita-Hinode » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:28 pm
Wuriya wrote:Hello, Does tutorial books for use scorinator program?
by 95X » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:42 pm
Nation not my RL views, etc.
Poe's Law. Nonpartisan.
by Free Republics » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:32 pm
95X wrote:Saw something that tangentially relates to scorinators and thought I'd share.
A Pew Research study states the percentage of adults in the United States that own and use a smartphone exceed those who use a desktop or laptop computer: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... of-growth/
Additional data says 20 percent of the US Adult population uses only a phone to access the internet: http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ (Scroll down to "Smartphone dependency over time")
Obviously, a survey of those 18-plus in only one country isn't necessarily indicative of NS users. But I will mention that the community-accepted scorinators we do have (namely, xkoranate and NSFS) were programmed by members of NS Sports that had the talent and inclination to do so.
by North Quadana » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:55 pm
by Tinhampton » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:11 pm
North Quadana wrote:So, I tried to add the SGIS formula to the formulas on xkoronate, but I can't seem to find out how to do that. Can someone please help me?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<sport version="0.3">
<name>Association football—SGIS formula</name>
<discipline>Association football</discipline>
<event>SGIS formula</event>
<scorinator /> <!-- only one scorinator is needed for this event -->
<paradigm>sqis</paradigm>
<paradigmOptions>
<double type="constantA">0.11</double>
<double type="constantB">0.08</double>
<double type="homeAdvantage">1.223333333333</double>
<double type="homeAdvantageGG">0.123333333333</double>
<int type="attacks">12</int>
<double type="etAttackCoeff">0.293333333333</double>
<int type="shootoutLength">5</int>
<double type="goldenGoalProb">0.4</double>
<double type="shootoutProb">0.65</double>
<int type="pointValues">1</int>
<double type="attackCoeffs">1</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleCoeffA">2.0000000000000</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleCoeffB">1.2000000000000</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleExponent">-0.23705203296846</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleOffset">0.102435335725325</double>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalsFor">GF</string>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalsAgainst">GA</string>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalDifference">GD</string>
<list type="tiebreakers">
<string>extratime</string>
<string>shootout</string>
</list>
<list type="tiebreakerNames">
<string>AET</string>
<string>pen.</string>
</list>
</paradigmOptions>
<!-- the style modifier distribution is a bit wonky because negative modifiers are less likely to take effect -->
<dataPoints name="style">
<dataPoint pos="0">-3</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.4">-1</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.5">0</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.65">0</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="1">3</dataPoint>
</dataPoints>
</sport>
by North Quadana » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Tinhampton wrote:North Quadana wrote:So, I tried to add the SGIS formula to the formulas on xkoronate, but I can't seem to find out how to do that. Can someone please help me?
Yeah, I had this exact same problem last year. Does the below code, my end result after a couple of hours of publically wondering at the time, work?
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<sport version="0.3">
<name>Association football—SGIS formula</name>
<discipline>Association football</discipline>
<event>SGIS formula</event>
<scorinator /> <!-- only one scorinator is needed for this event -->
<paradigm>sqis</paradigm>
<paradigmOptions>
<double type="constantA">0.11</double>
<double type="constantB">0.08</double>
<double type="homeAdvantage">1.223333333333</double>
<double type="homeAdvantageGG">0.123333333333</double>
<int type="attacks">12</int>
<double type="etAttackCoeff">0.293333333333</double>
<int type="shootoutLength">5</int>
<double type="goldenGoalProb">0.4</double>
<double type="shootoutProb">0.65</double>
<int type="pointValues">1</int>
<double type="attackCoeffs">1</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleCoeffA">2.0000000000000</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleCoeffB">1.2000000000000</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleExponent">-0.23705203296846</double>
<double type="NSFSStyleOffset">0.102435335725325</double>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalsFor">GF</string>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalsAgainst">GA</string>
<string type="tableHeaderGoalDifference">GD</string>
<list type="tiebreakers">
<string>extratime</string>
<string>shootout</string>
</list>
<list type="tiebreakerNames">
<string>AET</string>
<string>pen.</string>
</list>
</paradigmOptions>
<!-- the style modifier distribution is a bit wonky because negative modifiers are less likely to take effect -->
<dataPoints name="style">
<dataPoint pos="0">-3</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.4">-1</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.5">0</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="0.65">0</dataPoint>
<dataPoint pos="1">3</dataPoint>
</dataPoints>
</sport>
by 95X » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:57 pm
If you open the folder xkoranate is contained in, you should see a folder named "sports". Inside that folder is a folder called "associationfootball"; incursive is yet another called "associationfootball". That folder should have three files: "football_footba11er.xml", football_nsfs.xml" and "football_sqis.xml". You want to save the SGIS code as the file "football_sgis.xml".North Quadana wrote:I had the code, but i can't seem to find out where should i put it.
Nation not my RL views, etc.
Poe's Law. Nonpartisan.
by North Quadana » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:27 am
95X wrote:If you open the folder xkoranate is contained in, you should see a folder named "sports". Inside that folder is a folder called "associationfootball"; incursive is yet another called "associationfootball". That folder should have three files: "football_footba11er.xml", football_nsfs.xml" and "football_sqis.xml". You want to save the SGIS code as the file "football_sgis.xml".North Quadana wrote:I had the code, but i can't seem to find out where should i put it.
When you re-open xkoranate, SGIS should now appear as an option.
by Starblaydia » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:22 am
by Baranil » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:24 am
by Commonwealth of Baker Park » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:58 pm
Starblaydia wrote:I shared this the other day for the folks in the North Pacific, who are setting up their own World Cup having done some messing around, by way of giving them some advice with how xkoranate works to get things going for them. I took one of Zwang's posts, one that I've used myself as guidance, and fleshed it out a little, added some screenshots, and came up with: xkoranate for Dummies.
Interested to see what the community at large thinks of the guide, and if it's missing anything in regard to starting a football tournament.
by Starblaydia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:48 am
Commonwealth of Baker Park wrote:Starblaydia wrote:I shared this the other day for the folks in the North Pacific, who are setting up their own World Cup having done some messing around, by way of giving them some advice with how xkoranate works to get things going for them. I took one of Zwang's posts, one that I've used myself as guidance, and fleshed it out a little, added some screenshots, and came up with: xkoranate for Dummies.
Interested to see what the community at large thinks of the guide, and if it's missing anything in regard to starting a football tournament.
This is excellent for anyone who might be a bit intimidated by the program and how to use all of the variables. I learned a lot of this by trial and error, but I still picked a couple of things I didn't know reading this.
by Pratapgadh » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:48 pm
by Lisander » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:23 pm
Pratapgadh wrote:Are there any scorinators that work on Chromebooks?
by Qusmo » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Pratapgadh wrote:Are there any scorinators that work on Chromebooks?
by Free Republics » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:38 pm
by Pratapgadh » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:31 pm
by Apl0n » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:46 pm
Free Republics wrote:95X wrote:Saw something that tangentially relates to scorinators and thought I'd share.
A Pew Research study states the percentage of adults in the United States that own and use a smartphone exceed those who use a desktop or laptop computer: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... of-growth/
Additional data says 20 percent of the US Adult population uses only a phone to access the internet: http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ (Scroll down to "Smartphone dependency over time")
Obviously, a survey of those 18-plus in only one country isn't necessarily indicative of NS users. But I will mention that the community-accepted scorinators we do have (namely, xkoranate and NSFS) were programmed by members of NS Sports that had the talent and inclination to do so.
The numbers are much likely larger worldwide (or even just in the English-speaking world in general) since the United States is a relatively wealthy country and I'd say there's a definite need given how frequently people have asked whether they can run xkoranate on their iPhone, Android phone or Chromebook.
At some point, I'd like to create a web-based scorination platform capable of scorinating the Olympics which would have some kind of an account system (collecting only the minimum amount of data necessary to fulfill its functions and using a secure system to store passwords) and the ability to save results in a database. If I ever get around to creating this (and its still a ways off), I'd release the code publicly and probably introduce it with a large multi-sport tournament of some kind.
Supporting both iOS and Android requires the creation of two completely different but equivalent apps, likely written in 2 completely different programming languages, and paying an annual fee to Apple to release the app on their app store (the only way to get software on an iOS device) and possibly paying a one-time fee to Google (which is required to release an app on Google Play, though Android allows apps to be installed from other app stores or even by being downloaded directly from the web).
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