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7 Trees
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Postby 7 Trees » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:36 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
7 Trees wrote:Thoughts? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543799
I think it's good, but I'd like feedback. Thanks!

Edit: I'm working on the frequent flyer section.

Minor nitpick: I don't think business class passengers would like their IFE screen on their side instead of their front.

Thanks for the feedback! When generating the image my thought was that the screen would pivot and turn to face you.
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7 Trees wrote:Thoughts? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543799
I think it's good, but I'd like feedback. Thanks!

Edit: I'm working on the frequent flyer section.


The large logo on the OP is cool, but it evokes land travel with the cars, instead of air travel in the sky. Just first impression for me.

Economy Class :
"Why settle for cheap, uncomfortable seats when you can fly with FlyWay, our economy seats are made of leather and we use only the best material so your flight is not just cheap but also comfortable."


- Just a minor point, instead of calling your seats 'cheap', I would say 'economical'. :p In RL, airlines don't usually refer to them as the 'cheap seats' even though in reality, they are. They use words that make customers feel better that they're saving money. I would still keep the first 'cheap' in the sentence, because you're referring to other airlines and you do want to make them look worse, but change the second 'cheap' in the sentence to 'economical'. You already called them economy seats, after all. Again, no one here on NS will really care, but if you're going for keeping the reader to feeling like they're on a real airline website, details like that matter.

Otherwise, it looks great and you have a lot of the major details down. You could maybe throw in meal service in there, and how passengers can order their meals and other accommodations ahead of their flights, such as assistants for solo flying children and disabled folks, but...you've got plenty in there already.

Thanks! Instead of economical what about affordable, I think it fits the bill better since we are talking about price. I was going to include a food sections, but I don't know what to have in it. For the log I was thinking it more as leaving the traffic behind, but you are right, it does somewhat point towards car travel.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:17 pm

7 Trees wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Minor nitpick: I don't think business class passengers would like their IFE screen on their side instead of their front.

Thanks for the feedback! When generating the image my thought was that the screen would pivot and turn to face you.

You may need to edit that. I don't see any hinges/pivot points for the screen to turn.

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Postby Neu Engollon » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:50 pm

7 Trees wrote:Thanks! Instead of economical what about affordable, I think it fits the bill better since we are talking about price. I was going to include a food sections, but I don't know what to have in it. For the log I was thinking it more as leaving the traffic behind, but you are right, it does somewhat point towards car travel.


'Affordable' is a good term, too.
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Postby 7 Trees » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:34 am

Diarcesia wrote:
7 Trees wrote:Thanks for the feedback! When generating the image my thought was that the screen would pivot and turn to face you.

You may need to edit that. I don't see any hinges/pivot points for the screen to turn.

If you look closely they don't sit entirely flush into the side of the seat, I would assume the hinge is hidden at the back of the screen.
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7 Trees wrote:Thanks! Instead of economical what about affordable, I think it fits the bill better since we are talking about price. I was going to include a food sections, but I don't know what to have in it. For the log I was thinking it more as leaving the traffic behind, but you are right, it does somewhat point towards car travel.


'Affordable' is a good term, too.
Do what you feel works. These are all just suggestions, after all.

I think I'll go with 'Affordable', thanks again for the feedback!
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Postby Beliras » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:35 am

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So, you seem to have a decent grasp of BB Code, but maybe you just missed this one. For center alignment, you highlight the image url, and select the align button above the text box to bracket that. After the equals sign after 'align', type "center", but keeping it in the bracket. (Center spelled the American way, not the British/Commonwealth way. ;) )
That should do it, but try hitting preview first to make sure. For floatleft and floatright you don't need to add any additional text. They do as advertised. Again, if you align center all the images, it will still look odd, especially without a lot of text between them, but re-aligning one or two should break up the awkward monotony.

I mean, how do I make my logo bigger and the images smaller? Using the [size] thing?
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Postby 7 Trees » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:36 am

Beliras wrote:
Neu Engollon wrote:
So, you seem to have a decent grasp of BB Code, but maybe you just missed this one. For center alignment, you highlight the image url, and select the align button above the text box to bracket that. After the equals sign after 'align', type "center", but keeping it in the bracket. (Center spelled the American way, not the British/Commonwealth way. ;) )
That should do it, but try hitting preview first to make sure. For floatleft and floatright you don't need to add any additional text. They do as advertised. Again, if you align center all the images, it will still look odd, especially without a lot of text between them, but re-aligning one or two should break up the awkward monotony.

I mean, how do I make my logo bigger and the images smaller? Using the [size] thing?

Hi! No, that won't work you need to upscale it in an image editor like Microsoft photos.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:51 am

Beliras wrote:I mean, how do I make my logo bigger and the images smaller? Using the [size] thing?


Ah, my bad. Yeah, what 7 Trees said. That's an issue you can't fix in NS. Has to be done with your graphics program or the image host site you use. Sizing in BB code only works for text here.
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Postby Heldervin » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:33 am

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544921

I would like some criticism and feedback.

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Postby Asucki » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:50 pm

Heldervin wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544921

I would like some criticism and feedback.


A few things I would suggest.

First, label the storefront as PMT (Post-modern tech) or FT (Future tech) so your potential customers can more easily identify the tech level you're catering to. The formatting as a whole could use a little work, but it's a good start. I'd suggest taking some of the more important parts of the site out of spoilers so it doesn't seem so barren. Keeping things clean is good but when the overwhelming majority of the storefront is contained in three spoilers it doesn't make a great first impression

Second, I think the product section could use more details. The history part is good but you only have one sentence for each of your actual products. Clarify the specifications of the Techdor XI beyond what you have now and generally just broaden your descriptions. Products are probably the most important part of the storefront as they're what you want people to look for. As I said, the history segment is great, necessary, even, but you're going to get a lot more traffic if you have interesting products that can fit into someone else's RPing. Adding more products overall would be good too.

Finally, I'd say that a product order form would be helpful. Most storefronts have them in some form. It just makes it easier for your potential customers to make a purchase.
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Postby Heldervin » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:54 pm

Asucki wrote:
Heldervin wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544921

I would like some criticism and feedback.


A few things I would suggest.

First, label the storefront as PMT (Post-modern tech) or FT (Future tech) so your potential customers can more easily identify the tech level you're catering to. The formatting as a whole could use a little work, but it's a good start. I'd suggest taking some of the more important parts of the site out of spoilers so it doesn't seem so barren. Keeping things clean is good but when the overwhelming majority of the storefront is contained in three spoilers it doesn't make a great first impression

Second, I think the product section could use more details. The history part is good but you only have one sentence for each of your actual products. Clarify the specifications of the Techdor XI beyond what you have now and generally just broaden your descriptions. Products are probably the most important part of the storefront as they're what you want people to look for. As I said, the history segment is great, necessary, even, but you're going to get a lot more traffic if you have interesting products that can fit into someone else's RPing. Adding more products overall would be good too.

Finally, I'd say that a product order form would be helpful. Most storefronts have them in some form. It just makes it easier for your potential customers to make a purchase.


Thank you, I'll make sure to put those suggestions into action for Cyberry.

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Postby Nationeer » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:05 am

Hello everyone,

I would like your opinions and feedback on this:
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544796

I myself still feel unsatisfied somehow, been editing it at least once every day since it's creation, is it too overwhelming? Is the images too big? Is there too many images? Making this a proofing ground before expanding to other business. Thanks for your time :D
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Postby British Arzelentaxmacone » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:15 am

I recently set up a storefront of my own, Arzelent Chemicals and Minerals. I’m currently working on a few more posts for the catalogue, but would be interested to see what others think and whether anyone has any suggestions for how I can improve!

Catalogue Thread here, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543855
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:44 am

Nationeer wrote:Hello everyone,

I would like your opinions and feedback on this:
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544796

I myself still feel unsatisfied somehow, been editing it at least once every day since it's creation, is it too overwhelming? Is the images too big? Is there too many images? Making this a proofing ground before expanding to other business. Thanks for your time :D


It's pretty standard stuff. There's not much more you can do for an airport. I think you've done plenty and any more might be too much. Yeah, the images are a bit on the large side, but that's not a big thing.
I think you have to encourage more airlines to sign up. Maybe hit the RPers with airlines up with some gentle, polite TGs with a link to your storefront.
Likewise, people with shops and restaurants, you might want to encourage to apply, maybe visiting their storefronts and posting a form letter to them redirecting them to yours.

In summary, reach out to other roleplayers to get involved. You don't need to go overboard on the storefront. You just need to be proactive in getting more activity on board.

British Arzelentaxmacone wrote:I recently set up a storefront of my own, Arzelent Chemicals and Minerals. I’m currently working on a few more posts for the catalogue, but would be interested to see what others think and whether anyone has any suggestions for how I can improve!

Catalogue Thread here, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543855


Again, pretty straight forward stuff. Looks like you did your research on the minerals. You're lacking images in your catalog, but in your particular case, I don't think adding a bunch of pictures of rocks is going to get players more excited to RP patrons to your storefront.
In lieu of that, maybe getting more bold with your formatting might help? Add more color, possibly?
To get more RP interaction, you might need to go more into exactly why nations or individual customers would need these particular minerals. How would it benefit them?
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Postby British Arzelentaxmacone » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:57 am

Neu Engollon wrote:snip


Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. That’s indeed a good idea, and I will definitely consider making the storefront more colourful, bold in terms of design, and also appealing to potential customers. Perhaps one way is describing how each mineral and chemical can be used for items that nations would be infested in. Thanks again! :)
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Postby Greater Marine » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:58 am

Could I have some feedback on my automobile storefront, as well as recommendations for any new products? I want more, but I don't quite know where to start.

Storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543170

Catalogue:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543175
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Postby Greater Marine » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:02 am

British Arzelentaxmacone wrote:
Neu Engollon wrote:snip


Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. That’s indeed a good idea, and I will definitely consider making the storefront more colourful, bold in terms of design, and also appealing to potential customers. Perhaps one way is describing how each mineral and chemical can be used for items that nations would be infested in. Thanks again! :)

I think it's a good storefront, but I'd actually think a few pictures might be nice. The formatting is actually very nice - much better than many of my storefronts, and I like the periodic table thing you're doing.
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Postby British Arzelentaxmacone » Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:03 am

Greater Marine wrote:
British Arzelentaxmacone wrote:
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. That’s indeed a good idea, and I will definitely consider making the storefront more colourful, bold in terms of design, and also appealing to potential customers. Perhaps one way is describing how each mineral and chemical can be used for items that nations would be infested in. Thanks again! :)

I think it's a good storefront, but I'd actually think a few pictures might be nice. The formatting is actually very nice - much better than many of my storefronts, and I like the periodic table thing you're doing.


That’s very kind of you to say. I’ll try and find some images at some point to add to the catalogue in the hopes of improving its appearance.
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Postby Ardenfontein » Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:09 am

Greater Marine wrote:Could I have some feedback on my automobile storefront, as well as recommendations for any new products? I want more, but I don't quite know where to start.

Storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543170

Catalogue:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543175


Wow. I love your catalogue vehicle designs - especially the custom art. I'm signing up as your new In-Character customer
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Postby Nationeer » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:31 am

Neu Engollon wrote:
Nationeer wrote:Hello everyone,

I would like your opinions and feedback on this:
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=544796

I myself still feel unsatisfied somehow, been editing it at least once every day since it's creation, is it too overwhelming? Is the images too big? Is there too many images? Making this a proofing ground before expanding to other business. Thanks for your time : D


It's pretty standard stuff. There's not much more you can do for an airport. I think you've done plenty and any more might be too much. Yeah, the images are a bit on the large side, but that's not a big thing.
I think you have to encourage more airlines to sign up. Maybe hit the RPers with airlines up with some gentle, polite TGs with a link to your storefront.
Likewise, people with shops and restaurants, you might want to encourage to apply, maybe visiting their storefronts and posting a form letter to them redirecting them to yours.

In summary, reach out to other roleplayers to get involved. You don't need to go overboard on the storefront. You just need to be proactive in getting more activity on board.



Thank you very much for the feedback! I've been planning to expand the storefront to accept shops and restaurants too, I'll make a bit more improvement before going more proactive on the rp side.
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Postby Nationeer » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:57 am

Greater Marine wrote:Could I have some feedback on my automobile storefront, as well as recommendations for any new products? I want more, but I don't quite know where to start.

Storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543170

Catalogue:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543175


The storefront is already to the point and easy to understand, but I think you need to make the "Explore our model lineup" part bigger and bold, something like size 150 to 200. Because the catalogue is pretty much essential major part of the storefront. Something like:

Explore Our Model Lineup

As for product ideas, I suggest more variations for the luxury cars like extended/stretched version for the saloon, that would be great for executive uses. Also more SUV variants too to go along with that, I'm interested in ordering some SUVs myself when the time comes. So overall, my suggestion is to focus on the luxury part. An even more fun idea would be, looking at the company's history, motorcycles! There's a lack of motorcycles in the market right now, I'm definitely going to order motorcycles too if you have them.
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Postby Greater Marine » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:04 pm

Nationeer wrote:
Greater Marine wrote:Could I have some feedback on my automobile storefront, as well as recommendations for any new products? I want more, but I don't quite know where to start.

Storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543170

Catalogue:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=543175


The storefront is already to the point and easy to understand, but I think you need to make the "Explore our model lineup" part bigger and bold, something like size 150 to 200. Because the catalogue is pretty much essential major part of the storefront. Something like:

Explore Our Model Lineup

As for product ideas, I suggest more variations for the luxury cars like extended/stretched version for the saloon, that would be great for executive uses. Also more SUV variants too to go along with that, I'm interested in ordering some SUVs myself when the time comes. So overall, my suggestion is to focus on the luxury part. An even more fun idea would be, looking at the company's history, motorcycles! There's a lack of motorcycles in the market right now, I'm definitely going to order motorcycles too if you have them.

Fixed the size thing, new products should be out within a week
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Postby Fishelle » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:04 am

Can I have feedback on my new storefront? This is my first time making a storefront.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:33 pm

Fishelle wrote:Can I have feedback on my new storefront? This is my first time making a storefront.


It's unique. There's not a lot of FanT object storefronts that have ever been done on NS. I like the use of a separate catalog thread.

It's very, very, very sparse. Thin on images, branding, formatting, and text content. A lot of work to do on all those areas.

That's all I will say for now, unless, and until, you would like more clarification on specific issues.
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Postby Fishelle » Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:59 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:
Fishelle wrote:Can I have feedback on my new storefront? This is my first time making a storefront.


It's unique. There's not a lot of FanT object storefronts that have ever been done on NS. I like the use of a separate catalog thread.

It's very, very, very sparse. Thin on images, branding, formatting, and text content. A lot of work to do on all those areas.

That's all I will say for now, unless, and until, you would like more clarification on specific issues.

I want feedback regarding the prices, and the items themselves. Are there any issues, even in a FanT context? Yes, I am also talking about the mundane item prices.
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