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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:36 am

European Federal Union wrote:
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Tbf there are entire alliances I could pack on my own

Like the CSL? I mean you could, I’m also not relying on anyone to come to my aid if I get attacked.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:38 am

Nation Name: The Galapagos
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Postby European Federal Union » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:38 am

Azmeny wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:
Tbf there are entire alliances I could pack on my own

Like the CSL? I mean you could, I’m also not relying on anyone to come to my aid if I get attacked.


Not nessicarily mainly the CEF and a bunch of smaller coalitions
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Postby Kostane » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:39 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Nation Name: The Galapagos
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:51 am

Guys, please can we not have a world war? Please? This is my OOC plea, yeah?
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:52 am

The Daeva wrote:Guys, please can we not have a world war? Please? This is my OOC plea, yeah?

Nobody wants a world war, but Azmeny needs to know not to touch boats that aren’t theirs
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:53 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Daeva wrote:Guys, please can we not have a world war? Please? This is my OOC plea, yeah?

Nobody wants a world war, but Azmeny needs to know not to touch boats that aren’t theirs


I offered to pay for those boats, so.
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Kostane
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Postby Kostane » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:53 am

The Daeva wrote:Guys, please can we not have a world war? Please? This is my OOC plea, yeah?

OOCly, I’m not sure I want world war.

ICly, I do.

I don’t know what to do.
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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:54 am

I don’t want world war, but I’m scared people do so I don’t want to be a dick and stand in other people’s way.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:54 am

The Daeva wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Nobody wants a world war, but Azmeny needs to know not to touch boats that aren’t theirs


I offered to pay for those boats, so.

Still this attack is an attack against freedom and democracy worldwide. We cannot allow for liberty to be crushed by the communist menace that threatens to destroy our way of life.
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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:55 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Daeva wrote:Guys, please can we not have a world war? Please? This is my OOC plea, yeah?

Nobody wants a world war, but Azmeny needs to know not to touch boats that aren’t theirs

When Gonswanza stops touching my planes I might.
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:59 am

How about I just pay for the boats. C’mon, I can’t deal with this right now, please?
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:01 pm

The Daeva wrote:How about I just pay for the boats. C’mon, I can’t deal with this right now, please?

I will pay. Any attempt at reconciliation has to be from me. It’s me they’re angry with, not you.
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Azmeny24: the latest headlines from Azmeny
Azmen ASP rep dead: shootout in headquarters| Azmeny remembers ‘national hero’ Osman Sakharov |Azmeny unveils “world-beating” B-4X main battle tank at arms expo|Azmeny welcomes  military assistance from Boldonia: Azmeny open to cooperation|Azmen and CSL forces liberate Cameroon from Jelorifa|Crisis in Azmenabad: east rinaeran troops infiltrate CSL headquarters, troops mobilised|Azmeny unveils cutting-edge Starfire anti missile defence|Azmen and CSL forces triumphant in Shieldstan: British surrender

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Tiami
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Postby Tiami » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:03 pm

The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?
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Kostane
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Postby Kostane » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:04 pm

Azmeny wrote:
The Daeva wrote:How about I just pay for the boats. C’mon, I can’t deal with this right now, please?

I will pay. Any attempt at reconciliation has to be from me. It’s me they’re angry with, not you.

I’m looking through the thread to see who has bombed me so I can demand reparations.
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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:06 pm

Tiami wrote:The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?

Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..
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Azmeny24: the latest headlines from Azmeny
Azmen ASP rep dead: shootout in headquarters| Azmeny remembers ‘national hero’ Osman Sakharov |Azmeny unveils “world-beating” B-4X main battle tank at arms expo|Azmeny welcomes  military assistance from Boldonia: Azmeny open to cooperation|Azmen and CSL forces liberate Cameroon from Jelorifa|Crisis in Azmenabad: east rinaeran troops infiltrate CSL headquarters, troops mobilised|Azmeny unveils cutting-edge Starfire anti missile defence|Azmen and CSL forces triumphant in Shieldstan: British surrender

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The Daeva
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:07 pm

Azmeny wrote:
Tiami wrote:The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?

Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..


Ok, but your fun matters as well
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Greater Marine » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:07 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
I offered to pay for those boats, so.

Still this attack is an attack against freedom and democracy worldwide. We cannot allow for liberty to be crushed by the communist menace that threatens to destroy our way of life.

Azmeny is far more liberal and democratic than that hellhole that is Gonswanza. I ask you, is that a country you’d really wish to live in? And an invasion threat over a few sunk ships is a ridiculous escalation when Gonswanza have already retaliated in kind.


You know in the real world where citizens aren’t obedient little puppets of their leaders, large scale war is highly unpopular and war is therefore a last resort, always?
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Postby Kostane » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:09 pm

Azmeny wrote:
Tiami wrote:The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?

Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..

War on that scale is quite literally unimaginable for me. I’ve only ever been involved in one coalition war, and it was a rather small coalition. It almost destroyed Kostane.

That being said, I do intend to try to gain victories for the Kostan government in the war, even though I plan on accepting liberalization efforts proposed by EF.
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Postby Azmeny » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:10 pm

The Daeva wrote:
Azmeny wrote:Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..


Ok, but your fun matters as well

Democracy means that if I vote for one guy and everyone else votes for another, i don’t have my say even if it hurts my feelings. I believe in this so called democracy, I shouldn’t set double standards. Besides, all I’ve done here is been an asshole to people around me, ICly and OOCly.

They deserve their chance at revenge.
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Azmeny24: the latest headlines from Azmeny
Azmen ASP rep dead: shootout in headquarters| Azmeny remembers ‘national hero’ Osman Sakharov |Azmeny unveils “world-beating” B-4X main battle tank at arms expo|Azmeny welcomes  military assistance from Boldonia: Azmeny open to cooperation|Azmen and CSL forces liberate Cameroon from Jelorifa|Crisis in Azmenabad: east rinaeran troops infiltrate CSL headquarters, troops mobilised|Azmeny unveils cutting-edge Starfire anti missile defence|Azmen and CSL forces triumphant in Shieldstan: British surrender

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Postby Tiami » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:10 pm

Azmeny wrote:
Tiami wrote:The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?

Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..

If you do not want the world war, OOCLy, you are not obligated to join.

Your ability to create and have fun is just as important as anyone else, otherwise RPing will not be fun for you. I commend you, Azmeny, on taking losses and RPing within the confines of what has transpired over the course of the war; however, if you are only catering to what everyone else is saying or doing, then are you really RPing the way you want to? War is a last resort, to be used when there is no other choice. On NS, most RPers just throw weapons at each other without thinking about losses or the intended consequence of said losses and drawn-out conflict. They have 5 fronts of war open, when no other nations in RL could realistically sustain such a large-scale war.
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:12 pm

Azmeny wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
Ok, but your fun matters as well

Democracy means that if I vote for one guy and everyone else votes for another, i don’t have my say even if it hurts my feelings. I believe in this so called democracy, I shouldn’t set double standards. Besides, all I’ve done here is been an asshole to people around me, ICly and OOCly.

They deserve their chance at revenge.


You really haven’t been an asshole, though, in my observation
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:13 pm

The Daeva wrote:
Azmeny wrote:Democracy means that if I vote for one guy and everyone else votes for another, i don’t have my say even if it hurts my feelings. I believe in this so called democracy, I shouldn’t set double standards. Besides, all I’ve done here is been an asshole to people around me, ICly and OOCly.

They deserve their chance at revenge.


You really have t been an asshole, though, in my observation

If someone doesn't see the T tho... :skull:
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Postby British Arzelentaxmacone » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:14 pm

Azmeny wrote:
Tiami wrote:The solution to avoiding a world war is simple: Just don't do it.
That's an OOC response to addressing the desire to avoid such a war. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If you feel the need to appease everyone, don't. You' only be making enemies. You do not have to force yourself into a RP if you do not agree with premise.

The proper IC response would be to open up negotiations. Ask some basic questions. Can there be peace? What is the cost of peace? How do the involved parties proceed from there?

Yes, we must hold negotiations. Now. OOCly though I feel if everyone want war and I whine and stop other peoples fun, that would be disrespectful..


Remember that you have a say in what happens as much as anybody else does. Your opinions and your thoughts on this matter are as valid and important as anybody else’s.
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Postby The Daeva » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:15 pm

The Astral Mandate wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
You really have t been an asshole, though, in my observation

If someone doesn't see the T tho... :skull:


Haha, it’s autocorrect, let me fix that..
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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