The Great Heldervinian Civil War OOC

[Heldervin]

Not if you use high-yield crops. And not if the soil is very fertile. That would speed up the crop growth speed, potentially allowing for second rounds for crops in one season.

Uhm, im pretty sure thats not how biology works, plannting them in good soil increases their growth but not in an extend that allows for two harvests in one season. High yield crops are already standart, so they wont change much when it comes to overal output

Potatoes, corn, soybeans, rice, and cucumbers. A high-yield crop that is non-edible is cotton. But you're right, it wouldn't speed it up.

[European Federal Union]

Uhm, im pretty sure thats not how biology works, plannting them in good soil increases their growth but not in an extend that allows for two harvests in one season. High yield crops are already standart, so they wont change much when it comes to overal output

Potatoes, corn, soybeans, rice, and cucumbers. A high-yield crop that is non-edible is cotton. But you're right, it wouldn't speed it up.

I eddited the last part, tho I also have a question of how we continue ICly

And from what you say your agraculture is big which is also adressed in the GDP estimate I gave you, but due to your large population a big portion of what you produced is already consumed domestically, meaning that its restricted in the ammount of money you can earn with it on the international market.

[Heldervin]

Potatoes, corn, soybeans, rice, and cucumbers. A high-yield crop that is non-edible is cotton. But you're right, it wouldn't speed it up.

I eddited the last part, tho I also have a question of how we continue ICly

And from what you say your agraculture is big which is also adressed in the GDP estimate I gave you, but due to your large population a big portion of what you produced is already consumed domestically, meaning that its restricted in the ammount of money you can earn with it on the international market.

As I said though, we still have to produce a surplus quickly. Also, fishing would also provide food as well. And Heldervin is abundant in fish. VERY abundant.

[European Federal Union]

I eddited the last part, tho I also have a question of how we continue ICly

And from what you say your agraculture is big which is also adressed in the GDP estimate I gave you, but due to your large population a big portion of what you produced is already consumed domestically, meaning that its restricted in the ammount of money you can earn with it on the international market.

As I said though, we still have to produce a surplus quickly. Also, fishing would also provide food as well. And Heldervin is abundant in fish. VERY abundant.

Yes I didnt said that all of it is consumed domestically what I said was alot of it which very much limits the ammount of food you have left to export, not that you cant export any.

Tho ICly what now?

[Heldervin]

As I said though, we still have to produce a surplus quickly. Also, fishing would also provide food as well. And Heldervin is abundant in fish. VERY abundant.

Yes I didnt said that all of it is consumed domestically what I said was alot of it which very much limits the ammount of food you have left to export, not that you cant export any.

Tho ICly what now?

What do you mean by that question?

[European Federal Union]

What do you mean by that question?

Is there still anything that will happen, like we had the peacetalks and they failed, but what after that?

[Heldervin]

What do you mean by that question?

Is there still anything that will happen, like we had the peacetalks and they failed, but what after that?

To be honest... I don't really know. I released my citizens to rebuild and such. A few Morvinian soldiers are visiting Vrebsicourg.

[European Federal Union]

Is there still anything that will happen, like we had the peacetalks and they failed, but what after that?

To be honest... I don't really know. I released my citizens to rebuild and such. A few Morvinian soldiers are visiting Vrebsicourg.

Is there any way to force the government into a accepting a peace deal and the independence of East Heldervin, without starting a full-blown war?

[Heldervin]

To be honest... I don't really know. I released my citizens to rebuild and such. A few Morvinian soldiers are visiting Vrebsicourg.

Is there any way to force the government into a accepting a peace deal and the independence of East Heldervin, without starting a full-blown war?

Not really. You could try and make the resources worthless by cutting trade routes, but such wouldn't have an effect for a long time. Like, at least a decade.

[European Federal Union]

Is there any way to force the government into a accepting a peace deal and the independence of East Heldervin, without starting a full-blown war?

Not really. You could try and make the resources worthless by cutting trade routes, but such wouldn't have an effect for a long time. Like, at least a decade.

After the constant bombing, what kind of military infrastructure is still left in Heldervin?

[Heldervin]

Not really. You could try and make the resources worthless by cutting trade routes, but such wouldn't have an effect for a long time. Like, at least a decade.

After the constant bombing, what kind of military infrastructure is still left in Heldervin?

Mostly underground. Now, I question whether you bombed the entire nation or certain places.

[European Federal Union]

After the constant bombing, what kind of military infrastructure is still left in Heldervin?

Mostly underground. Now, I question whether you bombed the entire nation or certain places.

All my efforts have been focused on striking targets across the nation

[Heldervin]

Mostly underground. Now, I question whether you bombed the entire nation or certain places.

All my efforts have been focused on striking targets across the nation

Well, the barracks and forts would be heavily damaged, with the majority blasted to bits, stone scattered. But did you bomb the factories?

Also, do I have to canonize the consequences into unrelated RP, i.e. the Ansium Global Airport in GE&T? Or does it have to apply to everything?

[European Federal Union]

All my efforts have been focused on striking targets across the nation

Well, the barracks and forts would be heavily damaged, with the majority blasted to bits, stone scattered. But did you bomb the factories?

Also, do I have to canonize the consequences into unrelated RP, i.e. the Ansium Global Airport in GE&T? Or does it have to apply to everything?

You can continue with the GE&T thread, tho if the airport is used by any military aicraft it would become a target. Tho the same benifit does not apply to the other airports.

Only military related factories and wearhouses have been attacked

[Heldervin]

Well, the barracks and forts would be heavily damaged, with the majority blasted to bits, stone scattered. But did you bomb the factories?

Also, do I have to canonize the consequences into unrelated RP, i.e. the Ansium Global Airport in GE&T? Or does it have to apply to everything?

You can continue with the GE&T thread, tho if the airport is used by any military aicraft it would become a target. Tho the same benifit does not apply to the other airports.

Only military related factories and wearhouses have been attacked

How would you know whether a factory would be military-related or not.

[European Federal Union]

You can continue with the GE&T thread, tho if the airport is used by any military aicraft it would become a target. Tho the same benifit does not apply to the other airports.

Only military related factories and wearhouses have been attacked

How would you know whether a factory would be military-related or not.

Partially guessing and partially observing. Military factories ussaly have extremely high security standarts around them, while they are also generally somewhat larger and spread across an wider area compared to normal ones. They could also be confused for chemical plants, but in this case they would just assume it is one and bomb it

[New Heldervinia]

How would you know whether a factory would be military-related or not.

Partially guessing and partially observing. Military factories ussaly have extremely high security standarts around them, while they are also generally somewhat larger and spread across an wider area compared to normal ones. They could also be confused for chemical plants, but in this case they would just assume it is one and bomb it

But that's the thing. Most factories, in fact, are large in Heldervin. And security isn't as high as RL, because there's already a significant amount of equipment.

[European Federal Union]

But that's the thing. Most factories, in fact, are large in Heldervin. And security isn't as high as RL, because there's already a significant amount of equipment.

If theres no high security put in what would be stopping people from just assaulting it and stealing explosive material and equipmet inside? Or what would stop agents from scouting them out and reporting them?

[Assassins BrotherHoodd]

Hm.I wonder, what I should do.

[Greater Morvonia]

Hm.I wonder, what I should do.

Same tbh
I really wanna do something with the FCS Gogmagog but I'll wait until Janpia makes a move first.

[Greater Morvonia]

Hm.I wonder, what I should do.

Same tbh
I really wanna do something with the FCS Gogmagog but I'll wait until Janpia makes a move first.

Wait actually I have an idea!

[European Federal Union]

Anyways, I think I will escalate the bombing campaign onto all sectors of Heldervins economy and the civilian facilities

[Heldervin]

But that's the thing. Most factories, in fact, are large in Heldervin. And security isn't as high as RL, because there's already a significant amount of equipment.

If theres no high security put in what would be stopping people from just assaulting it and stealing explosive material and equipmet inside? Or what would stop agents from scouting them out and reporting them?

Security is on the outside, the border. Also, you can't just go in and steal stuff. For one thing, you'd have to hide it from friends and family. Plus, you'd get executed for stealing such materials.

Besides that, military-related factories are state-run and, due to this, their locations are undisclosed. You don't know that it's for military purposes until you go inside, at which point a worker would likely brawl with you for breaking in.

[Assassins BrotherHoodd]

Eh.I’ll just build, more military outposts and such.Probably a fortress to, to increase protection.

[Tiami]

If theres no high security put in what would be stopping people from just assaulting it and stealing explosive material and equipmet inside? Or what would stop agents from scouting them out and reporting them?

Security is on the outside, the border. Also, you can't just go in and steal stuff. For one thing, you'd have to hide it from friends and family. Plus, you'd get executed for stealing such materials.

Besides that, military-related factories are state-run and, due to this, their locations are undisclosed. You don't know that it's for military purposes until you go inside, at which point a worker would likely brawl with you for breaking in.

Reconnaissance and information gathering missions can help discern a military factory over a civilian factory. To be informed is the greatest strength a nation can have during war time. Or an opposing nation opts for total war tactics in the form of saturation bombing attacks. It's something I would do to a far smaller target whom I'd want to conserve troops against. Short of nuclear attacks, just straight leveling the nation. No industry and a shattered nation ripe for takeover.