(CLOSED) Kalisight Treaty Organization (KTO) - Boardroom

[Darlingtown]

"The Paracasual Elimination unit is not in any way affiliated with the Countesian Federal Armed Forces. Any action taken against us is unjustified at best, and at worst, will hamper our efforts to counter the P.E.U." The Countesian Representative said, shocked that his nation was being blamed. "There are rumours indeed that the P.E.U was founded by the last Countesian monarch, King Blake II, as a response to his bigotry against nonhuman nations. But he was an arrogant isolationist and autarky supporter that brought 120 years of economic prosperity to a grinding halt in less than a year. That's why we as a nation exiled him to god knows where. but we have yet to uncover any evidence supporting this claim. We are aware that the P.E.U has a tendency to recruit mostly from Countesian veterans, but that's as far as any actual, undeniable connection goes."

- IDRIS -

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"Pardon me if I ask, as I don't know the state of Countesian affairs, but what has the Countesian government done prior to now to put a stop to the P.E.U.? I take it from your tone you're not much of a fan of them to put it lightly, but has any serious work been committed to stopping these terrorists? If so, I'm sure many members of the KTO would be more than willing to help hunt down this group, though we would require some information your government may be hesitant to provide if we are to be effective. If not, then I see no reason to not count the Countesian government as complicit through gross negligence in allowing a highly dangerous terrorist organization refuge within your borders.

But, again, I would need more information before knowing which is true. So please, enlighten us on what the Countesian government has done so far to combat the P.E.U."

[Countesia]

"The Paracasual Elimination unit is not in any way affiliated with the Countesian Federal Armed Forces. Any action taken against us is unjustified at best, and at worst, will hamper our efforts to counter the P.E.U." The Countesian Representative said, shocked that his nation was being blamed. "There are rumours indeed that the P.E.U was founded by the last Countesian monarch, King Blake II, as a response to his bigotry against nonhuman nations. But he was an arrogant isolationist and autarky supporter that brought 120 years of economic prosperity to a grinding halt in less than a year. That's why we as a nation exiled him to god knows where. but we have yet to uncover any evidence supporting this claim. We are aware that the P.E.U has a tendency to recruit mostly from Countesian veterans, but that's as far as any actual, undeniable connection goes."

- IDRIS -

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"Pardon me if I ask, as I don't know the state of Countesian affairs, but what has the Countesian government done prior to now to put a stop to the P.E.U.? I take it from your tone you're not much of a fan of them to put it lightly, but has any serious work been committed to stopping these terrorists? If so, I'm sure many members of the KTO would be more than willing to help hunt down this group, though we would require some information your government may be hesitant to provide if we are to be effective. If not, then I see no reason to not count the Countesian government as complicit through gross negligence in allowing a highly dangerous terrorist organization refuge within your borders.

But, again, I would need more information before knowing which is true. So please, enlighten us on what the Countesian government has done so far to combat the P.E.U."

"Countesian Federal Intelligence has been on their case since 2010. Almost a year after parliament passed the Federal Act which gave birth to the Federal Republic of Countesia as we know it today. Internal Security has no reason to believe they are physically based in Countesia. We've spent unfathomable amounts of manpower and funds quite literally turning over any rock where they could operate out from." The Countesian Represenative explained

"We are instead inclined believe that they operate from international waters in some kind of submersible watercraft toting stealth technology unlike anything we've ever seen. It's faster than anything we possess, and The Federal Navy has even lost three attack submarines attempting to pursue it. External Security on the other hand has had more than their fair share of encounters with them, and those affiliated with them. Our agents cracked down on a handful of minor black market rings supplying them, but anything and anyone will any real knowledge of where to track them down will disappear before we can guarantee their safety."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Maximoff: "Then why haven't they struck against Countesia? Either your forces are incompetent and have let loose a threat of your own design or they are being safeguarded by your own military or intelligence agency so that they can be used as pawns in a greater scheme against Countesia's enemies."

Maximoff seems to narrow his eyes at the Countesian representative, suspect of his country's motives.

[Countesia]

Rep. Maximoff: "Then why haven't they struck against Countesia? Either your forces are incompetent and have let loose a threat of your own design or they are being safeguarded by your own military or intelligence agency so that they can be used as pawns in a greater scheme against Countesia's enemies."

Maximoff seems to narrow his eyes at the Countesian representative, suspect of his country's motives.

"We don't have any nonhumans living within our borders. Well, we did have those sentient rabbits from Ukraine but they have since moved on. Peacefully too, if you're thinking we killed them"

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Maximoff: "Then it's the latter. Your country is simply pushing them around as pawns, dragging them around with a carrot-on-a-stick to employ them against your enemies to keep your leader's hands clean of the bloodshed. Yet, here we are, discussing the very incident that they are responsible for. I wonder how many other operations they have spear-headed under the current leader? Operating as a supposedly separate unit, entirely unrelated, drawn into doing the dirty work for Countesia to remove supposed threats preemptively?"

[Countesia]

Rep. Maximoff: "Then it's the latter. Your country is simply pushing them around as pawns, dragging them around with a carrot-on-a-stick to employ them against your enemies to keep your leader's hands clean of the bloodshed. Yet, here we are, discussing the very incident that they are responsible for. I wonder how many other operations they have spear-headed under the current leader? Operating as a supposedly separate unit, entirely unrelated, drawn into doing the dirty work for Countesia to remove supposed threats preemptively?"

"I don't believe neither Oliver West nor James Emmanuel are capable of such bigotry. But i'm afraid you're right about one thing, this has highlighted a major failure in intelligence"

[Anagonia]

Rep. Maximoff: "The world tends to think of Gonswanza as the enemy, despite Gonswanzan forces doing as they are told and following instructions to avoid civilian casualties. Yet, when the opposing force uses them as meatshields, it's inevitable that some civilians will be caught in the crossfire. Unless you can actively give a case with actual evidence of intentional acts of violence against civilians and purely civilians alone, you have nothing to hold against me or my nation. Though I'd advise against attempting to construct a case purely out of spite with a heap of lies easily debunked by a few seconds of research."

Colonel Peterson gives a nod, rubbing his temples. "Thank you, Ambassador Maximoff," he offers genuinely. "I will relay your words verbatim. Hopefully they will quite hounding me about this."

Looking out towards the rest of those assembled, then settling on the Countesian Representative. "I don't believe we've formally met," the Alexander Peterson said, raising an eyebrow briefly. "What is your name if I may ask?"

He then addressed the assembly directly.

"I have received word from home. For the moment, the President feels that the KTO is already beginning appropriate discussions concerning these horrible turn of events. He has suggested that since Countesia cannot handle its terrorist threats alone, that we as an alliance intervene and depose all terrorist elements within Countesia and institute a safer form of government capable of handling all threats. It's very clear that the terrorist cell mentioned by the unnamed Counestian Representative is diabolical and willing to kill anything remotely not human. Since, clearly, this is a direct threat to Anagonia, Darlingtown, and other nations like us with non-human citizens, it is believed that direct military intervention is necessary."

Slowly, the Colonel's head turned to the Countesian present in the assembly.

"The alternative is considering the representative sent here to us by the Countesian government an international criminal," the Colonel stated while staring at the aforementioned representative. "This representative and the government they represent. Which would require direct military intervention to bring to justice."

Alexander then looked around the room.

"Let me make this clear," he stated, somewhat loudly. "Whatever is decided here today to do about what has been done, regardless if it is our suggestion or someone else's, will dictate the response the international community will permanently have upon the KTO. Your reputation is in jeopardy. The very honor and integrity this alliance represents is practically in shambles. The core values of this alliance are at risk of being overthrown and abolished. The Countesian Representative, and any other party within this alliance that supported his actions, are a direct threat to the stability of the KTO and must be dealt with. Failure to do so fairly in court or through, as I suggested, direct military intervention, will abolish the reputation and standing of this alliance permanently."

It is a subtle warning from the Anagonian diplomat. One displayed by both his hidden anger, his tired features, and the way in which he addressed his peers around him. When he went silent, he merely stared around the table, then stared boldly at the Countesian. Afterward he resumed sitting quietly, reviewing reports as he awaited the general response.

[Neo-Western East Korea]

Jun Norikov, the first to shatter the silence in the wake of the Colonel’s Speech, begins speaking himself.

I do not disagree with your sentiment, Mr Peterson, but I must question the rather….. militant, per say, nature of the actions you have presented to us.

While, as a nation, we could not and would not oppose action to wipe out the vile group who’s agents (before their deaths) caused so much chaos in Aursi, I believe that a military intervention (on the side of the government or otherwise) may only give credence to their actions, through allowing them to blame their likely deaths on a cabal of foreign Non-Human species.

He takes a moment to drum his fingers upon the table, before continuing

I believe that, instead of a direct physical intervention, we must instead bolster the government itself, and utilize our own intelligence services to assist their own in rooting out this threat.

I believe that making the Courtesian state that ones to deliver the killing blow (with our support, of course!) will allow for the crushing of the movement with the support of the public will, instead of the cultural/social blowback that the military invention would likely accrue.

[Anagonia]

Jun Norikov, the first to shatter the silence in the wake of the Colonel’s Speech, begins speaking himself.

I do not disagree with your sentiment, Mr Peterson, but I must question the rather….. militant, per say, nature of the actions you have presented to us.

While, as a nation, we could not and would not oppose action to wipe out the vile group who’s agents (before their deaths) caused so much chaos in Aursi, I believe that a military intervention (on the side of the government or otherwise) may only give credence to their actions, through allowing them to blame their likely deaths on a cabal of foreign Non-Human species.

He takes a moment to drum his fingers upon the table, before continuing

I believe that, instead of a direct physical intervention, we must instead bolster the government itself, and utilize our own intelligence services to assist their own in rooting out this threat.

I believe that making the Courtesian state that ones to deliver the killing blow (with our support, of course!) will allow for the crushing of the movement with the support of the public will, instead of the cultural/social blowback that the military invention would likely accrue.

"I can get behind that idea," the Colonel said with a nod, taking the retort with dignity. "It is a very diplomatic solution and avoids the unnecessary event of inter-alliance warfare. Anagonia will be willing to assist if this is a path best chosen."

[Countesia]

"We will gladly take any assistance in delivering justice to perpetrators of the attack in Aursi, we will also deliver the "killing blow" as you say, if that is what it takes to exonerate Countesia from the accusations being laid before it"

[Anagonia]

"We will gladly take any assistance in delivering justice to perpetrators of the attack in Aursi, we will also deliver the "killing blow" as you say, if that is what it takes to exonerate Countesia from the accusations being laid before it"

"My apologies for my previous rhetoric, representative," the Colonel said towards the Countesian Ambassador.

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Maximoff: "Laura Ortiz and GoSA refuse to send aid for this futile goose chase. I on the other hand support booting Countesia from this alliance to save face, though Parliament's own say on this matter was overruled by Ortiz herself. Hence, it is so. Gonswanza shall hold their stance on this issue and will not be moved, either through blackmail or any other method."

[Countesia]

"My first recommendation would be to recover the corpse of the Marajarbian diplomat, and to confirm whether or not the P.E.U killed what they alleged to be an nonhuman, or a human being. It's certainly not the first time that people have made such claims about Marajarbians apparently masquerading as humans."

[Neo-Western East Korea]

Jun Norikov, gives the Countesian ambassador a long stare before beginning to speak once again.

While I am loathe to determine the policy of other nations, I believe that, instead of chasing after the same lunatic ideas that lead to the death of an innocent, we should begin (once a plan is more properly agreed upon somewhere else) an investigation into the forces behind the aforementioned death.

While I do not posses any specific means to begin this investigation, I believe it is well-within the ability of all members of this body who wish to contribute to this effort to hash out a deal in an external discussion.

[Countesia]

Jun Norikov, gives the Countesian ambassador a long stare before beginning to speak once again.

While I am loathe to determine the policy of other nations, I believe that, instead of chasing after the same lunatic ideas that lead to the death of an innocent, we should begin (once a plan is more properly agreed upon somewhere else) an investigation into the forces behind the aforementioned death.

While I do not posses any specific means to begin this investigation, I believe it is well-within the ability of all members of this body who wish to contribute to this effort to hash out a deal in an external discussion.

"Of course, the investigation into the Paracausal Eliminate Unit was always of the utmost priority. Together, we will fare a much better chance at finally bringing that despicable organisation down."

[Darlingtown]

Jun Norikov, the first to shatter the silence in the wake of the Colonel’s Speech, begins speaking himself.

I do not disagree with your sentiment, Mr Peterson, but I must question the rather….. militant, per say, nature of the actions you have presented to us.

While, as a nation, we could not and would not oppose action to wipe out the vile group who’s agents (before their deaths) caused so much chaos in Aursi, I believe that a military intervention (on the side of the government or otherwise) may only give credence to their actions, through allowing them to blame their likely deaths on a cabal of foreign Non-Human species.

He takes a moment to drum his fingers upon the table, before continuing

I believe that, instead of a direct physical intervention, we must instead bolster the government itself, and utilize our own intelligence services to assist their own in rooting out this threat.

I believe that making the Courtesian state that ones to deliver the killing blow (with our support, of course!) will allow for the crushing of the movement with the support of the public will, instead of the cultural/social blowback that the military invention would likely accrue.

- IDRIS -

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"There are three main issues with your proposal:

The first problem is that direct intervention will not change the perception of these terrorists in the slightest. They are already to the extreme of total eradication of non-Human species. There is no 'more' we can push them that they haven't already embraced themselves. And hunting diplomat-shooting terrorists won't exactly ruin the image of non-Human species in the eyes of the general public. Unless we are unable to muster even the tiniest fraction of effort on the PR front, of course. So in reality there is no drawback to swift, direct, aggressive intervention reputation-wise. If anything it may show that we are willing to protect non-Humans and others from such dangers with all of our might.

Another issue is with granting the Countesian government the 'killing blow', as you put it. Quite frankly, the Countesian government hasn't been able to get so much as a whiff of this group let alone deal any amount of damage to them. With the data we have available to us, it would seem that the Countesian government is not in a position to deliver such a final, fatal strike. Instead, it is a much higher priority that this group is dealt with instead of worrying about comparative trivialities like 'who should be the one to get the kill'. If anyone has the opportunity to finish off these terrorist they must take it.

But the biggest issue of all is that the P.E.U. has so far been more than capable of evading the restrained attempts of Countesia to end them. We cannot stop at half-measures and partial commitments. If we do not do everything in our power to stop these people then the killings will never end. We've already seen people connect the shooting to Countesia, even if the group is operating outside their control. The nations of the world will be less willing to believe that there is some bogeyman group running around in an uncatchable submarine hunting non-Humans than they would that Countesia simply offed a diplomat of a nation that was hostile to their own. For both Countesia's sake and our own, we must end this threat immediately and without reservation.

And, if I can address what the Countesian representative said regarding the former Marajarbian diplomat: Does it matter? Does it truly matter if the diplomat-turned-corpse in question was human or not? I won't lie and say I am not curious as well, but perhaps we best leave such suggestions for when we've established a plan of action regarding more pressing matters, no? In this moment, putting such great weight on that question that it must necessarily interrupt a discussion of this magnitude only adds to the feeling that non-Humans like me are little more than curiosities or circus freaks. If the Marajarbian diplomat was not said to be non-Human, would you have made the same suggestion?"

[Aursi]

Damien Milner: “Well, the security guards saw a creature, definitely not human they say. And our cars chased them and shot their tires, but most probably they bit something and had a bomb in the car. So, we couldn't get those culprits.”

[Romanic Imperium]

Atalanta walks into the room and sits in her seat.

[Anagonia]

"Welcome, Ambassador Atalanta!" greeted the Colonel.

[Aursi]

Atalanta walks into the room and sits in her seat.

Damien Milner was shocked to see Atalanta again. "Was he a clone?," said Milner to himself.

[Romanic Imperium]

"Welcome, Ambassador Atalanta!" greeted the Colonel.

"Greetings" Her eye twitches a bit. It's been a while since she was in this room

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Maximoff: "Well if it isn't the nation that refuses to let go of the past and enter the modern day... Oh, and Janpia, South Marjarbles wants to pass off a condemnation because they were sunk by a blockade, but they are convinced that the KTO is evil because of that, rather than just Janpia alone... Which is odd. So like the good old days."

[The Aquaria]

Rep. Kakyoin made a great yawn and back to the headquarter after buying his McDonald.

[Romanic Imperium]

Atalanta starts drinking a Venti Soy vanilla latte from starbucks

[Janpia]

Rep. Maximoff: "Well if it isn't the nation that refuses to let go of the past and enter the modern day... Oh, and Janpia, South Marjarbles wants to pass off a condemnation because they were sunk by a blockade, but they are convinced that the KTO is evil because of that, rather than just Janpia alone... Which is odd. So like the good old days."

Rep. Helmin:"As from what the Kalingrad has told me, those Marajarbian ships sunk despite countless of warnings from a Helgo-Class Corvette. I would recommend that we move on to grave or better topics than a third rate nation which cannot do anything at all. As history proves, their condemnation has nothing at all"

He then adjusted his papers, and continues

Rep. Helmin:"As for the matters of the recent attempted assassination, I agree that it must be investigated so that the alliance can act accordingly in the same narrative. Afterall, we are there for peace"