Axis versus Allies (Planning, OOC, Invite Only)

[The Selkie]

Okay, so.

On second thought, I'm going to bounce out of this roleplay - I'm not experienced with WW2 knowledge as much as I would be in a modern setting. I decided to check it out because a friend (PE) asked me to. It's better I keep the amount of roleplays I am in to a minimum just on the basis of time-consumption alone. I'm writing a novel and continuing a roleplay while also balancing RL work and my social life. I want my work to be as good as possible on all 4 of those aspects, thank you for the opportunity, This roleplay is seemingly going places and I hope all those taking part enjoy the hell out of it.

Sad to hear that. It was a pleasure, IG. Good luck with the novel and see ya around!

Thanks!
Busy, yes, maybe even with the trade between both nations (I am already seeing me draw a trade matrix), but not as open as for example the German-Austrian Border. Maybe even with the odd railway bridge.

Now, PE already set the number at 15 million on the continent, you already took 100,000, though I would like to claim at least 5 million for the various nations from Auwalt to Hrohasa - after all, we need to give Ahua people to be mad about and if it is only a few dozen, no one's going to be giving a damn.

No problem!
Why am I know picturing some San Ysidro/Tijuana-style checkpoint with a Hohenzollern Bridge-style railroad bridge next to it between Taihunbai and Vivares ...? ^^ But indeed, trade will be much of a thing - I've already listed a few data on the Citimerese economy in this thread, so a trade matrix will certainly be inevitable to be drawn soon. ^^

Yeah, that's a thought I've included into my consideration. 100,000 people might be a minority large enough to be able to make sure to get their voice heard in a country with little over 13 million people, but unlikely to form a significant political block. Likewise, a country more than three times as large will require a few hundred thousands to a million at minimum for the Ahuan government to become aware, let alone mad of them.
I'm also considering letting some live in my other nations, but I'm not sure as to how many as of yet, and where.

Sounds like a fun image. ; )

Indeed, that was one of the thoughts behind the number - and by far the most of the five million are going to be living in Ahua itself, where there is a slight problem of the economic variety as well...
As for having them live in other nations of yours, I would like to wait for PE's go-ahead, but from my end, do it. Though "Bergian Diaspora" will not be counted in the number of 15 million ( ; ) ).

[Port Ember]

Well I am all for spreading the Bergians aacross the world! Just let me know where will you put them, and in what numbers please. I wish to continue building the Bergian lore well into MT (where 99.99% of my lore and effort is placed on a good day), so that I will need. And yes, like Selks said, if those nations are not in Aranna, it wont count towards the 15 mil stat. This is fine because there is 15 mil Bergians in Aranna, but world wide its a higher number.

[Carlotina]

Sounds like a fun image. ; )

Indeed, that was one of the thoughts behind the number - and by far the most of the five million are going to be living in Ahua itself, where there is a slight problem of the economic variety as well...
As for having them live in other nations of yours, I would like to wait for PE's go-ahead, but from my end, do it. Though "Bergian Diaspora" will not be counted in the number of 15 million ( ; ) ).

Well I am all for spreading the Bergians aacross the world! Just let me know where will you put them, and in what numbers please. I wish to continue building the Bergian lore well into MT (where 99.99% of my lore and effort is placed on a good day), so that I will need. And yes, like Selks said, if those nations are not in Aranna, it wont count towards the 15 mil stat. This is fine because there is 15 mil Bergians in Aranna, but world wide its a higher number.

Innit? Now I'm thinking of how a Citimerese city would typically be built like ... ^^

So, Bergians who don't live in Aranna are not going to be counted into the number of Bergians in Aranna ...? Paint me shocked. Fun aside, I haven't made a final decision on that as of now, but should I get to it, I will state it right here. ^^ Might be interesting to know a bit more about culture and language of the Bergians beforehand (or do they rather tend to adapt to the culture of the place they're currently living in?), but it's certain, that something will come. ^^
And yeah, Selks, the economic diversity is quite an issue ... we'd have to find things either Citimere has little of and Hrohasa or other places have much of, or vice versa ...

[Port Ember]

Well, I cant really share their ins and outs just yet.. I did flesh their culture and ways, yet Selks is busy doing a rewrite of my work in order to fit in with Aranna. He says itl be done soon though

[The Selkie]

Well, I cant really share their ins and outs just yet.. I did flesh their culture and ways, yet Selks is busy doing a rewrite of my work in order to fit in with Aranna. He says itl be done soon though

I am aiming for either today or tomorrow, but it will be done.

Sounds like a fun image. ; )

Indeed, that was one of the thoughts behind the number - and by far the most of the five million are going to be living in Ahua itself, where there is a slight problem of the economic variety as well...
As for having them live in other nations of yours, I would like to wait for PE's go-ahead, but from my end, do it. Though "Bergian Diaspora" will not be counted in the number of 15 million ( ; ) ).

Well I am all for spreading the Bergians aacross the world! Just let me know where will you put them, and in what numbers please. I wish to continue building the Bergian lore well into MT (where 99.99% of my lore and effort is placed on a good day), so that I will need. And yes, like Selks said, if those nations are not in Aranna, it wont count towards the 15 mil stat. This is fine because there is 15 mil Bergians in Aranna, but world wide its a higher number.

Innit? Now I'm thinking of how a Citimerese city would typically be built like ... ^^

So, Bergians who don't live in Aranna are not going to be counted into the number of Bergians in Aranna ...? Paint me shocked. Fun aside, I haven't made a final decision on that as of now, but should I get to it, I will state it right here. ^^ Might be interesting to know a bit more about culture and language of the Bergians beforehand (or do they rather tend to adapt to the culture of the place they're currently living in?), but it's certain, that something will come. ^^
And yeah, Selks, the economic diversity is quite an issue ... we'd have to find things either Citimere has little of and Hrohasa or other places have much of, or vice versa ...

The only major thing resource wise, which I have, is, that the area from Eyssenstad (Teressien) to Kailarem (Dousatel) is rich in iron ore (don't ask me which variety), while the area from Sykane (Teressien) to Kohlerstad (Auwalt) is rich in coal. What I was thinking about as well was whaling, that one route whales like to take leads them from Citimere along the coast of Hrohasa and through the Anacrean Channel and the Aibian Gap (I find the names cool) into more northern waters.
Everything else is also pending what AA has in mind for Mandanda and which evil things I have in mind for Aib, Ahua and Auwalt. ; )
One thing's for certain, though: We won't die of a lack of hydroelectrical power.

[The Selkie]

All right, party people!
First of all, my apologies for the double post.
Second of all, the first parts of the first drafts for the Bergians are up for your reading pleasures. Please tell me, what you all, and especially you, PE, think.
Though, please keep in mind, that this article will be enlarged more and more over the day.

mfg,
Selks

[Carlotina]

The only major thing resource wise, which I have, is, that the area from Eyssenstad (Teressien) to Kailarem (Dousatel) is rich in iron ore (don't ask me which variety), while the area from Sykane (Teressien) to Kohlerstad (Auwalt) is rich in coal. What I was thinking about as well was whaling, that one route whales like to take leads them from Citimere along the coast of Hrohasa and through the Anacrean Channel and the Aibian Gap (I find the names cool) into more northern waters.
Everything else is also pending what AA has in mind for Mandanda and which evil things I have in mind for Aib, Ahua and Auwalt. ; )
One thing's for certain, though: We won't die of a lack of hydroelectrical power.

Hm, iron and coal are something Citimere isn't exactly poor at, either, but the whaling thing certainly sounds like a plan (and the names indeed sound cool)! What about precious metals? Or have these been washed ashore somewhere between Traverse and Leuda by now?
And yeah, we will have to wait for Astares and whatever he might plan.

All right, party people!
First of all, my apologies for the double post.
Second of all, the first parts of the first drafts for the Bergians are up for your reading pleasures. Please tell me, what you all, and especially you, PE, think.
Though, please keep in mind, that this article will be enlarged more and more over the day.

mfg,
Selks

Sounds good so far, to me at least! I'm curious as to what PE thinks, and how enlarged it will be. ^^

[Astares Amauricanum]

Thanks for waiting for me guys, but after some thoughts, I'm maybe thinking pulling out of the RP. I mean, for now, I'm way far behind you all in terms of political and economic goals, so I feel I won't be able to live up to the standards this RP wants to reach.
That, and I may be taken in the next few months by RL college work and my thesis.

[The Selkie]

The only major thing resource wise, which I have, is, that the area from Eyssenstad (Teressien) to Kailarem (Dousatel) is rich in iron ore (don't ask me which variety), while the area from Sykane (Teressien) to Kohlerstad (Auwalt) is rich in coal. What I was thinking about as well was whaling, that one route whales like to take leads them from Citimere along the coast of Hrohasa and through the Anacrean Channel and the Aibian Gap (I find the names cool) into more northern waters.
Everything else is also pending what AA has in mind for Mandanda and which evil things I have in mind for Aib, Ahua and Auwalt. ; )
One thing's for certain, though: We won't die of a lack of hydroelectrical power.

Hm, iron and coal are something Citimere isn't exactly poor at, either, but the whaling thing certainly sounds like a plan (and the names indeed sound cool)! What about precious metals? Or have these been washed ashore somewhere between Traverse and Leuda by now?
And yeah, we will have to wait for Astares and whatever he might plan.

All right, party people!
First of all, my apologies for the double post.
Second of all, the first parts of the first drafts for the Bergians are up for your reading pleasures. Please tell me, what you all, and especially you, PE, think.
Though, please keep in mind, that this article will be enlarged more and more over the day.

mfg,
Selks

Sounds good so far, to me at least! I'm curious as to what PE thinks, and how enlarged it will be. ^^

Well, I haven't thought about precious metals, but if you would want a few deposits of something a bit more valuable then iron, we could certainly arrange for something - maybe not gold or silver, but stuff like bauxite, chromium and so on. We'll think something up, that might even interest a Mervayan trade partner. ; )

Thanks for waiting for me guys, but after some thoughts, I'm maybe thinking pulling out of the RP. I mean, for now, I'm way far behind you all in terms of political and economic goals, so I feel I won't be able to live up to the standards this RP wants to reach.
That, and I may be taken in the next few months by RL college work and my thesis.

I am sad to hear that. Of course, RL is more important.
Should we keep the seat warm for you?

[USG Security Corporation]

Hello!

I have been given the 'green light' by Selkie and PE to join. My forces will be auxiliaries contracted to Port Ember's forces.

I will work on my orbat in a couple days but my force will consist of a small air wing of a few squadrons; 12,000 personnel consisting mostly of light infantry, commandos, bike mounted scouts, light artillery, and support. The heaviest gear will be one battalion of some light tanks, and other assorted armored vehicles.

[The Selkie]

Hello!

I have been given the 'green light' by Selkie and PE to join. My forces will be auxiliaries contracted to Port Ember's forces.

I will work on my orbat in a couple days but my force will consist of a small air wing of a few squadrons; 12,000 personnel consisting mostly of light infantry, commandos, bike mounted scouts, light artillery, and support. The heaviest gear will be one battalion of some light tanks, and other assorted armored vehicles.

Hello and welcome aboard!
Indeed, we both have given you the permission to join and you are on the list. ; )

Quick question, though: Can your mercenaries be hired by everyone with the necessary change or are there ethical or political limitations?

[The Chuck]

Hello!

I have been given the 'green light' by Selkie and PE to join. My forces will be auxiliaries contracted to Port Ember's forces.

I will work on my orbat in a couple days but my force will consist of a small air wing of a few squadrons; 12,000 personnel consisting mostly of light infantry, commandos, bike mounted scouts, light artillery, and support. The heaviest gear will be one battalion of some light tanks, and other assorted armored vehicles.

Hello and welcome aboard!
Indeed, we both have given you the permission to join and you are on the list. ; )

Quick question, though: Can your mercenaries be hired by everyone with the necessary change or are there ethical or political limitations?

This is indeed a good question since if Selks is going to kick off the maritime wolf pack "fun", civilian mercantile companies within my nation might be seeking armed escorts from both local and foreign mercenary sources.

[Astares Amauricanum]

Okay everyone,
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So, without further ado...
the map updated: https://i.ibb.co/CpcPxqM/CjmsV5B.jpg

[The Selkie]

Okay everyone,
I have the pleasure to announce that I have finally joined the merry word of image hosting sites.

So, without further ado...
the map updated: https://i.ibb.co/CpcPxqM/CjmsV5B.jpg

Welcome! And lookin' good! I'll include it as soon as we have a few more changes.

[USG Security Corporation]

Quick question, though: Can your mercenaries be hired by everyone with the necessary change or are there ethical or political limitations?

This is indeed a good question since if Selks is going to kick off the maritime wolf pack "fun", civilian mercantile companies within my nation might be seeking armed escorts from both local and foreign mercenary sources.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Do the Uli-Schwyz (they weren't called the USGSC until 2012) have ethics? If that's the question then, yes, to a certain extent.

They won't contract to communist or hardline Marxist clients nor to national socialists or extreme right wing fascists, but in between that range is a lot of grey area.

For a major war contract, the whole regiment is mobilized (what I described earlier). They don't possess heavy armor or naval elements. Never have, never will. (Not through PMT era, anyway.)

They won't split off to take on multiple contracts, especially at the risk of taking opposing contracts against fellow Uli units in the same conflict. There are exceptions if it is an ally of the client, but at the first sign of dissension between those allies, their duty is to the primary client.

Hope that answers the questions.

[Danceria]

Quick question, where the heck is Africa, or the roughest equation to?

[Carlotina]

Well, I haven't thought about precious metals, but if you would want a few deposits of something a bit more valuable then iron, we could certainly arrange for something - maybe not gold or silver, but stuff like bauxite, chromium and so on. We'll think something up, that might even interest a Mervayan trade partner. ; )

Sounds good! Gold and silver might be something I can easily make the Carlotinians deliver, but bauxite, chromium, and other things are certainly metals that might cross the weird border control points that keep stuck in my head. ^^
I might need a bit of time to think of more items. Should you, or anyone else, have more ideas for the trade matrix, fire away! ^^

Okay everyone,
I have the pleasure to announce that I have finally joined the merry word of image hosting sites.

So, without further ado...
the map updated: https://i.ibb.co/CpcPxqM/CjmsV5B.jpg

Welcome to our world! ^^ Looks good! So are we correct in assuming, that you might stay with us? ^^

[The Selkie]

Well, I haven't thought about precious metals, but if you would want a few deposits of something a bit more valuable then iron, we could certainly arrange for something - maybe not gold or silver, but stuff like bauxite, chromium and so on. We'll think something up, that might even interest a Mervayan trade partner. ; )

Sounds good! Gold and silver might be something I can easily make the Carlotinians deliver, but bauxite, chromium, and other things are certainly metals that might cross the weird border control points that keep stuck in my head. ^^
I might need a bit of time to think of more items. Should you, or anyone else, have more ideas for the trade matrix, fire away! ^^

[...]

Oh, then I am at least not the only one, who keeps on imagining that railway bridge! : D
Sounds good to my ears, though we seriously need to spend some thoughts onto who trades what with whom.

Quick question, where the heck is Africa, or the roughest equation to?

If you want to place a landmass nearby, which would have "African Climate", then I must remind you, that Africa is a continent and has quite a diverse climate. So, what exactly did you have in mind?
(And before you ask, no, the actual continent of Africa is literal worlds away.)

This is indeed a good question since if Selks is going to kick off the maritime wolf pack "fun", civilian mercantile companies within my nation might be seeking armed escorts from both local and foreign mercenary sources.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Do the Uli-Schwyz (they weren't called the USGSC until 2012) have ethics? If that's the question then, yes, to a certain extent.

They won't contract to communist or hardline Marxist clients nor to national socialists or extreme right wing fascists, but in between that range is a lot of grey area.

For a major war contract, the whole regiment is mobilized (what I described earlier). They don't possess heavy armor or naval elements. Never have, never will. (Not through PMT era, anyway.)

They won't split off to take on multiple contracts, especially at the risk of taking opposing contracts against fellow Uli units in the same conflict. There are exceptions if it is an ally of the client, but at the first sign of dissension between those allies, their duty is to the primary client.

Hope that answers the questions.

That answers my question, yes. Thank you very much.

[Danceria]

If you want to place a landmass nearby, which would have "African Climate", then I must remind you, that Africa is a continent and has quite a diverse climate. So, what exactly did you have in mind?
(And before you ask, no, the actual continent of Africa is literal worlds away.)

I was thinking a colony having to decide between it's overlord and the (potential) new rising power. Unless this is a "Europe" only war, then I'll have to re-punt.

[The Selkie]

If you want to place a landmass nearby, which would have "African Climate", then I must remind you, that Africa is a continent and has quite a diverse climate. So, what exactly did you have in mind?
(And before you ask, no, the actual continent of Africa is literal worlds away.)

I was thinking a colony having to decide between it's overlord and the (potential) new rising power. Unless this is a "Europe" only war, then I'll have to re-punt.

Most of the action is supposed to take place on Aranna or in the waters around it and we have enough expeditionary forces coming in as is, so... who's colony would that be anyway?

[USG Security Corporation]

Something I meant to add in regarding your ethics question: In current day, the Uli-Schwyz will not tolerate war crimes against civilians or POWs. They will do everything including up to breaking a contract to stop such actions. However, they were still in the early stages of forming that policy during this WW2 era.

Also a question: with the intention of setting a limit to 'expeditionary forces', does that mean that you expect that most of the warring armies on Aranna will originate from within Arannan nations?

[The Chuck]

Something I meant to add in regarding your ethics question: In current day, the Uli-Schwyz will not tolerate war crimes against civilians or POWs. They will do everything including up to breaking a contract to stop such actions. However, they were still in the early stages of forming that policy during this WW2 era.

Also a question: with the intention of setting a limit to 'expeditionary forces', does that mean that you expect that most of the warring armies on Aranna will originate from within Arannan nations?

Should note that if the Uli-Schwyz needs logistical assistance or something similar, we might be able to establish a mutually beneficial contract. There are plenty of merchant vessels that will be plying the waters of this conflict to keep the flow of coin and materials flowing.

[USG Security Corporation]

Something I meant to add in regarding your ethics question: In current day, the Uli-Schwyz will not tolerate war crimes against civilians or POWs. They will do everything including up to breaking a contract to stop such actions. However, they were still in the early stages of forming that policy during this WW2 era.

Also a question: with the intention of setting a limit to 'expeditionary forces', does that mean that you expect that most of the warring armies on Aranna will originate from within Arannan nations?

Should note that if the Uli-Schwyz needs logistical assistance or something similar, we might be able to establish a mutually beneficial contract. There are plenty of merchant vessels that will be plying the waters of this conflict to keep the flow of coin and materials flowing.

I gathered that from your earlier post and I appreciate the offer. If our client, Port Ember, is unable to fully supply us, then we would need to find a secondary logistical supply, which might involve sub-contracting your merchant fleet. Other than financial compensation, I don't know what reciprocal benefit we could offer.

[The Selkie]

Should note that if the Uli-Schwyz needs logistical assistance or something similar, we might be able to establish a mutually beneficial contract. There are plenty of merchant vessels that will be plying the waters of this conflict to keep the flow of coin and materials flowing.

I gathered that from your earlier post and I appreciate the offer. If our client, Port Ember, is unable to fully supply us, then we would need to find a secondary logistical supply, which might involve sub-contracting your merchant fleet. Other than financial compensation, I don't know what reciprocal benefit we could offer.

Future discounts? ; )

As for the other question, indeed, that is the plan. If you look at the map (update planned for Sunday), we have placeholder nations, which I asked the participants to develop how they see fit and thus create the continent as a collection of very different powers, who will meet and clash.
This thread is mostly to iron out details about the continent and the nations, for example, where do we find which resources, why is Ahua fascist, which colour do the panties of the underwear of the Aibian Leader's wife have traditionally, how did the different nations interact with each other in the past and how do they do that now, such things.
I plan to use this War-RP as a starting point for maybe more RPs in the future, too.

(P.S.: It's green. ; ))

[Port Ember]

Right, so after having a few eureka moments, and getting some inputs from a few mentors, I have decided to change my lore a teensy bit.

The earlier history of The Ember Archipelago being a colony of Great Britian remains, yet it changes during World War 1 - where the islands revolts against their overlords in an event known as the Valentines Revolt. So, nearing 1940, here is what you need to know about the young Republic:

The Ember Archipelago was first settled by runaway slaves and other assorted fugitives around 1200ad. These folk established the Ember Kingdom. This period was marred by constant civil war and bloodshed.

- Around 1400ad, the UK colonised the islands after swatting the local kingdom like flies. This saw in a period of explosive growth as European sailors and traders flocked to the islands en masse. The islands quickly became a haven for pirates and other men of ill repute, basically running the colony in all but name.

- Around 1600, when the "Crown" tried to make an example of the pirates, things got bloody and the pirates revolted, capturing their home for themselves, setting up what is known as a "Pirate Republic", run by a Consortium of influential underworld lads.

- The Crown managed to quell the troublemakes only a 100 years later, re-establishing the Colony.

- Fast forward to WW1 - the Valentines Revolt disposes the Crown yet again, and establishes The Republic of Port Ember.

- Today (1940), The Republic has never attempted to show muscle on the international scale, although they are very connected to it, having established far reaching trade networks. We are a Parliamentary Republic, and hardliner capitalists. We believe in ultimate freedom for our citizens and for our trade networks. Situated within the Northern Ocean, our closest friends (both geographically and politically is The Chuck.

That's the highlights! Feel free to ask more of interested.

So on that note, which nation would be trading partners/friends with PE by 1940?