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Postby Sorgan » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:36 am

To:Al-Quidah
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If you find yourselves entangled in a war we can not help in the least. We have cut back spending (Extremly) to the point where we can't invade other countries or protect others. We are sorry but if you engage in war all we can do is deploy roughly around 200 troops and a tank or 2. Once again many apolgizes to you.




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Postby Al Quidah » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:41 am

Sorgan wrote:To:Al-Quidah
From:The Vice President of Sorgan

If you find yourselves entangled in a war we can not help in the least. We have cut back spending (Extremly) to the point where we can't invade other countries or protect others. We are sorry but if you engage in war all we can do is deploy roughly around 200 troops and a tank or 2. Once again many apolgizes to you.




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I understand, although, Al-Quidah would like to send you about 40,000 soliders, fully maintained and payed for by Al-Quidah as military aid.
Soliders: 24,532,300
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Postby Sorgan » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:44 am

To:Al-Quidah
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Thank you for very much! We are very happy that you would provide protection for our country. Like we said we couldn't protect our country very well do to underfunded military.



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Postby Al Quidah » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:50 am

Sorgan wrote:To:Al-Quidah
From:The Vice president of Sorgan

Thank you for very much! We are very happy that you would provide protection for our country. Like we said we couldn't protect our country very well do to underfunded military.



Signed,Vice President Pink Rogers


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We will always protect NaTO members. The solider will arrive in a few days.
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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:01 am

Sorgan wrote:To:Al-Quidah
From:The Vice President of Sorgan

If you find yourselves entangled in a war we can not help in the least. We have cut back spending (Extremly) to the point where we can't invade other countries or protect others. We are sorry but if you engage in war all we can do is deploy roughly around 200 troops and a tank or 2. Once again many apolgizes to you.




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Signed,The vice president of sorgan, Pink Rogers

Dear: NaTO memebers
If any of you need military help, my country will be happy to hep you. Our spending is on the rise. Right now it is at $2,172,621,688,602.75, and our surplus is at $55,097,300,940.41. We have moved some resorced from our surplus into our military (which is the reason the surplus is so low, but we hope it will rise along with the defence budget.)
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Postby Augmark » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:12 am

Augmark would like to supply 10 F-22 Raptors to Sorgan, and 10 to Al-Quidah, in exchange for expanded business oportunities in your respected nations.

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Postby Sorgan » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:45 am

Augmark wrote:Augmark would like to supply 10 F-22 Raptors to Sorgan, and 10 to Al-Quidah, in exchange for expanded business oportunities in your respected nations.

Thank you. This proposal is accepted Sorgans Main idustries:Mining,Book Publishing,And arms manufacturement

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Postby Automagfreek » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:22 pm

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the New Gothic Empire of Automagfreek~

As a founding memberstate of the New Alliance and Treaty Organization, we are quite angered to see the use of our acronym by this new alliance. We are not satisfied with the lower case "a", and we demand that the name of this alliance be changed immediately. We will not have the legacy and reputation of NATO be confused with that of this "NaTO", and if you do not comply swiftly then we will make you.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:23 pm

OOC: We left the alliance. Mind taking our name off?
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Postby Metallic Slumber » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:25 pm

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Postby Sorgan » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:31 pm

Automagfreek wrote:~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the New Gothic Empire of Automagfreek~

As a founding memberstate of the New Alliance and Treaty Organization, we are quite angered to see the use of our acronym by this new alliance. We are not satisfied with the lower case "a", and we demand that the name of this alliance be changed immediately. We will not have the legacy and reputation of NATO be confused with that of this "NaTO", and if you do not comply swiftly then we will make you.


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OOC:Sorry about this we are just gonna make an entirley new Alliance (i hope) called (UNTG United Nations Trade Group or Something along that lines becuase i don't really support torture)

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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:10 pm

Sorgan wrote:
Automagfreek wrote:~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the New Gothic Empire of Automagfreek~

As a founding memberstate of the New Alliance and Treaty Organization, we are quite angered to see the use of our acronym by this new alliance. We are not satisfied with the lower case "a", and we demand that the name of this alliance be changed immediately. We will not have the legacy and reputation of NATO be confused with that of this "NaTO", and if you do not comply swiftly then we will make you.


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OOC:Sorry about this we are just gonna make an entirley new Alliance (i hope) called (UNTG United Nations Trade Group or Something along that lines becuase i don't really support torture)

I agree with this post (my nation in game does not support torture)...also if the name isnt changed, I will leave the "allaince"
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Postby Lizardiar » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:34 pm

Sorry for cluttering, but are you guys in this? There is someone in it who says that you are.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3697
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Postby Questers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:40 pm

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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:45 pm

I leave NaTO and hope that their allaince stands strong and firm, what ever changes they make make. I still support them though, and condem anyone that attacks them because of their views (and in such case will always sde with NaTO (or what ever they will call them self). This is NOT due to Questers post. If Quester does go to war with NaTO, Kelewann will support NaTO in the war. We also request that Questers take back their decleration declaring NaTO dispearse, because all nations have the right to form allainces and call them selfs names (unless the nameabrivation is already taken). Also NaTO is currently treying to figure out what they are going to do,and this just adds more confusion. Also this is not something Questers should be a part of. Auto and NaTO and CAG are the only people who should be discusing things.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:53 pm

Nothing was said about war, just retribution. Also no, nation-states do not have "rights", they have projection capacities. That is it. People have rights but nation-states do not.
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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:56 pm

Questers wrote:Nothing was said about war, just retribution. Also no, nation-states do not have "rights", they have projection capacities. That is it. People have rights but nation-states do not.

ooc:
A) you implied it
B) in that sence no one has any rights then, they just have "projection capacities"
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:10 pm

Kelewann wrote:I leave NaTO and hope that their allaince stands strong and firm, what ever changes they make make. I still support them though, and condem anyone that attacks them because of their views (and in such case will always sde with NaTO (or what ever they will call them self). This is NOT due to Questers post. If Quester does go to war with NaTO, Kelewann will support NaTO in the war. We also request that Questers take back their decleration declaring NaTO dispearse, because all nations have the right to form allainces and call them selfs names (unless the nameabrivation is already taken). Also NaTO is currently treying to figure out what they are going to do,and this just adds more confusion. Also this is not something Questers should be a part of. Auto and NaTO and CAG are the only people who should be discusing things.
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Astaris, Leader of kelewann


FROM THE DESK OF THE SUPREME EMPEROR
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS

I hope that you know whatever "help" you sent to the Falseified "NaTO" organization would be futile as if Questers goes to war with them, no matter how much help you send, it will get slaughtered. The same goes with if the Freeks go to war with the Falseified "NaTO" organization. Both of these illustrious Nations (Questers and Automagfreek) could easily wipe out your Torture Organization with the greatest of ease on their own. If they join forces, you all should just bend over and kiss your own backsides goodbye.

The Shazbotdom Empire, while not going to directly get involved, will financially and morally support the illustrious leaders of Questers and Automagfreek in their campaign to wipe out the scourge that is the "New Associated Torture Organization".
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Postby Questers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:24 pm

Kelewann wrote:
Questers wrote:Nothing was said about war, just retribution. Also no, nation-states do not have "rights", they have projection capacities. That is it. People have rights but nation-states do not.

ooc:
A) you implied it
B) in that sence no one has any rights then, they just have "projection capacities"

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a. ) The art of politics is about implying things to the extent you can afterwards deny you explicitly said anything.
b. ) Well, yeah, natural rights are debatable, but there's no reason to suggest a state ought to have any natural rights of its own. The people in the state are a different matter.]
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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:28 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Kelewann wrote:I leave NaTO and hope that their allaince stands strong and firm, what ever changes they make make. I still support them though, and condem anyone that attacks them because of their views (and in such case will always sde with NaTO (or what ever they will call them self). This is NOT due to Questers post. If Quester does go to war with NaTO, Kelewann will support NaTO in the war. We also request that Questers take back their decleration declaring NaTO dispearse, because all nations have the right to form allainces and call them selfs names (unless the nameabrivation is already taken). Also NaTO is currently treying to figure out what they are going to do,and this just adds more confusion. Also this is not something Questers should be a part of. Auto and NaTO and CAG are the only people who should be discusing things.
Sincerly
Astaris, Leader of kelewann


FROM THE DESK OF THE SUPREME EMPEROR
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS

I hope that you know whatever "help" you sent to the Falseified "NaTO" organization would be futile as if Questers goes to war with them, no matter how much help you send, it will get slaughtered. The same goes with if the Freeks go to war with the Falseified "NaTO" organization. Both of these illustrious Nations (Questers and Automagfreek) could easily wipe out your Torture Organization with the greatest of ease on their own. If they join forces, you all should just bend over and kiss your own backsides goodbye.

The Shazbotdom Empire, while not going to directly get involved, will financially and morally support the illustrious leaders of Questers and Automagfreek in their campaign to wipe out the scourge that is the "New Associated Torture Organization".


Dear: MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
we agree that Automagfreek could wipe NaTO out. If that war came I would stay out of it, because Automagfreek has a good reason to go to war with them. Questers on the other hand does not (unless he is also a part of the origonla NATO in which then we appologize for our message). If he is however NOT a part of the origional NATO then he has no reason to interfeer for people are already changing ext.
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ooc: about the new post
b) actually if the state has no right then why should its citizens? if a citizen has a right it is because the nation allows that citizen to have it.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:35 pm

[OOC: Heh, political philosophy. It isn't true that the state allows the citizen to have rights: the state is just an organisational apparatus. Societies without states have existed for periods of time and the people there have had rights -- but again, natural rights are debatable, but it's wrong to think that a State is responsible for the rights of its citizens (Rather, the citizens are responsible for the state...) and secondly that a State can act -- or ought to have the right to act -- independently of the citizenry.]
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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:38 pm

Questers wrote:[OOC: Heh, political philosophy. It isn't true that the state allows the citizen to have rights: the state is just an organisational apparatus. Societies without states have existed for periods of time and the people there have had rights -- but again, natural rights are debatable, but it's wrong to think that a State is responsible for the rights of its citizens (Rather, the citizens are responsible for the state...) and secondly that a State can act -- or ought to have the right to act -- independently of the citizenry.]

OOC: what is one society that has had No govt what so ever and had their citizen's have naturla rights?...if you can prove one I will willing say that I am wrong and that you are right.
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Postby Questers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:41 pm

Kelewann wrote:
Questers wrote:[OOC: Heh, political philosophy. It isn't true that the state allows the citizen to have rights: the state is just an organisational apparatus. Societies without states have existed for periods of time and the people there have had rights -- but again, natural rights are debatable, but it's wrong to think that a State is responsible for the rights of its citizens (Rather, the citizens are responsible for the state...) and secondly that a State can act -- or ought to have the right to act -- independently of the citizenry.]

OOC: what is one society that has had No govt what so ever and had their citizen's have naturla rights?...if you can prove one I will willing say that I am wrong and that you are right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an ... ommunities

Sure, they're historical, but no state has ever lasted forever and I doubt one ever will.
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Postby Kelewann » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:49 pm

Questers wrote:
Kelewann wrote:
Questers wrote:[OOC: Heh, political philosophy. It isn't true that the state allows the citizen to have rights: the state is just an organisational apparatus. Societies without states have existed for periods of time and the people there have had rights -- but again, natural rights are debatable, but it's wrong to think that a State is responsible for the rights of its citizens (Rather, the citizens are responsible for the state...) and secondly that a State can act -- or ought to have the right to act -- independently of the citizenry.]

OOC: what is one society that has had No govt what so ever and had their citizen's have naturla rights?...if you can prove one I will willing say that I am wrong and that you are right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_an ... ommunities

Sure, they're historical, but no state has ever lasted forever and I doubt one ever will.

ooc: I am wrong about my last post. You were correct.
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Thanks : p
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