ALL OF MONOFF CONVERTS TO Nazarene Christian

[Seculartopia]

To:Monoff
From:Hal Newton

We implore you to either allow minorities to practice their religion at least, though preferably with seperation of church and state to prevent the government from forcing religion on its people. In any case, we will gladly accept ANY refugees that want to leave Monoff.

Sincerely,
Hal Newton

[Monoff]

Most the population was Nazarene. Belovika came on the TV. “Men, Woman of Monoff. This is a horrible action by foreign devils. I declare that we have no choice but to fight this.” Kleav then walked in front of the cameras. “I declare that Monoff can deploy Militias to aid Monoffian soldiers in keeping the other religions of people in are nation.”
You could hear Monoffians cheering.

[Avenio]

The Most Serene Republic of Avenio

Official Telegram - Published by the Cultural Ministry Subcommittee on Official Publications

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To: The Militarized State of Monoff
From: The Most Serene Republic of Avenio - Office of the Prime Minister - Office of the Minister of International Affairs
Subject: The Forced Conversion of Monoff

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Seeing as The Militzarized State shows a distinct unwillingness to comply with international pressure, The Most Serene Republic feels it only necessary to place a Human Rights Blacklist measure upon all Monoffan goods and services, comprising of the distribution of letters of marque to all local branches of the People's Soviet Militia, legalizing and encouraging the attack, seizure and sinking of all Monoffan flagged vessels within Avenese territorial waters.

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Signed,

Prime Minister

Angèle Dubois



International Affairs Minister

Jean Desessard

[Seculartopia]

Most the population was Nazarene. Belovika came on the TV. “Men, Woman of Monoff. This is a horrible action by foreign devils. I declare that we have no choice but to fight this.” Kleav then walked in front of the cameras. “I declare that Monoff can deploy Militias to aid Monoffian soldiers in keeping the other religions of people in are nation.”
You could hear Monoffians cheering.

To:Monoff
From:Hal Newton

If you will not let refugees leave your country, then we advocate for their rights as human beings. Hearing this,my Cabinet has applied a full tade embargo and condemnation in hopes that Monoff will comply. Please note further diplomatic actions will be taken if we hear of any abuse towards the minority or outlawed religions.

Sincerely,
Hal Newton

[South East Europe]

OOC: Nobody your size can deploy 30,000,000 troops anywhere. Honestly please be reasonable.

OOC: Since that is less than 2% of my nations total population, it is being reasonable. The United States of America, at one time, had 8,000,000 of its people deployed overseas. My population is 6.3 times the current population of the USA. In the late 1930's to the early 1940's, I would expect that the USA was far less than the current population of the USA. When my mother was born in 1951, the world population was only 3 to 4 billion people.

[Avenio]

OOC: Nobody your size can deploy 30,000,000 troops anywhere. Honestly please be reasonable.

OOC: Since that is less than 2% of my nations total population, it is being reasonable. The United States of America, at one time, had 8,000,000 of its people deployed overseas. My population is 6.3 times the current population of the USA. In the late 1930's to the early 1940's, I would expect that the USA was far less than the current population of the USA. When my mother was born in 1951, the world population was only 3 to 4 billion people.

((OOC: I think what he means is that the immediate deployment of thirty million troops would be a logistical nightmare, especially if you want to accomplish it quickly.))

[Seculartopia]

OOC: Nobody your size can deploy 30,000,000 troops anywhere. Honestly please be reasonable.

OOC: Since that is less than 2% of my nations total population, it is being reasonable. The United States of America, at one time, had 8,000,000 of its people deployed overseas. My population is 6.3 times the current population of the USA. In the late 1930's to the early 1940's, I would expect that the USA was far less than the current population of the USA. When my mother was born in 1951, the world population was only 3 to 4 billion people.

OOC:Ya, but that was during a rough wartime economy, i bet. I doubt if you could maintain that.

[South East Europe]

OOC: Nobody your size can deploy 30,000,000 troops anywhere. Honestly please be reasonable.

OOC: Since that is less than 2% of my nations total population, it is being reasonable. The United States of America, at one time, had 8,000,000 of its people deployed overseas. My population is 6.3 times the current population of the USA. In the late 1930's to the early 1940's, I would expect that the USA was far less than the current population of the USA. When my mother was born in 1951, the world population was only 3 to 4 billion people.

OOC:Ya, but that was during a rough wartime economy, i bet. I doubt if you could maintain that.

OOC: This is a rough wartime economy now. Also, it could easily be maintained because over 90% of my nations citizens would still be working.

[South East Europe]

((OOC: I think what he means is that the immediate deployment of thirty million troops would be a logistical nightmare, especially if you want to accomplish it quickly.))

OOC: There is virtually no bureaucracy in my nation because Chancellor Princess Adena Ryokun, Archbishop of Linistea, is the Military Commander and anything she wants done by the military will be done. Even drafts, if necessary.

[Vlack Sturm]

OOC: Who's invading Monoff?

[Monoff]

Monoff began its largest independent military build up since Worlds war 2. People were lined up for miles at recruiting stations. Mostly Nazarene Christian. There was to the amazement of most Monoffian a large amount of people from other religion joined. Mostly for the pay. Soldiers were deployed to maintain control over cities. Militias from Villages joined soldiers and the borders of Monoff became Militarized.

[South East Europe]

Monoff began its largest independent military build up since Worlds war 2. People were lined up for miles at recruiting stations. Mostly Nazarene Christian. There was to the amazement of most Monoffian a large amount of people from other religion joined. Mostly for the pay. Soldiers were deployed to maintain control over cities. Militias from Villages joined soldiers and the borders of Monoff became Militarized.

OOC: The borders? There are already soldiers within your nation.

The South East Europe soldiers within Monoff took this as an act of hostility and aggression. They began engaging any and all military personnel and property. Any Catholic they got to who wanted to get out of Monoff was given an airlift to South East Europe. One of the worlds largest fights for freedom had begun. Military patrols were closing in on the major cities of Monoff.

[United Gordonopia]

ooc: comment on southeast europe. Do you know how long it would take to mobilize 30 million troops, even at DEFCON 1? Months, even years with a modern military. the US had 5% in the military in the 1940's. That is in no way a viable example now. Technology and expenses have skyrocketed since then. Gone are the days of pumping fighters off the assembly lines every couple minutes. Gone are the days where a tank cost 450,000 (adjusted for inflation). Deploying a military that large would take a massive amount of time. In Militarism be Damned, I've only been able to deploy a little over 450,000 men, and its been a whole month. 30,000,000 would be like the U.S. saying its entire military (including reserves) was already on a boat towards China, and would arrive soon. It just can't be done.

[Avenio]

((OOC: I think what he means is that the immediate deployment of thirty million troops would be a logistical nightmare, especially if you want to accomplish it quickly.))

OOC: There is virtually no bureaucracy in my nation because Chancellor Princess Adena Ryokun, Archbishop of Linistea, is the Military Commander and anything she wants done by the military will be done. Even drafts, if necessary.

((OOC: Even without a bureaucratic system, it would take thousands of workers toiling around the clock for days to fuel, repair and launch the vessels needed to carry that many troops out of your nation, not to mention the great big chunk of the economy it would eat up requisitioning, packaging and transporting the millions of tonnes of petrol, food supplies, ammunition and other supplies needed for such a voyage.))

[Vlack Sturm]

To: Nations against Monoff
From: VSC Premier

Leave Monoff's territory, because VSC soldiers are in the area helping in an rebellion. Any action against my men will seen as an act of war towards the Vlack Sturm Confederacy.

Signed, Hans Von Schredder, Premier of the VSC

[South East Europe]

ooc: comment on southeast europe. Do you know how long it would take to mobilize 30 million troops, even at DEFCON 1? Months, even years with a modern military. the US had 5% in the military in the 1940's. That is in no way a viable example now. Technology and expenses have skyrocketed since then. Gone are the days of pumping fighters off the assembly lines every couple minutes. Gone are the days where a tank cost 450,000 (adjusted for inflation). Deploying a military that large would take a massive amount of time. In Militarism be Damned, I've only been able to deploy a little over 450,000 men, and its been a whole month. 30,000,000 would be like the U.S. saying its entire military (including reserves) was already on a boat towards China, and would arrive soon. It just can't be done.

OOC: There is absolutely no bureaucracy, so whatever the Chancellor wills is what shall be done. Also, expense are not an issue. South East Europe has spent virtually all of it's military funding to deploy all of the soldiers and will not be funding any other aspect of this war. There will be no extractions of any soldiers, only extractions of innocent Catholics. $118,000,000,000 would be able to do this.

[Monoff]

The order went out to shoot anyone trying to escape. They were considered traitors. Tanks poured down streets and Kleav Boricov was relocated to his underground bunker.

Belovika Kaufmann stayed in his royal church. “Why do they defy us?” He said to other clergy man. Soldiers surrounded this church.

[South East Europe]

((OOC: I think what he means is that the immediate deployment of thirty million troops would be a logistical nightmare, especially if you want to accomplish it quickly.))

OOC: There is virtually no bureaucracy in my nation because Chancellor Princess Adena Ryokun, Archbishop of Linistea, is the Military Commander and anything she wants done by the military will be done. Even drafts, if necessary.

((OOC: Even without a bureaucratic system, it would take thousands of workers toiling around the clock for days to fuel, repair and launch the vessels needed to carry that many troops out of your nation, not to mention the great big chunk of the economy it would eat up requisitioning, packaging and transporting the millions of tonnes of petrol, food supplies, ammunition and other supplies needed for such a voyage.))

OOC: We used most of the military funding and we do have hundreds of millions of workers and tens of thousands would be working in weapons and vehicle facilities. Any thing the military needs or wants, it takes so that should take half a day. And by RP timing, that would be a very short time. There are no military vehicles, only the ones to extract innocent Catholics and they are each provided with food supplies for a week. Any thing else that they require can be pillaged from any building. Any military vehicles have been taken from other militants by force.

[United Gordonopia]

ooc: comment on southeast europe. Do you know how long it would take to mobilize 30 million troops, even at DEFCON 1? Months, even years with a modern military. the US had 5% in the military in the 1940's. That is in no way a viable example now. Technology and expenses have skyrocketed since then. Gone are the days of pumping fighters off the assembly lines every couple minutes. Gone are the days where a tank cost 450,000 (adjusted for inflation). Deploying a military that large would take a massive amount of time. In Militarism be Damned, I've only been able to deploy a little over 450,000 men, and its been a whole month. 30,000,000 would be like the U.S. saying its entire military (including reserves) was already on a boat towards China, and would arrive soon. It just can't be done.

OOC: There is absolutely no bureaucracy, so whatever the Chancellor wills is what shall be done. Also, expense are not an issue. South East Europe has spent virtually all of it's military funding to deploy all of the soldiers and will not be funding any other aspect of this war. There will be no extractions of any soldiers, only extractions of innocent Catholics. $118,000,000,000 would be able to do this.

ooc: $118,000,000,000? Not even close. Iraq is costing the US billions every month, with only a few hundred thousand men. And it doesn't matter whether there's a bureaucracy or not. Just getting men onto ships, and transporting would be a NIGHTMARE. Consider that a large transport ship could carry a few thousand men. That would mean that you would need 10,000 transports. It would take weeks just to get men on the ships. Also, how do you already have men in his nation? Don't tell me you just auto spawned.

I'd like to point you to these three threads:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275828
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12342#p442218
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12342#p435202

[Fallsen]

occ: he may have meant 30.000.

Outside of Monoff those who have fled the country have adapted to their new lives, however several groups and in some cases, organizations are petitioning the governments of their respective countries to move against Monoff. While most of these organizations are considered radical and extreme, they along with the actions of South East Europe, do put a sharp edge on the threats of violence.

[South East Europe]

The order went out to shoot anyone trying to escape. They were considered traitors. Tanks poured down streets and Kleav Boricov was relocated to his underground bunker.

Belovika Kaufmann stayed in his royal church. “Why do they defy us?” He said to other clergy man. Soldiers surrounded this church.

The South East European soldiers were ordered to avoid engaging any church unless necessary. Any tanks that The South East European soldiers came across outside of the major cities were taken by force and used by The South East European Military. By this time, over 50,000 Catholics had been brought into South East Europe.

[Avenio]

OOC: We used most of the military funding and we do have hundreds of millions of workers and tens of thousands would be working in weapons and vehicle facilities. Any thing the military needs or wants, it takes so that should take half a day. And by RP timing, that would be a very short time. There are no military vehicles, only the ones to extract innocent Catholics and they are each provided with food supplies for a week. Any thing else that they require can be pillaged from any building. Any military vehicles have been taken from other militants by force.

((OOC: So you're going to essentially drop off thirty million troops in Monoff with no supply routes, air cover, strategic bombardment or anything? You do realize that, in theory, all Monoff needs to do to win against you is hide in the mountains/jungle/whatever rough terrain he has, engage in geurilla-style conflict for a few months and wait until your soldiers run out of petrol, bullets or spare tires, then massacre them on a huge scale?))

[Monoff]

The radio blared to life “loyal Monoffian soldiers. We will fight till the death. If you ever ditch tanks or other military equipment destroy it before you go. We don’t want these foreign devils using them against us.” A tank commander opened the hatch a saw South East Europe soldiers coming. “Retreat or you will be fired upon.” He yelled

[South East Europe]

ooc: $118,000,000,000? Not even close. Iraq is costing the US billions every month, with only a few hundred thousand men. And it doesn't matter whether there's a bureaucracy or not. Just getting men onto ships, and transporting would be a NIGHTMARE. Consider that a large transport ship could carry a few thousand men. That would mean that you would need 10,000 transports. It would take weeks just to get men on the ships. Also, how do you already have men in his nation? Don't tell me you just auto spawned.

I'd like to point you to these three threads:

OOC: First of all, those threads have nothing to do with the ability of my nation. Second, over 100 thousand helicopters that can each hold 20 soldiers going back and forth over the course of a half day to a few days would get 30,000,000 troops there. US in Iraq does not compare to my nation deploying troops at all. I started deploying the soldiers before he even declared war. They were originally to help Catholics seeking asylum get into South East Europe and the large number of soldiers is to make sure all goes as planned. If you read every post I have made thus far, that is exactly what has been done.

[South East Europe]

OOC: We used most of the military funding and we do have hundreds of millions of workers and tens of thousands would be working in weapons and vehicle facilities. Any thing the military needs or wants, it takes so that should take half a day. And by RP timing, that would be a very short time. There are no military vehicles, only the ones to extract innocent Catholics and they are each provided with food supplies for a week. Any thing else that they require can be pillaged from any building. Any military vehicles have been taken from other militants by force.

((OOC: So you're going to essentially drop off thirty million troops in Monoff with no supply routes, air cover, strategic bombardment or anything? You do realize that, in theory, all Monoff needs to do to win against you is hide in the mountains/jungle/whatever rough terrain he has, engage in geurilla-style conflict for a few months and wait until your soldiers run out of petrol, bullets or spare tires, then massacre them on a huge scale?))

OOC: But the South East European soldiers are already engaging in geurilla warfare and take any supplies that they come across.