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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:25 pm

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Postby Achesia » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:21 pm

Where is a good place to network and find other MT players (other than this thread). I've not been as active on the MT scene in awhile and I want to get involved. Thanks.
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Postby Ghant » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:05 pm

Achesia wrote:Where is a good place to network and find other MT players (other than this thread). I've not been as active on the MT scene in awhile and I want to get involved. Thanks.


There are a few places.

You could hop on IRC and jump around, from the NSMentors Channel to the NSMT channel. You could also hop on the NSMT Discord channel and talk to the people there. That Discord channel I'd say is well represented by MTers of various schools of roleplay from different regions.
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Postby Achesia » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:55 am

Ghant wrote:
Achesia wrote:Where is a good place to network and find other MT players (other than this thread). I've not been as active on the MT scene in awhile and I want to get involved. Thanks.


There are a few places.

You could hop on IRC and jump around, from the NSMentors Channel to the NSMT channel. You could also hop on the NSMT Discord channel and talk to the people there. That Discord channel I'd say is well represented by MTers of various schools of roleplay from different regions.


Someone from the mentor chat actually pointed me to that channel so I joined just earlier, thanks!

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Postby Gaia Concordis » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:59 am

Why is there Best of P2TM awards but not Best of II awards? (Not that I'm aware of, at least.)
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:32 am

Gaia Concordis wrote:Why is there Best of P2TM awards but not Best of II awards? (Not that I'm aware of, at least.)


There used to be, and it produced more divisiveness than anything else.

I'm sure a new award could be introduced with a new system, but no one has really cared to do it because of negative experiences with the concept so far.
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Postby Havensky » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:00 pm

II is really diverse so it's hard to pick "BEST RP" - If I were to run one, it would be like the Oscars with categories

- Best Character in a leading role
- Best Character in a supporting role
- Best Worldbuilding
- Best Action Scene
- Best Plot
- Best RP (I mean, it's hard to avoid this one)

(Whispers in a low voice.... 'we could call it the Minties')
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Postby Ella2 6 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:39 pm

Havensky wrote:II is really diverse so it's hard to pick "BEST RP" - If I were to run one, it would be like the Oscars with categories

- Best Character in a leading role
- Best Character in a supporting role
- Best Worldbuilding
- Best Action Scene
- Best Plot
- Best RP (I mean, it's hard to avoid this one)

(Whispers in a low voice.... 'we could call it the Minties')

Different RP communities have different values. For example, what the general MT community calls the 'best' compared to what the FT community calls 'best' may be completely different things. I do believe technology categories are very important for II due to the differences between the tech communities.

- Best MT Character in a leading role
- Best PMT Character in a leading role
- Best FT Character in a leading role
- Best MT Worldbuilding
- Best PMT Worldbuilding
- Best FT Worldbuilding
etc.
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:01 am

This guy is good, using logic as an excuse to godmod and meta? That's great...
He can steamroll entire RPs because LOGIC. I mean, isn't that powerwanking?
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Postby Aquitayne » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:04 am

New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:This guy is good, using logic as an excuse to godmod and meta? That's great...
He can steamroll entire RPs because LOGIC. I mean, isn't that powerwanking?


Provide examples, please. Otherwise this is just flaming.
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:07 am

Aquitayne wrote:
New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:This guy is good, using logic as an excuse to godmod and meta? That's great...
He can steamroll entire RPs because LOGIC. I mean, isn't that powerwanking?


Provide examples, please. Otherwise this is just flaming.


Sure thing!
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The issue is that he's telling you that you have to cede territory, right?
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:24 am

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The Manticoran Empire wrote:Eaka, a very close friend of the Empire, had just collapsed. The two nations had bonded during the Asgeirrian War, when Manticore not only supplied Eaka with arms and military advisors but had even fought alongside them. Now, though, that nation was gone. The reasons for it were unclear but what was abundantly clear was that the Empire could not allow the GDU to expand in Nuwe Afrikaan. Troops entered Austrivania a week after the collapse, immediately working to install a functional interim government while also assisting with keeping the peace. Virtually all of the population remembered the Asgeirrian War and knew that the Manticorans had bled to liberate them. This was seen as another liberation and it continued into Gilda in the following weeks.

Empress Catherine bordered an airship to meet with remaining government officials in Austrivania and Gilda, to discuss the needs of the Eakan population. Some necessities were quite apparent: food, clean water, utilities, safety were high on the list of priorities. However, these territories also bordered Halium, a member of the GDU with a history of political instability. There was also a history of Arengin supporting Halium's government. If Halium got spooked by the annexation, then it wouldn't be long before Arengin troops were in country. And with most of Manticore's troops in Tamir, a war in Nuwe Afrikaan wouldn't be very beneficial.

The Annexation had gone smoothly over the last two years. A few skirmishes with NCSU invaders which had come and gone like the brushfires they were. The Eakans were now beginning to think of themselves, at least somewhat, as Manticorans. The Empire had provided them with transportation, sanitation, security, and even a functional government. In Glida and in southern Austrivania, Manticoran troops combined with former Eakan forces to secure the border with Halium and, along the coast, the old, run down Asgeirrian forts were rebuilt. News of war in Afrikaa didn't worry most of the citizens, many of whom were busy with work putting the new provinces back into working shape.

Oh? My military are just brushfires eh? We armed them well!

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Good Ports are in the capital geographic province of Thatcheron, and Icespear is close si they have good ports too.

My point exactly. You don't have enough good land in the Svacic Sea to house a powerful fleet. At MOST you have the Pearl Harbor Fleet. 8 battleships, 8 cruisers, 30 destroyers, and about 50 other ships. I, on the other hand, am bringing a fleet of over 600 warships, including 36 Super Dreadnoughts, 56 Dreadnoughts, 24 Battleships, and 31 Battlecruisers. The only fleet you have with enough firepower is STUCK in the Martyr's Sea because that is the only location with enough COASTLINE to house such a force.

So I can't have a powerful fleet? Nation controlling...

The Manticoran Empire wrote:The forces had been gathered. 250,000 soldiers, 69,300 Marines, and 634 warships set sail from Tamir Continent for the territories of WastIndun and Pillarice. Their goal? To capture the Svacic Strait and prevent the NCSUs meager Svacic Fleet from supporting an offensive against Arengin. To that end, the Army and Marine Corps would land on the Svacic Peninsulas of WastIndun and Pillarice, seizing the coastal fortifications and advancing inland approximately 30 kilometers from the coast before digging in and fortifying their positions. With control of the Svacic Strait, the Navy would then endeavor to force NCSU's navy to engage, where the superior firepower of the RMN would crush the NCSU Navy before being turned on NCSU ports in Thatcherton and Icespear. Even if the NCSU fleet would not join for a battle, the RMN would still destroy the ports. If the NCSU fleet were in port, they would mine the harbor entrances, preventing the enemy from escaping. If they were not, they would mine the entrances to prevent them from returning. However the NCSU Navy chose to go about it, the ports would be thoroughly destroyed, requiring years of work, tens of thousands of workers, and millions of dollars to repair. In addition, the Empire hoped to be able to annex the Strait, thereby preventing NCSU from becoming much of a threat.

It took a few days for the fleet to arrive but they did and they set about shelling the coastal forts. Massive 12-inch and 14-inch shells slammed into the earth and ice, destroying forts which had been built decades before, when naval guns were far weaker and rarer. The bombardment lasted an entire week and was relentless in its effort to destroy as much as possible. When the infantry finally landed, there was virtually no resistance.

Mhmm, the most obvious one is at the end... Shelling me, and not letting me have a response? And he went on with it, worse, everyone supports him! Like he's an OP!

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Svacic Sea, 10 kilometers off Tatcherton Coast, major Ruskland naval installation

The Tamir Fleet had found their selected target, the largest naval base in the Svacic Sea. The first guns roared to life, aimed at the base. At 10,000 meters, everything except the guns on the destroyers could hit the NCSU base. The shells ripped into coal stores, oil drums, ammunition bunkers, warships, and other structures, igniting secondary explosions and killing hundreds. The guns fired for several hours before withdrawing.


So everything was destroyed and there were no naval guns(ehem, there were)? Legit mate! And they withdrew, without casualties!

I'll trawl all his posts if you want to!

The Macabees wrote:The issue is that he's telling you that you have to cede territory, right?

I already established that some territories will not be ceded, but oooooh he wants them to be ceded! And his treaty effectively makes me steamrollable without any resistance.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CuO ... obilebasic

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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:43 am

Okay he's not around...
Okay, we'll continue later, I'll have to set up a new nation now.
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Postby The Macabees » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:32 am

New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:Okay, we'll continue later, I'll have to set up a new nation now.


For what it's worth, you don't.

There's nothing tangible gained or lost in this game, so you can literally retcon whatever shared canon you have and do your own thing.

Here's the thing. (1) I agree that [s]he should be giving you the opportunity to respond, and if [s]he isn't that should have been discussed with you beforehand. (2) In all disagreements, both sides are partially right and this is just as important for you to realize as it his for him/her. At the end of the day, [s]he can't imposed anything on you that you don't want to accept. When we're talking about your world, your intellectual domain, at the end of the day you call the shots, and whether you decide to compromise is entirely dependent on whether the benefits of RPing with this other player outweigh the costs.
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:34 am

The Macabees wrote:
New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:Okay, we'll continue later, I'll have to set up a new nation now.


For what it's worth, you don't.

There's nothing tangible gained or lost in this game, so you can literally retcon whatever shared canon you have and do your own thing.

Here's the thing. (1) I agree that [s]he should be giving you the opportunity to respond, and if [s]he isn't that should have been discussed with you beforehand. (2) In all disagreements, both sides are partially right and this is just as important for you to realize as it his for him/her. At the end of the day, [s]he can't imposed anything on you that you don't want to accept. When we're talking about your world, your intellectual domain, at the end of the day you call the shots, and whether you decide to compromise is entirely dependent on whether the benefits of RPing with this other player outweigh the costs.


Um, don't kill me but we're not exactly CO-OP or OPs in the RP? So this poses a new set of problems, or not.

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Postby The Macabees » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:05 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Um, don't kill me but we're not exactly CO-OP or OPs in the RP? So this poses a new set of problems, or not.

Don't end my life please.


I'll spare you this time. :evil: jk

The OP can dictate terms for that RP (with limits, since if the terms are bad nobody is going to want to RP in that thread). The OP can't dictate terms for your canon. If you don't like the terms, you can choose to disassociate. However, that means you're disassociating from the shared canon you're creating as well.

In almost all cases, it behooves players to cooperate and compromise, and disassociation is a last step type of thing - when OOC diplomacy fails.
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Postby Purple Rabbits » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:47 pm

This may sound dumb, but what does it mean when someone posts "tag" in a forum.
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Purple Rabbits wrote:This may sound dumb, but what does it mean when someone posts "tag" in a forum.


It's a way of bookmarking your thread. If you click on "view your posts" you'll get every thread you ever posted in.

"Tagging" is highly discouraged. If you scroll to the footer of a thread you'll see a link that says "Bookmark." To see your bookmarks you go to user control panel and then to bookmarks, that way you're not just posting for the sake of writing "tag."
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Postby Anagonia » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:34 am

Purple Rabbits wrote:This may sound dumb, but what does it mean when someone posts "tag" in a forum.


Elaborating a bit on The Macabees reply, I'll shine a bit of light on why it started.

Back in the early days of the forum there wasn't any specific way to "bookmark" threads. People would commonly reply "tag" to a thread to bookmark it since the feed showed what topics a writer would reply to. Until the introduction of newer forms of keeping tabs of topics, that's basically what writers used. There's a whole evolution to "tag" usage that would eventually find it becoming more of a nuisance than anything else. Nowadays, as The Macabees hinted, there's no particular reason to use it.

Thought you'd appreciate some history on the subject. :)
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Erm...
Well, I have an RP in my sig. There are a bunch of members on it. However, no one is posting anything. I've TGed them all a bunch of times, but they haven't even responded. Any advice?
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Postby Santheres » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Yatzatz wrote:Erm...
Well, I have an RP in my sig. There are a bunch of members on it. However, no one is posting anything. I've TGed them all a bunch of times, but they haven't even responded. Any advice?


Not a P2TMer, so I don't know the culture, but this feels universal:

I would suggest you post a lot more content so people actually have something to reply to - something to have as a launching point. A lot of RPers don't want to just post (or only read) random one-paragraph news updates with little to no explanation from other people about what they're doing.

Since you're the main poster, you have to consider yourself the game master at least until it keeps going. Post more, and have more content in each.
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Postby Welskerland » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:23 am

I want to do a war RP, where there isn't a clear good guy or bad guy. Many war RPs are probably like that, actually.

In Welskerland's history, the country was invaded by an empire that wanted to annex the Welskian people. The war ended with the Welskians, with the help of an ally or two, driving out the invaders, and uniting into one country for the first time in its history. However, it was not a total victory, as the empire of Thorland did actually take over a couple of Welskian tribes and were allowed to keep them, and made them a province in the empire. This was in the early 18th century, and Welskerland is a PMT nation somewhere around 2050 A.D.

This war RP starts with Welskerland deciding that it wants to invade Thorland in order to liberate the Welskian people who were conquered by the empire and have them join the rest of Welskerland. I intend for the war to mainly focus on that one province, with two factions, the Loyalists (want to remain a part of the empire) and the Rebels (who want to rejoin Welskerland.)

Since empires and conquest have a generally negative connotation, how can I make Thorland and the Loyalists sympathetic enough that some will want to RP as them? I prefer to keep both sides even.
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:24 am

Welskerland wrote:I want to do a war RP, where there isn't a clear good guy or bad guy. Many war RPs are probably like that, actually.

In Welskerland's history, the country was invaded by an empire that wanted to annex the Welskian people. The war ended with the Welskians, with the help of an ally or two, driving out the invaders, and uniting into one country for the first time in its history. However, it was not a total victory, as the empire of Thorland did actually take over a couple of Welskian tribes and were allowed to keep them, and made them a province in the empire. This was in the early 18th century, and Welskerland is a PMT nation somewhere around 2050 A.D.

This war RP starts with Welskerland deciding that it wants to invade Thorland in order to liberate the Welskian people who were conquered by the empire and have them join the rest of Welskerland. I intend for the war to mainly focus on that one province, with two factions, the Loyalists (want to remain a part of the empire) and the Rebels (who want to rejoin Welskerland.)

Since empires and conquest have a generally negative connotation, how can I make Thorland and the Loyalists sympathetic enough that some will want to RP as them? I prefer to keep both sides even.


What does a company that's received negative press do? It has to re-brand itself. It has to change people's perceptions on what it stands for, so that when they see its actions they interpret it under a different light.

In this case, you need to sell the idea that the invasion is just, because it's what the people of that region want; i.e. it's not about invasions, it's about self-determination.
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Postby Welskerland » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:25 pm

I made the thread but got no replies. What did I do wrong?
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