2009 NS Political Summit (IC | Closed)

[Kinitaria]

Ferëni again stood. "Giving any governmment the right to do anything it wants with all its citizens only leads to totalitarianism. War criminals are a completely different kettle of fish, and these people deserve to be punished like they punished many families with their acts."

"I disagree! War Criminals are humans as well, and deserve the same equal treatment and rights."

"Of course they are humans, but if you are saying people like this should not be severely dealt with... I can only hope one never rises to power in Seculartopia."

"They should be punished, but rash actions are not needed! Commiting the actions that the criminals commited against them only turns you into the criminals."

"Criminals? For helping rid the world of someone like that? And Vitius, we do know that all non-Communist states aren't commiting mass murders or genocides."

"Excuse me sir? Unless i am mistaken, did you just relate communism to genocide?"

"The delegate from Vitius claimed that a war criminal is someone with a different opinion of government. This is ridiculous, as we know that just because a state is not Communist, like we are, does not mean it is carrying out genocide."

"My most sincere apologies, i jumped to a conclusion before due evidence. I retract that broken judgement."

"Thank you. Let this particular matter end there, as we should focus on a specific case of war criminals - Myanmar.

(OOC: I'm going to have to disappear from this thread for a few hours due to lateness here and need for sleep)

[Seculartopia]

Ferëni again stood. "Giving any governmment the right to do anything it wants with all its citizens only leads to totalitarianism. War criminals are a completely different kettle of fish, and these people deserve to be punished like they punished many families with their acts."

"I disagree! War Criminals are humans as well, and deserve the same equal treatment and rights."

"Of course they are humans, but if you are saying people like this should not be severely dealt with... I can only hope one never rises to power in Seculartopia."

"They should be punished, but rash actions are not needed! Commiting the actions that the criminals commited against them only turns you into the criminals."

"Criminals? For helping rid the world of someone like that? And Vitius, we do know that all non-Communist states aren't commiting mass murders or genocides."

"Excuse me sir? Unless i am mistaken, did you just relate communism to genocide?"

"The delegate from Vitius claimed that a war criminal is someone with a different opinion of government. This is ridiculous, as we know that just because a state is not Communist, like we are, does not mean it is carrying out genocide."

"My most sincere apologies, i jumped to a conclusion before due evidence. I retract that broken judgement."

"Thank you. Let this particular matter end there, as we should focus on a specific case of war criminals - Myanmar.

(OOC: I'm going to have to disappear from this thread for a few hours due to lateness here and need for sleep)

"Indeed, Let us move on"

[Central Slavia]

The Vice-President jumped up. "An example there! Every government has it's flaws. How ironic that they just dealt with a fascist government then sent the fascist leaders to mine ore used to make nuclear weapons..Disgusting." He said, sitting back down, shaking his head.

Major Koryskin grows slightly red.
How dare you call an action of our past leader, the first worker president Vladimir Kamenicky, who set us on a path towards glorious communist future "disgusting"?
The enemies of our people were apppropriately dealt with, as the revolutionary tribunals decided.
And besides, in our state we do not only make warheads as the imperialists, but nuclear power is our second most important source of energy, so that the lights of cities and factories never need to stop, and radio broadcasts inform everyone of progress.

[Joesavi]

"To discuss and report another matter, there have been a number of riots in Joesavi's major cities from extremist rebels. Although Joesavi's rather irregular method of semi-free market socialism has thrived for decades, these people want the exact kind of economic freedom that leads to greedy fat cats at the top of the corporate ladder, and the poverty-stricken, starving vagabonds on the streets."

[Vitius]

"Vitius would like to let all nations know this: If a war criminal comes into our country, they will be treated like a citizen and be allowed to build a home and have a family. War criminals honestly are trying to better the world, only in their own opinion which may conflict ours."

[Nouvelle Rhodes]

"Communism, in all its forms is a terrible disease which has unfortunately gripped the people of HT. It would be foolish to think that this affliction could be stopped with words alone. The Empire is prepared to stand with those who are willing to fight and die to preserve global liberty and freedom."

"Communism? A terrible disease? It would have to be the best political party in terms of equal rights. Communism is a great idea. We, however, would like to point out that it is horrible if the government that rules a communist nation is corrupt. But that is not our place."

"We agree. Communism in no form is a disease. I find the view that differing opinions are a plague or disease completely abominable."

We are a nation of a mixed economy and many political views, and the Kingdom of Nouvelle Rhodes believes that all forms of government has many positive and negative aspects. Although no government or economic system is perfect, there are many great ones, communist or capitalist.

[Vitius]

The Vice-President jumped up. "An example there! Every government has it's flaws. How ironic that they just dealt with a fascist government then sent the fascist leaders to mine ore used to make nuclear weapons..Disgusting." He said, sitting back down, shaking his head.

Major Koryskin grows slightly red.
How dare you call an action of our past leader, the first worker president Vladimir Kamenicky, who set us on a path towards glorious communist future "disgusting"?
The enemies of our people were apppropriately dealt with, as the revolutionary tribunals decided.
And besides, in our state we do not only make warheads as the imperialists, but nuclear power is our second most important source of energy, so that the lights of cities and factories never need to stop, and radio broadcasts inform everyone of progress.

"Vitius is converting into a fascist government. We do believe that communism is great, but find it very ironic that you rebelled on a fascist's governments sometimes harsh ways and then built one of the worst weapons in the world. No offense was meant. We of Vitius apologize."

[Seculartopia]

"Vitius would like to let all nations know this: If a war criminal comes into our country, they will be treated like a citizen and be allowed to build a home and have a family. War criminals honestly are trying to better the world, only in their own opinion which may conflict ours."

"I agree wholeheartedly."

[The Union of Myanmar]

"Vitius would like to let all nations know this: If a war criminal comes into our country, they will be treated like a citizen and be allowed to build a home and have a family. War criminals honestly are trying to better the world, only in their own opinion which may conflict ours."

"I agree wholeheartedly."

Governor General Khin Nyunt: "This is perfectly fine. As long as they will not cause harm to humanity, Myanmar will not object to your nation's handling of the Generals should they enter your territories. They will forever live in shame, and that is more than enough torture to bear with till their last days."

[Magna Omega]

OOC: I will be back tomarrow.

[Vitius]

OOC: I've got to go for now, as it is late where I live and I also need my sleep. Hope this continues tomorrow, we are making great points.

[Allrule]

The Chancellor stood up. "Frank-Walter Kohler, representing Allrule, Delegate Seat 4. And as of now, I would like to bring up the subject of LGBT rights in the world."

[The Union of Myanmar]

Ambassador Nyan Win, Governor General Khin Nyunt and the diplomatic staff of Myanmar stand up and state their exit from the summit room. They head off to a nearby hotel for diplomats attending the summit. They will return tomorrow to continue discussions.

[Central Slavia]

Minister Modia, face reddening, stands up and gestures aggressively in the direction of the Central Slavian delegate.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, again, and again and again, we have been fed this vile propaganda from the nation of Central Slavian. Our coalition is not imperialistic in nature, in fact it is the exact opposite. We are the champions of the downtrodden, the defenders of freedom and liberty."

"Communism, in all its forms is a terrible disease which has unfortunately gripped the people of HT. It would be foolish to think that this affliction could be stopped with words alone. The Empire is prepared to stand with those who are willing to fight and die to preserve global liberty and freedom."

"Such 'security' promised by Communism, comes with a heavy price. It comes with the loss of your freedom to vote, your freedom to assemble, your freedom to religion, your freedom to speech and privacy along with many, many more."

"The Empire calls upon the nations of this assembly, to officially condemn the Communist party of Hishou Taka for their multiple criminal acts." Finished Minister Modia, once again taking his seat.

Major Koryskin stands up, followed by worried look of his translator and shouts.

You call our society, our ideology and all that stands between chaos and progress a disease? (the man speaks for a while but the translator has fallen silent, and she is slightly red. Later he calms down and she continues)
Our country is completely secure, and within , freedoms are second to none.
We vote , in fact the voting is compulsory. Assembly is allowed , provided you inform the local public security 24 hours in advance , and there is no restriction on freedom of speech ehm hm ... well as long as you say sensible things and are constructive in criticism. And , we are proud of the fact that our state long has cast away the shackles of religion and other superstitions.
The government of PRHT is well following in our footsteps, and there is no more reason to condemn it than any other country present today.

Champions of freedom and liberty are you, of freedom to disrupt progress, and cause crime and liberty to exploit, reap profits at expense of others, and further harmful ideas.

[Europe - Prussia]

The delegation of Europe-Prussia was just listening every delegate. However it was turn of Prussia to talk
Then the chancellor Sophie Von Elisling took the microphone

Gentleman please calm down. We are here to talk about the politics of our countries and of the world not to critize the goverments of the other countries. Every form of of government has his virtues and problems. And the one who dares to critize the goverment of other, means that his goverment is not better that the one he criticized, or probably is worse.
Regarding the asilum to war criminal the empire has only one policy: if there's an order of international arrest the criminal will be handed to the country that requested the order, unless someone present a demand against him. Because that means that he must be judged in Europe-Prussia, and then he will be extradited.
Also we have some information regarding the war criminals of Myanmar. Three days ago we arrested someone that resembled the general Thura Shwe Mann for attempted murder against an imperial judge and for traffic of imperial militar technology to a country in war whose name i will not mencion today.
Right now he's held in the Tartarus prison waiting for trial. And we want the authorities of Myanmar to identify him.

[The Union of Myanmar]

The delegation of Europe-Prussia was just listening every delegate. However it was turn of Prussia to talk
Then the chancellor Sophie Von Elisling took the microphone

Gentleman please calm down. We are here to talk about the politics of our countries and of the world not to critize the goverments of the other countries. Every form of of government has his virtues and problems. And the one who dares to critize the goverment of other, means that his goverment is not better that the one he criticized, or probably is worse.
Regarding the asilum to war criminal the empire has only one policy: if there's an order of international arrest the criminal will be handed to the country that requested the order, unless someone present a demand against him. Because that means that he must be judged in Europe-Prussia, and then he will be extradited.
Also we have some information regarding the war criminals of Myanmar. Three days ago we arrested someone that resembled the general Thura Shwe Mann for attempted murder against an imperial judge and for and traffic of imprial militar technology to a country in war whose name i will not mencion today.
Right now he's held in the Tartarus prison waiting for trial. And we want the authorities of Myanmar to identify him.

Governor General Khin Nyunt: "I will be flying over to Tartarus Prison immediately to provide verification as to whether or not the prisoner is indeed General Thura Shwe Mann. I will arrive tomorrow morning."

[Central Slavia]

That is all for today , says the major. SInce the delegate of Myanmar has left, most of what we need to discuss cannot be addressed.
Svetlana, let us go, he shouts to his translator.
Svetlana finishes off her coffee, picks up papers, sighs from relief that the work is over, and leaves behind the army man.
"Finally i will be able to check out the shops" she thinks. "Natasa at work will be so jealous".
At door, they are followed by the guards, half of them in army uniforms, and half in civil dress although today with badges with the national symbols, both armed to teeth, as they walk towards the hotel.

[Nouvelle Rhodes]

The Chancellor stood up. "Frank-Walter Kohler, representing Allrule, Delegate Seat 4. And as of now, I would like to bring up the subject of LGBT rights in the world."

The Rhodian Foreign Minister wiped his eyes, and whispered to his secondary advisor's assistant to provide him with another cup of coffee; three cream, three sugar.

"The Kingdom of Nouvelle Rhodes has addressed this subject in past years, and with the Marriage Defence and RIghts Act of 1996, anyone, regardless of sexual orientation (provided that they are above the age of 17) can marry. Those who are LGBT are considered equal to any other Rhodian citizen, and the topic is discussed in sexual education classes around the nation. By 2009 it has become a miniscule issue in the politics of Nouvelle Rhodes".

[Tergnitz]

Watching as several other delegations leave, Minister Modia pays particular attention to the Communist Major as he begins shouting in his language to his translator, before packing up and leaving.

Modia then reaches into his pocket and grabs his mobile.

"Alvin, its Theo, it looks like today's session has wrapped up, come meet me out the front of the hall so we can head to the hotel."

"Oh course sir, we'll be there within 10 minutes," replies the head of his security, Alvin Jorbas.

"Excellent, also, just be prepared, i don't want us to be caught off-guard by anything, if you understand me," says Modia in a hushed voice.

[Europe - Prussia]

Relieved by the positive response of Myanmar, the chancellor let out a slight sigh
your majesty the chancellor said to the kaiser, who was listening the entire meeting i recommed to retreat for today
Indeed. Tomorrow we'll discuss the matter about the ala alba However i prefer to do it bilaterally the kaiser responded
We'll try to fix something majesty the chancellor responded.
then the entire delegation stood up and proceeded to the exit of the building where their vehicles were waiting for them to take them to the hotel.

[Nouvelle Rhodes]

Observing the amount of delegates that had already excused themselves from the main Summit hall, the Rhodian delegation team unanimously decided that the gist of today's business had been completed. The team neatly organized themselves to leave, while Minister Marcoux shook the hands of the remaining delegates whom he did not already bid farewell. Minister Marcoux then turned to his tall, slim, black-haired secretary.

"Haydée, please inform Ali to be ready with the car in 5 minutes"

With the Minister at the helm, a small procession of advisors, assistants, and secretaries, followed by 5 Gardes Suisses in their beautiful ceremonial attire, proceeded to leave the Summit building. The chauffeur, right on time, pulled up in a sleek, black Rolls-Royce Ghost limousine. He opened the doors to the diplomatic personnel, giving a subtle wink and affectionate smile to the secretary. The car quickly reached the hotel, and the delegate and his party were free for the night.

[Meciene]

As most delegates left, Junko Hirata was arranging his documents. He did not speak much, but he was certainly amazed by some of the issues brought up today, most notably the Union of Myanmar's situation.

"Take me to the hotel you reserved at once," he told one agent.

[Seculartopia]

Seeing the delegates exiting the Summit Hall, Aksinya took a few moments to organize her files. After a few minutes, she got up, rendezvoused with the guard, and headed to the awaiting hotel room.

[Joesavi]

Beckett got up and slowly walked out of the room, his guards behind him.

[Justorica]

OOC; Sorry I havent been in the thing so much so far. I had internet problems. If someone could give me a brief summary of where we are at.... Oh, and my leader looks like this:

IC: President Justori woke up, realizing he had fallen asleep. He quickly listened in, while organizing the file containing papers of Justorica's economy,energy consumptions, resource consumption, and needs of the Justorican people.