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Postby The Chuck » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:31 pm

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I should also mention that E-Team had been attacking the faction 'Nuking is Bad' (an ally of Fuster Cluck) before Fuster Cluck intervened on behalf of NiB.


More specifically, NiB had been sent over 500 nukes for no reason.


It's Fuster Cluck Coalition ;)

It gets confusing but we went with that since we figured NS mods would crack down on CFC.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:34 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Federal Spanish States wrote:
More specifically, NiB had been sent over 500 nukes for no reason.


It's Fuster Cluck Coalition ;)

It gets confusing but we went with that since we figured NS mods would crack down on CFC.

Oh, you're in Fuster Cluck?
We are allies then :p

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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:34 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Federal Spanish States wrote:
More specifically, NiB had been sent over 500 nukes for no reason.


It's Fuster Cluck Coalition ;)

It gets confusing but we went with that since we figured NS mods would crack down on CFC.

That sounds like a fair assumption :p

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Postby The Chuck » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:36 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
It's Fuster Cluck Coalition ;)

It gets confusing but we went with that since we figured NS mods would crack down on CFC.

Oh, you're in Fuster Cluck?
We are allies then :p


I was the leader of it :P

I was and still am extremely surprised by how well our rag tag group of users managed :) It's been a definite blast.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:37 pm

I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:15 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Oh, you're in Fuster Cluck?
We are allies then :p


I was the leader of it :P

I was and still am extremely surprised by how well our rag tag group of users managed :) It's been a definite blast.

Definitely so. It seems that - even with rogues - our groups managed to largely avoid attacking each other? Many of our attacks come from Uppercuts, Horsemen, and Canopy's rogues :p

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Postby Praeceps » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:34 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
I was the leader of it :P

I was and still am extremely surprised by how well our rag tag group of users managed :) It's been a definite blast.

Definitely so. It seems that - even with rogues - our groups managed to largely avoid attacking each other? Many of our attacks come from Uppercuts, Horsemen, and Canopy's rogues :p

Many of the so-called "rogues" in UPPERCUTS, Horsemen, and Canopy that were targeting each other while we all had a NAP with each other were from players who had their factions already get obliterated and were most likely looking for revenge by going into factions were they wouldn't be targeted.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:35 pm

Minoa wrote:I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.

Anyway, Minoa, there is another thing being recorded in our Discord that's related to rogue nations in Canopy, so should I add other things?
According to Eraman, one of IRMA's leader who forwarded the telegram from someone in Canopy, some rogue nations were present in some major factions to break off alliances and NPAs between them as a form of protest.

Praeceps wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Definitely so. It seems that - even with rogues - our groups managed to largely avoid attacking each other? Many of our attacks come from Uppercuts, Horsemen, and Canopy's rogues :p

Many of the so-called "rogues" in UPPERCUTS, Horsemen, and Canopy that were targeting each other while we all had a NAP with each other were from players who had their factions already get obliterated and were most likely looking for revenge by going into factions were they wouldn't be targeted.

Noted.
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:41 pm

Praeceps wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Definitely so. It seems that - even with rogues - our groups managed to largely avoid attacking each other? Many of our attacks come from Uppercuts, Horsemen, and Canopy's rogues :p

Many of the so-called "rogues" in UPPERCUTS, Horsemen, and Canopy that were targeting each other while we all had a NAP with each other were from players who had their factions already get obliterated and were most likely looking for revenge by going into factions were they wouldn't be targeted.

That is precisely it. We cannot retaliate anyone from UPPERCUTS or HoTA (Horsemen of the Apocalypse) because of their sheer strength and numbers. They can hit us but we can’t hit back. Fortunately, we have a crap ton of shields on our aid, and maybe minus a few potshots that were shot down, we only get 2 units of rad (that was on me, sorry Chuck!)

I missed the chance to obliterate someone in UPPERCUTS.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:45 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Praeceps wrote:Many of the so-called "rogues" in UPPERCUTS, Horsemen, and Canopy that were targeting each other while we all had a NAP with each other were from players who had their factions already get obliterated and were most likely looking for revenge by going into factions were they wouldn't be targeted.

That is precisely it. We cannot retaliate anyone from UPPERCUTS or HoTA (Horsemen of the Apocalypse) because of their sheer strength and numbers. They can hit us but we can’t hit back. Fortunately, we have a crap ton of shields on our aid, and maybe minus a few potshots that were shot down, we only get 2 units of rad (that was on me, sorry Chuck!)

I missed the chance to obliterate someone in UPPERCUTS.

Same here, to the missed chance. I was asleep when Uppercuts just gone :p
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Postby Cerdenia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:59 pm

Isn't the fact our own All Nations Against Liberals made the greatest comeback of all time and got to 9th under Ousted Regions Against Liberals going to get mentioned? No!? This site is ran by LIBERALS!!!!!!!
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Postby The Stalker » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:13 pm

Minoa wrote:I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.


Pretty good! Maybe i'm Biased, but I think you should consider adding more info on the Horsemen.

Like you mention the member regions over several factions, but don't mention Horsemen are from Hell, and the various other regions listed in our dispatch. Or that we came in 2nd last year. Probably could some info from our dispatch; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=876290

Just a thought.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:50 pm

The Stalker wrote:
Minoa wrote:I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.


Pretty good! Maybe i'm Biased, but I think you should consider adding more info on the Horsemen.

Like you mention the member regions over several factions, but don't mention Horsemen are from Hell, and the various other regions listed in our dispatch. Or that we came in 2nd last year. Probably could some info from our dispatch; https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=876290

Just a thought.

Actually, question, did you all consider TGW & Lily to be member regions this year, or more of individual mercs?
Cerdenia wrote:Isn't the fact our own All Nations Against Liberals made the greatest comeback of all time and got to 9th under Ousted Regions Against Liberals going to get mentioned? No!? This site is ran by LIBERALS!!!!!!!

Creating a new faction that manages to get on the top 10 because nearly every faction is largely obliterated wouldn't seem to be notable.
Minoa wrote:I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.

Just the slight note that Sonindia was essentially a member region of Canopy :)

In regards to comments by others on the rogues, I can explain a bit more about this year's unusual rogues/direct you to at least one of their primary sources if you want.

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Postby Pacomia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:05 pm

Minoa wrote:I think we are up to date: https://nsindex.net/wiki/4th_Nuclear_Apocalypse

We also have a data dump from the API.

I am happy to move the discussion in Gameplay should the need arise.

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Postby Cerdenia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:05 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Creating a new faction that manages to get on the top 10 because nearly every faction is largely obliterated wouldn't seem to be notable.


Yes I am aware, that was mostly a joke. But either way, All Nations Against Liberals did stay in the top 5 for the 6~ first hours of N-Day, having only 2 Non-Agression Pacts, 0 alliances, no no-life people with hundreds of puppets and being a faction made up of middle to low-sized regions of mostly players unexperienced with N-Day. I have been having a feeling we went unoticed to many, everyone thought we were a joke due to our acronym back when we formed, and yet it appears we did far better then all were expecting, of course until we got nuked by the horsemen due to the massive flaw that is allowing people to hold literally hundreds of puppets in N-Day.
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Postby The Stalker » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:11 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Actually, question, did you all consider TGW & Lily to be member regions this year, or more of individual mercs?


They were member regions i'd say, really the core of this year's success for sure. I just updated the dispatch to include them, probably add more to the dispatch as it comes to me.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:18 pm

The Stalker wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Actually, question, did you all consider TGW & Lily to be member regions this year, or more of individual mercs?


They were member regions i'd say, really the core of this year's success for sure. I just updated the dispatch to include them, probably add more to the dispatch as it comes to me.

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Postby Bolysus » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:15 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:Y'all have to bring up the batral of upercuts by horsemen of the Apocalypse


We didn't betray UPPERCUTS.You attacked us first, we retaliated.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:01 am

Bolysus wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Y'all have to bring up the batral of upercuts by horsemen of the Apocalypse


We didn't betray UPPERCUTS.You attacked us first, we retaliated.

^ this
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Postby Harmonic Empire » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:14 am

Good thing i switch side to HoTA at the rightful time, UPPERCUT is totally annoying
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:16 am

Harmonic Empire wrote:Good thing i switch side to HoTA at the rightful time, UPPERCUT is totally annoying

UPPERCUT was gone in the first 30 mins.
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Postby Minoa » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:10 am

Wow, that was a lot of new information for NSindex. I think I have addressed all posts to this point.
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Postby Strange World » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:05 am

I think the "Destruction of the Catholic Alliance" is also pretty worth noting.

It originally started because Praeceps began targeting thousands of nukes at CA, bringing down every single one of their shields, making a huge # of strikes against them, and allowing the Horsemen to clean up the rest:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=facti ... =radiation (scroll to the very bottom)

It's also really interesting because CA had an active non-aggression pact with UPPERCUTS at the time. Apparently this is the greatest case of a rogue user? See viewtopic.php?p=36275465#p36275465

If it weren't for the actions of one user, they likely would've survived.




I also noted of the "Annihilators of the CCD" faction. If it weren't obvious enough, they were founded solely to attack Apollo 13 (i.e. the official faction of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators). They originally had a bunch of "ABC123" puppets that were used to initiate a pre-emptive strike against Apollo 13/CCD, and they got well over 1100 strikes on them:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=facti ... ew=strikes

Also, due to a rogue nation targeting UPPERCUTS, the founder of the faction (ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MISTER KRABS) was forced to lock the faction and move out all the ABC123 puppets before UPPERCUTS retaliated. It seemed to work, since "Annihilators of the CCD" managed to preserve over 900 of their score and remain in the top 15:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=factions

This would probably fit under the "Individual nations and regions" section, since all those ABC123 alts were (seemingly) puppets of the ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MISTER KRABS account, and "Annihilators of the CCD" was solely composed of those puppets (minus the rogue who targeted UPPERCUTS).
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Postby Tulov » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:16 am


FactionRegion(s)
Augustin AllianceConch Kingdom/Anteria/Cape of Good Hope/Dawn/Lands End/Narnia/Ridgefield


For the 4th Nuclear Apocalypse, the Augustin Alliance faction consisted of: Conch Kingdom (de facto hosts),Anteria, Cape of Good Hope, Dawn, Lands End, Narnia, and Ridgefield.[13]


For the record, this information is somewhat incorrect. The AA is a multi-regional alliance with the same founder for all regions (August) - that is, Conch Kingdom, Cape of Good Hope, Dawn, Lands End, Narnia, and Ridgefield all collectively make it up - and are held as absolute equal. The Augustin Alliance itself is technically the host, and not any of the regions within it.

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Postby The Chuck » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:49 am

Strange World wrote:I think the "Destruction of the Catholic Alliance" is also pretty worth noting.

It originally started because Praeceps began targeting thousands of nukes at CA, bringing down every single one of their shields, making a huge # of strikes against them, and allowing the Horsemen to clean up the rest:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=facti ... =radiation (scroll to the very bottom)

It's also really interesting because CA had an active non-aggression pact with UPPERCUTS at the time. Apparently this is the greatest case of a rogue user?




I also noted of the "Annihilators of the CCD" faction. If it weren't obvious enough, they were founded solely to attack Apollo 13 (i.e. the official faction of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators). They originally had a bunch of "ABC123" puppets that were used to initiate a pre-emptive strike against Apollo 13/CCD, and they got well over 1100 strikes on them:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=facti ... ew=strikes

Also, due to a rogue nation targeting UPPERCUTS, the founder of the faction (ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MISTER KRABS) was forced to lock the faction and move out all the ABC123 puppets before UPPERCUTS retaliated. It seemed to work, since "Annihilators of the CCD" managed to preserve over 900 of their score and remain in the top 15:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=factions

This would probably fit under the "Individual nations and regions" section, since all those ABC123 alts were (seemingly) puppets of the ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MISTER KRABS account, and "Annihilators of the CCD" was solely composed of those puppets (minus the rogue who targeted UPPERCUTS).


After these puppets moved out, they moved into the Fuster Cluck Coalition and helped mass produce shields to be able to thwart most small scale attacks.
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