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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:17 am

"In the spirit of cooperation, finding common ground and compromise, I hereby propose our amended version which we believe continues and forwards the majority of Resolution 8 including some well-grounded reforms while excluding the controversial executive overreach portions and anti-sovereignty clauses."

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Authored By:
The Aestorian Commonwealth

His Grace Alexias Stella

Amended and Revised By:
The Republic of Inyursta

Ambassador Melissa de Vertrun




Functional Unity Act

[Resolution Number: 8a]


Desirous of enabling a more effective Coalition, with increasing economic and administrative unity of purpose,
Noting that some individuals in the council believe the Government continues to lack any permanent budget or ability to function, and that other organizations require mandatory contributions on the order of $2 billion per year,
Noting a number of additional innovative methods and practices being pursued by the government, and desiring to put them on a firmer footing,


The Council hereby:

Part 1: Economic Matters

Section 1: Funding
1.Encourages all future member nations pay, or pay in kind, at least a sum of $100 million upon entering the International Freedom Coalition to cover minimal central government activities, and that all existing members pay at least half that sum.
2. Permits nations to opt-out of this payment by writing at least five words to the Council explaining why.
3. Invites nations and affiliated organizations to fund the following projects:
$10 billion: Grant to become official sponsor for IFC Exhibitions at least four times per year.
$10 billion: Grant to become official sponsor for even-numbered or odd-numbered IFC Summits up to Summit 20.
And encourages the government to pursue further sponsorship as they see fit.
4. Invites organizations headquartered in IFC member nations to become affiliated organizations at the expense of $10 billion (or $20 billion for organizations not headquartered in IFC member nations) or as otherwise negotiated and approved by at least three members, the Prime Minister, and the Treasurer and Minister for Economics.
5. Permits such affiliated organizations to appear at Exhibitions and directs the Government to provide some suitable advertising space to those organizations.

Section 2: Trade encouragement
1. Encourages all member nations to sign or continue at least one trade agreement with at least one other member nation within three months of the passage of this act, or pay an additional $10 million towards the IFC budget.
2. Encourages the free movement of capital and services between IFC members.
3. Directs IFC members to pass post between members.
4. Affirms the right of member nations to decide what foreign assets are allowed in their sea and air space, and affirms that the IFC is an organization dedicated to protecting, encouraging and expanding freedom and liberty, not forcing members to be subject to the economic empires of one another.

Section 3: Government Spending
1. Requests the Government reduce the naval budget to less than 40% of income.
2. Requests the Government sets aside at least 10% of all income for improving the government balance.
3. Directs the Government to spend, per annum, at least 60% of the budget outside Cabinet Member’s nations and at least 90% outside the Prime Minister’s nation, and to publish all expenditures over $5 million.
4. Directs the Government to put aside at least 10% of all income into a special aid fund for the Council to award to needful nations.

Part 2: Administrative Matters


Section 1: Summit initiative
1. Recognizes the ability of members-in-Council to pass legislation at government-initiated Summits if they possess Summit quorum.
2. Defines Summit quorum to be at least six members or at least one quarter of all admitted members, whichever is smaller.
3. Grants smaller numbers of members at Summits legislative initiative.
4. Directs that such meetings be officially termed meetings of ‘Members-in-Summit’ or meetings of ‘the Council-in-Summit’.

Section 2: Administrative Reform
1. Directs the Speaker to oversee elections for a senior deputy speaker for assisting with the Council and Government’s main functions.
2. Repeals Clause 3 of Section 1 of Resolution 5.
3. Repeals and replaces Act 0 Section 3 Subsection 2 Clauses 1, 2, 4, and 5 as follows:
1. The office of the Prime Minister shall be occupied for a term at the Prime Minister’s discretion of two months at least and four months at most, unless there is an explicit motion of no-confidence.
2. In the absence of any declared candidates, the Speaker shall automatically be on the ballot, and shall be elected if no other candidates are elected.
4. If a motion of no-confidence is passed, elections shall be administered by Deputy Speakers in order of seniority, if available; or by the person at the highest possible level in the Cabinet chain of command (below), discounting declared candidates.
4. Directs that in this transitionary period the next election must start within four weeks of the passage of this act.
5. Appends:
4. Such powers may also be exercised by the Prime Minister in the absence of the Secretary General, or, when their premiership is undisputed, may be exercised at all such times.
to Resolution 0.
6. Forbids Prime Ministers from selecting and removing Speakers, but otherwise grants the Prime Minister the ability to appoint a Prime Ministerial Deputy Speaker to assist in in the management of government legislation.
7. Accepts that the Prime Minister, Chief of Staff, and Foreign Secretary have the power to negotiate treaties on behalf of the Coalition, for acceptance or rejection by at least two thirds of the Council or an absolute majority of all members excluding suspended members.
8. Suspends and considers as grounds for suspension any members who have made no official announcements nor attended any summits for over one year, reversible upon any official announcement or summit attendance by that member.
9. Accepts that the Cabinet has the power to suspend members as an alternative to expelling them, and declares that no suspension shall last longer than a Prime MInister’s term plus one week.
10. Permits and recommends the Prime Minister to consider nations holding official posts to have resigned from their office if they fail to make any announcements to the Senate at least once a month.
11. Amends Clause 2 Section 1 Resolution 5 a) and c) to a) Having governmental policies that conflict with the democratic values of the Coalition or enacting policies that promote prejudicial discrimination. and c) Subverting the authority and legislation of the Council.
12. Defines "Policies that promote prejudicial discrimination" as: Policies enforced by a member's government against the will of a simple majority of said member's voting population which promote discrimination, negative treatment or status as second-class citizen which may include but is not limited to racism, sexism, religious persecution and political favoritism.
13. Repeals and replaces Clause 2 of Resolution 1 with 2. States that nations shall be selected by the Supreme Allied Commander and Prime Minister as Commander in Chief to organize and administrate the following IFC functions: (a) Navy, (b) The Army, (c) The Air Force, (d) Special Forces, (e) Intelligence, and such nations shall generally hold such posts for two terms at a time, to enable longer-term planning.
15. Anti-repeals Resolution 50.
16. Modifies all uses of the word ‘Requires’ with ‘Requests’ in Resolution 50.
17. Repeals Section 1 clause (iii) and (vii) of Resolution 50 and renumbers other clauses as appropriate.
18. Repeals and replaces Section 4 Resolution 50 as follows:
Section 4: Membership, Projects, and Reform Committee

A Membership, Projects, and Reform Committee will be created, including the Membership Secretary and the Chief of Staff, with the Prime Minister as chair, with the powers to:
i) scrutinize membership, projects, and other policy or administrative actions undertaken by the Coalition or Coalition members, and to provide assistance and advise on the conduct of such actions,
ii) suggest mandates on the operations and standards of the special agencies and government offices and committees,
iii) act as High Court below the Council for enforcing such standards and to establish such lesser courts and tribunals as they deem fit and proper in accordance with Common Law created by the Council,
iv) propose legislation, and
v) act as Supreme Court in the event of an impasse in the Council

18. Repeals and replaces Section 6 Resolution 50 as follows:
Section 6: Office-holders

Subsection 1: Management
The Council declares that:
i) The Responsible Minister and the Prime Minister shall Chair their own committees and decide members on those committees, and may form additional sub-committees within departments.
ii) In case of dispute, Ministers may resign from the committee, and form their own.
iii) Otherwise the Prime Minister’s decision may be final, and the Prime Minister may select another chair.
iv) Recommends that Ministers be permitted to choose at least two members to appoint to the committee.
v) Specifies that, for expedience, the Economics and Membership Committees may be run as one committee under the direction of the Prime Minister or the Chief of Staff or either responsible Minister.

Subsection 2: Particular Committee Members
i) Recommends the Foreign Affairs Committee shall have a sub-committee the IFC-SACTO dual members committee, which shall include at least all dual-members of both organizations who wish to be upon that committee and the Foreign Minister.
ii) Recommends that additional dual members’ sub-committees be formed for any organizations with 4 or more dual-members at the request.
iii) Recommends that all Committees should have, as members, the Prime Minister, the Chief of Staff, the Defence Secretary, and the Membership Secretary.
iv) Recommends that all Committees should include all Deputy Ministers from their department as standard.
v) Specifies that a Free Trade Deputy Minister should sit in the Foreign Affairs Committee and the Economics Committee.
vi) Specifies that C-in-Cs should be on the Defence Committee.
vii) Specifies that the Director of CASTI should sit on the Economics and Membership Committees.
viii) Specifies that ambassadors to alliances that are subject to a sub-committee should be members of those committees and recommends that they normally chair those committees.

Section 7: Cabinet

i) Recommends that the Cabinet be considered a Super Committee, and be generally divided into two parts:
(a) The External Affairs Cabinet, including all Ministers and the Defence and Foreign Affairs Deputy-Ministers.
(b) The Internal Affairs Cabinet, including all Ministers and the Membership and Economics Deputy Ministers, and Directors of agencies.
ii) Recommends that the Prime Minister continue to exercise complete control over membership in the Cabinet, subject to the continued confidence of the Council.

19. Reiterates that any judicial enforcement or interpretation of legislation should, in the final instance, be handled by the Council pursuant to Resolution 0.
20. Appends:
Any signatory nation may retroactively and/or selectively exempt itself from the extradition requirements if it believes any extradition request to be politically motivated.
Any other affected nation may exercise the same right unless an IFC court considers their refusal to permit extradition to have been made on improper grounds.
to Resolution 6.

Section 3: Unity of Members
1. Reiterates that members must be willing to come to the defense of each other in an unprovoked war.
2. Defines "unprovoked war" as: A military or economic attack, sabotage or unjustified sequence of threats and ultimatums carried out against the member's homeland, territory or asset abroad which committed no hostile action, positioning, threat, subversion or movement against the perpetrator of said attack.
3. Reiterates that members must not attack each other under any circumstances whatever.
4. Defines an "attack" as: A deployment of forces, operatives or other assets against a member nation which is either unprovoked, uninvited, unwanted or otherwise damaging with a hostile intent which may include but is not limited to an invasion of territory; an attempt to harm, kill or destroy infrastructure, citizens or military forces; or an attempt to sabotage and subvert the ability of a a member's government to manage and run their respective jurisdictions.
5. Reiterates that it is impossible not to comply with IFC legislation and remain a member, and concludes that upon any member becoming non compliant with IFC legislation, they can be called to testify before the Council on the causes or meanings behind their non-compliance and if necessary a vote may be called to suspend or eject them.


[Ambassador Melissa Lorena de Vertrun Jiménez, La Republiqua D'Inyursta]
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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:17 am

"Ontorisa votes AYE to Resolution 8a and NAY against Resolution 8."

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Postby Aravea » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:00 pm

"The Imperium of Aravea hereby votes AYE on Resolution 8A"
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:46 am

"I notice that the opposing delegate has decided to act plenty of controversial and ridiculous clauses of their own. So much for compromise. Therefore, while we are glad that there are some clauses which are no longer disputed, we really cannot let this travesty of a proposal pass.

To be slightly more specific, it would be quite unreasonable for the IFC to allow its member nations to deny free passage to IFC forces providing assistance to other IFC members, for instance; that would make the alliance highly ineffective. Imagine, for example, that Salderia was under attack, and Ausitorian carriers needed to pass through Naybran waters to assist by the fastest route, a not unlikely scenario? Nor do we think that members ignoring our agreements should be simply called to testify - the IFC Council is quite bureaucratic enough that any proceedings to remove members seem to take years. As for the definitions, we do not believe that a mere deployment of forces can possibly be considered an attack.

We do believe that therefore those matters which we cannot agree on be left for later discussion, and, desirous of at least getting what we all seem to agree on passed, withdraw Resolution 8 and propose Resolution 9, including only what we have all agreed on, and emphasizing the Council's ability to interpret."

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The Aestorian Commonwealth
His Grace Alexias Stella




Minimal Unity Act

[Resolution Number: 9]


Despairing of ever agreeing to any proper unity of purpose, but
Inching towards minor reforms,


The Council hereby:

Part 1: Economic Matters

Part 1: Economic Matters

Section 1: Funding
1.Encourages all future member nations pay, or pay in kind, at least a sum of $100 million upon entering the International Freedom Coalition to cover minimal central government activities, and that all existing members pay at least half that sum.
2. Permits nations to opt-out of this payment by writing at least thirty words to the Council explaining why.
3. Invites nations and affiliated organizations to fund the following projects:
$10 billion: Grant to become official sponsor for IFC Exhibitions at least four times per year.
$10 billion: Grant to become official sponsor for even-numbered or odd-numbered IFC Summits up to Summit 20.
And encourages the government to pursue further sponsorship as they see fit.
4. Invites organizations headquartered in IFC member nations to become affiliated organizations at an expense later defined by the council or as otherwise negotiated and approved by at least three members, the Prime Minister, and the Treasurer and Minister for Economics.
5. Permits such affiliated organizations to appear at Exhibitions and directs the Government to provide some suitable advertising space to those organizations.

Section 2: Trade encouragement
1. Encourages all member nations to sign or continue at least one trade agreement with at least one other member nation within three months of the passage of this act, or pay an additional $10 million towards the IFC budget.
2. Encourages the free movement of capital and services between IFC members.
3. Directs IFC members to pass post between members.

Section 3: Government Spending
1. Requests the Government reduce the naval budget to less than 40% of income.
2. Requests the Government sets aside at least 10% of all income for improving the government balance.
3. Directs the Government to spend, per annum, at least 60% of the budget outside Cabinet Member’s nations and at least 90% outside the Prime Minister’s nation, and to publish all expenditures over $5 million.
4. Directs the Government to put aside at least 10% of all income into a special aid fund for the Council to award to needful nations.

Part 2: Administrative Matters


Section 1: Summit initiative
1. Recognizes the ability of members-in-Council to pass legislation at government-initiated Summits if they possess Summit quorum.
2. Defines Summit quorum to be at least six members or at least one quarter of all admitted members, whichever is smaller.
3. Grants smaller numbers of members at Summits legislative initiative.
4. Directs that such meetings be officially termed meetings of ‘Members-in-Summit’ or meetings of ‘the Council-in-Summit’.

Section 2: Administrative Reform
1. Directs the Speaker to oversee elections for a senior deputy speaker for assisting with the Council and Government’s main functions.
2. Repeals Clause 3 of Section 1 of Resolution 5.
3. Repeals and replaces Act 0 Section 3 Subsection 2 Clauses 1, 2, 4, and 5 as follows:
1. The office of the Prime Minister shall be occupied for a term at the Prime Minister’s discretion of two months at least and four months at most, unless there is an explicit motion of no-confidence.
2. In the absence of any declared candidates, the Speaker shall automatically be on the ballot, and shall be elected if no other candidates are elected.
4. If a motion of no-confidence is passed, elections shall be administered by Deputy Speakers in order of seniority, if available; or by the person at the highest possible level in the Cabinet chain of command (below), discounting declared candidates.
4. Directs that in this transitionary period the next election must start within four weeks of the passage of this act.
5. Appends:
4. Such powers may also be exercised by the Prime Minister in the absence of the Secretary General, or, when their premiership is undisputed, may be exercised at all such times.
to Resolution 0.
6. Forbids Prime Ministers from selecting and removing Speakers, but otherwise grants the Prime Minister the ability to appoint a Prime Ministerial Deputy Speaker to assist in in the management of government legislation.
7. Accepts that the Prime Minister, Chief of Staff, and Foreign Secretary have the power to negotiate treaties on behalf of the Coalition, for acceptance or rejection by at least two thirds of the Council or an absolute majority of all members excluding suspended members.
8. Suspends and considers as grounds for suspension any members who have made no official announcements nor attended any summits for over one year, reversible upon any official announcement or summit attendance by that member.
9. Accepts that the Cabinet has the power to suspend members as an alternative to expelling them, and declares that no suspension shall last longer than a Prime MInister’s term plus one week.
10. Permits and recommends the Prime Minister to consider nations holding official posts to have resigned from their office if they fail to make any announcements to the Senate at least once a month.
11. Amends Clause 2 Section 1 Resolution 5 a) and c) to a) Having governmental policies that conflict with the democratic values of the Coalition or enacting policies that promote prejudicial discrimination. and c) Subverting the authority and legislation of the Council.
12. Repeals and replaces Clause 2 of Resolution 1 with 2. States that nations shall be selected by the Supreme Allied Commander and Prime Minister as Commander in Chief to organize and administrate the following IFC functions: (a) Navy, (b) The Army, (c) The Air Force, (d) Special Forces, (e) Intelligence, and such nations shall generally hold such posts for two terms at a time, to enable longer-term planning.
13. Anti-repeals Resolution 50.
14. Modifies all uses of the word ‘Requires’ with ‘Requests’ in Resolution 50.
15. Repeals Section 1 clause (iii) and (vii) of Resolution 50 and renumbers other clauses as appropriate.
16. Repeals and replaces Section 4 Resolution 50 as follows:
Section 4: Membership, Projects, and Reform Committee

A Membership, Projects, and Reform Committee will be created, including the Membership Secretary and the Chief of Staff, with the Prime Minister as chair, with the powers to:
i) scrutinize membership, projects, and other policy or administrative actions undertaken by the Coalition or Coalition members, and to provide assistance and advise on the conduct of such actions,
ii) suggest mandates on the operations and standards of the special agencies and government offices and committees,
iii) act as High Court below the Council for enforcing such standards and to establish such lesser courts and tribunals as they deem fit and proper in accordance with Common Law created by the Council,
iv) propose legislation, and
v) act as Supreme Court in the event of an impasse in the Council

17. Repeals and replaces Section 6 Resolution 50 as follows:
Section 6: Office-holders

Subsection 1: Management
The Council declares that:
i) The Responsible Minister and the Prime Minister shall Chair their own committees and decide members on those committees, and may form additional sub-committees within departments.
ii) In case of dispute, Ministers may resign from the committee, and form their own.
iii) Otherwise the Prime Minister’s decision may be final, and the Prime Minister may select another chair.
iv) Recommends that Ministers be permitted to choose at least two members to appoint to the committee.
v) Specifies that, for expedience, the Economics and Membership Committees may be run as one committee under the direction of the Prime Minister or the Chief of Staff or either responsible Minister.

Subsection 2: Particular Committee Members
i) Recommends the Foreign Affairs Committee shall have a sub-committee the IFC-SACTO dual members committee, which shall include at least all dual-members of both organizations who wish to be upon that committee and the Foreign Minister.
ii) Recommends that additional dual members’ sub-committees be formed for any organizations with 4 or more dual-members at the request.
iii) Recommends that all Committees should have, as members, the Prime Minister, the Chief of Staff, the Defence Secretary, and the Membership Secretary.
iv) Recommends that all Committees should include all Deputy Ministers from their department as standard.
v) Specifies that a Free Trade Deputy Minister should sit in the Foreign Affairs Committee and the Economics Committee.
vi) Specifies that C-in-Cs should be on the Defence Committee.
vii) Specifies that the Director of CASTI should sit on the Economics and Membership Committees.
viii) Specifies that ambassadors to alliances that are subject to a sub-committee should be members of those committees and recommends that they normally chair those committees.

Section 7: Cabinet

i) Recommends that the Cabinet be considered a Super Committee, and be generally divided into two parts:
(a) The External Affairs Cabinet, including all Ministers and the Defence and Foreign Affairs Deputy-Ministers.
(b) The Internal Affairs Cabinet, including all Ministers and the Membership and Economics Deputy Ministers, and Directors of agencies.
ii) Recommends that the Prime Minister continue to exercise complete control over membership in the Cabinet, subject to the continued confidence of the Council.

18. Appends:
Any signatory nation may retroactively and/or selectively exempt itself from the extradition requirements if it believes any extradition request to be politically motivated.
Any other affected nation may exercise the same right unless an IFC court considers their refusal to permit extradition to have been made on improper grounds.
to Resolution 6.

Section 3: Unity of Members
1. Reiterates that members must be willing to come to the defence of each other in an unprovoked war.
2. Reiterates that members must not attack each other under any circumstances whatever.
3. Reiterates that it is impossible not to comply with IFC legislation and remain a member.

Section 4: Interpretation
Reiterates that any judicial enforcement or interpretation of this and other legislation should, in the final instance, be handled by the Council pursuant to Resolution 0.

[His Grace Alexias Stella, The Imperial Commonwealth of Libraria and Ausitoria]
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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:19 am

"I would like to vote NAY for Resolution 8a, and AYE for Resolution 9.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:44 am

"Can an Independent third party please re-do this proposal in a manner that won't make the two parties involved continue the pointless arguments."

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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:52 am

"This is a compromise proposal. We have removed everything that we can't agree on. I dare say any third party with sufficient legal expertise would back up that statement."
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Postby Aravea » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:16 am

"I find myself in agreement with the Shazian delegation that it would perhaps be best if a third party redid the Resolution. Regardless for the time being the Imperium of Aravea shall vote NAY on Resolution 9"
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:31 pm

"Incorrect. This is not what we agree upon, considering our support for the clauses in Section 3 are entirely dependent on the basic core of the definitions I previously proposed.
As it stands right now they may still be interpreted in a way that inherently violates the rights of member nations and will almost certainly be used by the Ausitorians to force other members to play host to their plans for a global empire. As such our vote shall remain as a NAY.

We are also in support of the proposal of the Shazite delegate.
"
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Postby Knootoss » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:12 pm

After a prolonged period of regular absences (including a stint abroad) the Knootian observer, Charlotte van Bleiswijk, was sitting on her chair once again. After watching the proceedings for several hours with a look that could best be described as 'bored contempt', she rearranged her stack of papers and spoke up:

"The Dutch Democratic Republic has continued to be a mere observer in this organisation because of its perceived supranational character. When it comes to the purse and to matters of life and death, a free, democratic people cannot be bound by the decisions of an unelected, foreign-led bureaucracy. In this light, I would recommend resolution 8a by the Aestorian Commonwealth over the resolutions proposed by our Ausitorian friends."

She showed a thin smile, then continued: "I've also been asked to point out that we are currently working with the Caldan Union to host a conference on protecting and developing democracy. Democratic states are, of course, welcome to attend."

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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:41 am

"If you really are interested in developing democracy," said Alexias, after an extended pause, "you could be a little more supportive here. The IFC has a lot of potential, but you are handing over the voting majority to the same militaristic nations that Lord Barent de Kock claims Knootoss is worried about. Part 1 Section 1 Clause 2, of both resolutions, very clearly states that nations do not have to contribute, and can free ride all they want.

Indeed, addressing this ridiculous 'nobody can tell us what to do', there are only four listed mandatory requirements for members:

1. To defend each other in unprovoked war. (This is an alliance after all).
2. Not to attack each other. (See above).
3. To pass post. (No doubt a grave threat to your national sovereignty - I don't think).
4. To comply with anything else that we ever agree on. (Which is most unlikely).

And if there is anything any of you disagree with, everybody is always free leave the alliance any time. Go, if helping out fellow members of the IFC is too much.

Please go. You're just making it harder for the rest of us."
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Knootoss
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Postby Knootoss » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:04 am

Charlotte van Bleiswijk raised her eyebrow and responded to the Ausitorian with a question: "As a point of order, I'd like to know whether His Grace is instructing me to leave the room, or if he is asking me to convey to my government that it should withdraw its observer position at the International Freedom Coalition."

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Aravea
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Postby Aravea » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:54 am

Shaking his head at the continued foolhardiness of Stellas, Xander rose from his seat and reached into his cloak withdrawing a neatly folded document "This madness has gone for long enough. We have wasted countless weeks in fruitless debates and endless bickering because you do not seem to understand what a compromise is. You offer terms that make the most minuscule of concessions yet nonetheless heavily favor your agenda. That is not compromise Alexias, rather it is offering demands. Compromise is offering that terms that are agreeable to your opponents even if they are of somewhat of a detriment to yourself. For weeks you have gone on and on about how we need to work together, but all I have seen from you is an unwillingness to understand and work with your foes in crafting legislation that will benefit all of us. Furthermore let me make this clear while echoing the sentiments of some of my esteemed colleagues here, the IFC is not nor shall it ever be more than military alliance. Your dream of creating an internationalist organization out of this venerable alliance is completely and utterly at odds with its founding principles. The very notion of having such an organization is why we stand against you as it does not fit our beliefs of what this alliance should be. We believe that the IFC should serve the needs of its members, yet still allow them to maintain their sovereignty rather than ceding it to a foreign authority. That is without even mentioning how sections of Resolution 9 further concentrate power within the hands of the Prime Minister(ie them being the head of the Judiciary). Unfortunately your recent actions as well the continuing gridlock in this Council leave me no choice. Let be known that it is with great reluctance that I submit the following proposal to the Council:"

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The Imperium of Aravea
His Eminence Xander von Andresova




Rectification and Overhaul Act

[Resolution Number: 10]


Growing tired at the continued inaction and bickering of the various factions in the Coalition Government and the Coalition itself,

The Council hereby:

1. Calls for an immediate suspension of the current IFC government and suspension of the Eighth IFC Summit.

2. Demands that a summit/convention to determine the course of the IFC be held immediately within the Imperium of Aravea, Kirishima, Shazbotdom, or Organized States.

3. Recognizes the need for a neutral party to head up the summit and therefore called upon the nations of Kirishima, Organized States, and Shazbotdom to act as arbiters in the discussions on the fate of the IFC. Should the aforementioned nations not partake of their requested role, they shall be substituted with candidates chosen by simple majority vote within the council. Furthermore the PM nor government shall have the power to appoint or nominate arbiters during this process.

4. Requests that a caretaker/steward government headed by Kirishima, Organized States, or the Empire of Muzztopia manage Coalition affairs until such a time as when new elections can be held.

Section 2

Furthermore during the summit the Council hereby calls for the complete review of the IFC charter by the aforementioned arbiters to interpret its true meaning as well as the extent of both Governmental and Council powers, while also hereby calling for:

1. The Creation of an independent IFC judiciary to investigate violations of the IFC charter and try violators. Said Judiciary will at its inception be composed of the three aforementioned arbiters. Following the conclusion of their terms, which shall be no more than two months, they shall be replaced by candidates elected via majority vote in the Council. Once again the PM or Government shall not have the power to nominate or appoint the members of the Judiciary.

2. For the creation of a new IFC Charter/Constitution consistent with the decree that shall be issued at the conclusion of the summit on what the IFC's new direction shall be.

3. Formally establishes the continued IFC membership of the Republic of Inyursta.

4. The Creation of a ruling executive council or triumvirate that will act as an extension of the Council's will.

Section 3

Finally as of this Resolution's passing the Council hereby decrees that:

1. Resolution 5 shall be rendered null and void, while Resolution 3 shall be reinstated for the duration of the IFC Charter/Constitutional Convention.

2. Should the ruling government not stand down following this act's passage they shall be expelled from the IFC for abuse of power and treason.

3. That the IFC Headquarters shall be moved from Musrum, Bratislav to a location to be determined by majority vote at the Constitutional Convention.

4. That the position of IFC Speaker shall henceforth be elected via majority vote in the Council.

5. That the positions of Deputy Speaker(s) shall henceforth be filled by candidates selected by the Speaker rather than the PM.

6. That the reigning government shall not interfere in the selection of the Speaker or endorse any particular candidate.

7. That all votes in the Council shall henceforth be decided by simple majority vote rather than a two-thirds majority.

8. Establishes a limited veto power for the Steward that will be capable of being overturned by a majority vote within the Council

9. That no binding legislation, decrees, or resolutions shall be adopted at the Eighth IFC Summit. Furthermore, this Council establishes that all future legislation following the Conclusion of the Constitutional Convention must be submitted to and passed by the Council.

10. Any attempt to circumvent Section 3 Clause 9 is to be viewed as treason and thus grounds for immediate dismissal from the Council.



[His Eminence Xander von Andresova, The Imperium of Aravea]


Glaring at the Ausitoran with an expression of sheer anger, Xander spoke in tone dripping with the utmost amount of venom he could muster "Make your choice Stellas...Will you back down and listen to your opponents or will you allow yourself to be responsible for the death of this Coalition?"
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Greater Carloso
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Postby Greater Carloso » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:35 am

Eben Davies, the ever watchful man glared onwards as the council continued on its course of perpetual eruption of bickering and arguing, the signs of a stagnant alliance with no power or purpose left. Glancing at his watch urgently, he stood up, adjusted the small microphone he had been provided to project himself across the chamber and then began to speak, "Ladies, gentlemen, delegates from the memberstates of the International Freedom Coalition, I would like to announce that, for better or for worse, it is by the order of the government in New Carlingford that the Carlosian delegation is to withdraw from this alliance. With it, I resign from my position as Minister of Defence. I wish you all the best of luck, thank you." With that, the small group of men, including diplomatic staff and security officials, waltzed out of the entrance to the chamber, possibly never to be seen again around these parts.
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Inyourfaceistan
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:00 am

"First off, I would like to say good bye and bid farewell to the Carlosian delegation.

Secondly, in regards to the points brought up by the Ausitorian delegation I would like to point out that without solid definitions those requirements can and most certainly will be interpreted in any way manner the beholder pleases and will undoubtedly be used to justify the very ideas they supposedly seek to act against.
Again, we are not rejecting these principles as you will most likely attempt to strawman us for such, rather requesting that solid definitions be applied to these points to stop inherent violations of the rights of members by a very small but aggressive colorblind minority who views the world in shades of gray...

Lastly, we vote AYE to the proposal Resolution 10 by the Aravean delegation.
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Aravea
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Postby Aravea » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:08 am

Xander once more rose upon seeing the Carlossian delegate exit the chamber. Shaking his head he bore an expression of barely contained sadness "Stellas see what this fighting has wrought? One of our most prominent and longest enduring members has just left. Tell me is this continued fighting to push your agenda worth it? Is it worth the constant conflicts with both myself and the other delegates who oppose you? As I have said many times, we do not wish to see this conflict continue for any longer, but as long as you uncompromising or continue to push your agenda at the detriment of the Coalition...Well we will have no choice. We do this not because we despise you or an Ausitorian premiership, but because we sincerely fear that you are unintentionally undermining the values of both the Coalition and the rights of its members. So I ask once again will you back down and work with us to save what remains of this Coalition?"
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:51 am

"Clearly none of you have noticed that there are members further to the left of Ausitoria who are too scared to speak out, and have realized that the IFC has, whether one likes it or not, been made impossible to run without the agreement of the SACTO camp. That is why both Brytene and Greater Carloso have left, and more will follow at this rate. The IFC is in grave danger of becoming a SACTO-members only club.

I have known for a while that Aravea has, true to form, been actively plotting the removal of this democratically elected government. They say 'will you back down' - what funny ideas they have of compromise.

There has been much talk on the nature of compromise, and what the solution is. Ausitoria is trying to propose a solution which is a compromise, not between Aravea and Inyursta and Ausitoria, but between Aravea and Inyursta and the socialists in the IFC, who they have been driving out of office so aggressively, actively and despicably. Ausitoria is a consumate centrist and cares not for the left or right; but only for democracy; and - how many times do I have to say this - one can be a democracy and be socialist.

However I am very pleased to say that Aravea seems to have got above himself, and closed in for the kill far too early. There are only three delegations here, two of whom are not even members, who have opposed Resolution 9; the only vote I count against Resolution 9 is Aravea's. On the other hand there are two members publicly in favour of Resolution 9 and additional ones who I cannot name. In light of the urgency of the motion, as Deputy Speaker I hereby declare Motion 9 passed by at least 2-1.

If you don't like Resolution 9, or any of the other requirements, people are free to leave, or to attempt to repeal the motion. But far be it for me to ask the Knootian delegation to leave! Particularly since, as observers, they are not required to agree to anything at all. Rather, in the interests of a Minister of Defence who is actually interested in defending trade, we would be delighted if they would accept the post of Minister of Defence.

However, returning to Aravea's actions, fearing for the imminent collapse of the IFC, a very rapid response is clearly necessary. Therefore for that reason Aravea is hereby expelled from the IFC under Section 3 Clause 1 of Resolution 5. In addition I am pleased to admit New Tyran as a member."
The Aestorian Commonwealth - Pax Prosperitas - Gloria in Maere - (Factbook)

Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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Postby Aravea » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:06 am

"So as usual onstead of discussing or evening considering leveling with your opponents you move right to expel me? Tell me have you ever thought we are not trying to undermine but rather put a halt to the continued nonsense that you and several pthers in the Coalition have insisted on perpetuating? Plus did you even read the proposal...It clearly spells out that its aims are yo revitalize, not destroy the coalition. I am afraid we will not leave simply because you disagree with our proposal. This type of heavy handed police action is why the IFC is collapsing under itself and why Brytene and the Carlossians left. As for your claims about me "plotting to make IFC a SAČTO only club". Tell me have you ever considered the possibility that we simply are trying to preserve the centrist balance of IFC and its values? We stood against Resolution 9 because we were concerned about some elements of the proposal, rather than voting with a political agenda. Or are you blind to that?"
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:09 am

Alexias laughed uproariously. "'Brytene left because of Ausitoria?' I will have to show you a telegram from them. Brytene left because of Inyursta.

I don't care whether you are staying here or not, the Summit has legislative initiative and the Council can function without being in this building. Since there are two delegates here who will not leave, we will leave them. They can talk all they like to empty air. But I'll leave them, and all of you, with a copy of my draft budget, as per Resolution 9, just to show them how effective government can be when they are not obstructing every-fucking-thing.

Pardon my fluent unparliamentarian. As Deputy Speaker, I hereby declare this session of the Council closed. Probably a cooling off period is a good idea anyway. I shall not be seeing you again, at long last the Ausitorian government has decided to relieve me with another ambassador. I wish you all a good day."

And with that, Alexias left the Council building, a broad smile on his face.
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Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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Postby Knootoss » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:32 am

Charlotte van Bleiswijk opened her mouth to the rather extraordinary offer of becoming Minister of Defence. Before she could get a word in, though, the session was closed. Showing very little emotion on her face she tucked away her tablet, rose to her feet and left the building, too.

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Aravea
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Postby Aravea » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:37 am

Xander couldn't help but chuckle as he saw the Ausitorian finally leave the chamber. To be honest it had been an event that he had wondered if he would ever behold. Regardless of Alexia's action's Xander rose from his seat and gathered his enoutrage and belongings, but turned back towards the Council for a moment "Regardless of what happened here today, know that Aravea holds no negative feelings or ill will towards any member of the Council. Indeed it is our hope that all pf you may find success in whatever endeavors you undertake in the future be it with the IFC or elesewhere. As for me and the Aravean delegation we will not recognize the actions that Stellas took here today, but nonetheless we shall be resigining our membership in the Coalition effective immediately. We do this because we can no longer abide such blatant abuses of power by those in power over simple dissent or standing up for the values we hold dear. Let me be the first to note that Aravea throughout its time here has reached to other nations, both leftist and rightist to work together for our betterment. We have even attempted this with the Ausitorians in the past and have multiple times offered them a figurative olive branch. Regardless of our resignation we still endeavor to promote peaceful cooperation and democracy with both the members of this Coalition and those outside of it. Contrary to what the former Deputy Speaker may think that and the upholding of freedom is all we have ever wanted out of our time here. So to conclude I wish all the best of luck in wherever your future endeavors may take you. Gott mit Uns!"
With this Xander and his retainers set out from the chamber to a waiting limousine that would take them to a nearby airfield from where they would begin the long journey home. Yet if one looked carefully enough at the young Crown Prince's expression as he left, the slightest of smiles could be seen.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:40 am

Ambassador de Vertrun simply smirked. The Ausitorians had just proven in one authoritarian move that they were more of a dictator than she could ever portray them as.

Facts were on her side.
Logic was on her side.
Truth was on her side - and the truth will set you free...

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Republic of Inyursta
Melissa de Vertrun




Repeal of Resolution 5

[Resolution Number: 11]


Noting that the contreversial and unpopular Resolution 5 was passed with a narrow timeframe for debate, and that in said time frame attempts to debate Resolution 5 were ignored.
Further noting that Resolution 5 was passed with a slim margin compared to Resolution 3 which it surpassed and that vote turnout for Resolution 5 was much lower than that of Resolution 3.

Observing that Resolution 5 has been used in the dictatorial and anti-liberal method for which it was fear and has been used to eject a member for disagreeing with the Prime Minister.

Hereby resolves to Repeal Resolution 5 and restore Resolution 3.

Signed,


[Melissa Lorena de Vertrun Jiménez; Republiqua D'Inyursta]
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:53 am

[OOC: You do know this session is over, right?]
The Aestorian Commonwealth - Pax Prosperitas - Gloria in Maere - (Factbook)

Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:49 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:[OOC: You do know this session is over, right?]


Then it will be up for vote when the next session opens.

Unless of course you plan on making yourself permanent OP of the Council too so that way you can keep dissent to a minimum...


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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:50 am

[OOC: You do know you're not a member, right? It's much simpler to move the Council than to remove your delegate. She's like a limpet. And she will not be invited wherever we meet next].
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The Aestorian Commonwealth - Pax Prosperitas - Gloria in Maere - (Factbook)

Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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