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by Catalaonia » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:19 pm
by The Rio Grande River Basin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:20 pm
Catalaonia wrote:Union Princes wrote:Couldn't care? Joyner is an outspoken National Socialist that is leading a coalition of Dixiecrat and far right radicals in response to the Civil Rights movement. Unlike George Wallace or George Lincoln Rockwell, Joyner has the skills and the right connections to have the opportunity to form a coherent reactionary movement to poison US politics now that Fascism won WWII.
If the Liberal Republicans don't care about the Civil Rights at all, they should be at least concerned with his foreign policy of detente. They should be worried of the implications of Joyner's success
To be honest, 2 of characters are fairly moderate conservatives, and also be the epitome of the US Establishment. A daddy's boy governor and a long-time moderate Democrat. Only Zamari is considered radical cause of his socialist economic views, but all 3 of my characters would be a free shot for dixie's and the far-right/left.
Battle of Mar’Sa’Nakar ends in Pyrrhic victory as the Galactic Federation suffers losses, in defending the critical sector. GFS Andromeda severely damaged, GFS Comet destroyed. Mass evacuation of outer sector worlds beginning.
by Catalaonia » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:27 pm
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Catalaonia wrote:
To be honest, 2 of characters are fairly moderate conservatives, and also be the epitome of the US Establishment. A daddy's boy governor and a long-time moderate Democrat. Only Zamari is considered radical cause of his socialist economic views, but all 3 of my characters would be a free shot for dixie's and the far-right/left.
Well, you see, the liberals couldn’t care, because they were never going to get the south anyways. Meanwhile, Long, also couldn’t care, because if he wants to be a reactionary, then Long can outspeak, outfund, and outmanoeuvre him. Long can say he loves nazis one place, and say he’s a communist somewhere else, and get away with it, but at the same time, like Johnson, like Long, lots of scandals in the closet, which is quite possibly the only way to take him down. And he can certainly out-populist anyone.
by The Rio Grande River Basin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:32 pm
Catalaonia wrote:The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Well, you see, the liberals couldn’t care, because they were never going to get the south anyways. Meanwhile, Long, also couldn’t care, because if he wants to be a reactionary, then Long can outspeak, outfund, and outmanoeuvre him. Long can say he loves nazis one place, and say he’s a communist somewhere else, and get away with it, but at the same time, like Johnson, like Long, lots of scandals in the closet, which is quite possibly the only way to take him down. And he can certainly out-populist anyone.
So long can simply change from one end to the other, without it's gaining much national traction?
Battle of Mar’Sa’Nakar ends in Pyrrhic victory as the Galactic Federation suffers losses, in defending the critical sector. GFS Andromeda severely damaged, GFS Comet destroyed. Mass evacuation of outer sector worlds beginning.
by Azekopolaltion » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:33 pm
by The Rio Grande River Basin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:35 pm
Battle of Mar’Sa’Nakar ends in Pyrrhic victory as the Galactic Federation suffers losses, in defending the critical sector. GFS Andromeda severely damaged, GFS Comet destroyed. Mass evacuation of outer sector worlds beginning.
by Azekopolaltion » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:37 pm
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Hey, I already dibsied NY-12…
by The Rio Grande River Basin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:38 pm
Azekopolaltion wrote:The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Hey, I already dibsied NY-12…
Ah shoot, but it's not there as reserved on the main post..
Also realized I made some mistakes with timeline, since the current date is Jan 1960. Might need to edit and make him a candidate for the seat instead...IRL NY12 was a Republican seat. Maybe your guy can be the incumbent?
Battle of Mar’Sa’Nakar ends in Pyrrhic victory as the Galactic Federation suffers losses, in defending the critical sector. GFS Andromeda severely damaged, GFS Comet destroyed. Mass evacuation of outer sector worlds beginning.
by Azekopolaltion » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:40 pm
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Azekopolaltion wrote:Ah shoot, but it's not there as reserved on the main post..
Also realized I made some mistakes with timeline, since the current date is Jan 1960. Might need to edit and make him a candidate for the seat instead...IRL NY12 was a Republican seat. Maybe your guy can be the incumbent?
Well, it’s a Republican Shirley Chisholm expy. But yeah, it’s being reviewed, I think, like my McGovern expy
by The Rio Grande River Basin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:41 pm
Azekopolaltion wrote:The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Well, it’s a Republican Shirley Chisholm expy. But yeah, it’s being reviewed, I think, like my McGovern expy
Ah gotchu. I will look and see what changes I might make. Maybe I can move him to another Brooklyn district? Not sure what the map looked like at this time.
Battle of Mar’Sa’Nakar ends in Pyrrhic victory as the Galactic Federation suffers losses, in defending the critical sector. GFS Andromeda severely damaged, GFS Comet destroyed. Mass evacuation of outer sector worlds beginning.
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:42 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
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by Azekopolaltion » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:44 pm
Azekopolaltion wrote:
NS Nation Name: Azekopolaltion
Character Name: Thomas "Tommy" Conor Byrne
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 40
Character Date of Birth: April 21, 1920
Character Position/Role/Job: Freshman Representative for New York's 7th Congressional District, Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and subcommittee on Africa, as well as the Committee on Government Operations (predecessor to the modern House Oversight Committee)
Character Country/State of Birth: Brooklyn, New York City
Character State of Residence: New York
Character Party Affiliation: Democratic (modern American liberal)
Faceclaim: Ted Kennedy
Main Strengths:
The Flashy Resume: Tommy is a former soldier and lawyer, and he comes from a long line of businessmen from his district. He is intimately aware of Brooklyn's economic history as a former industrial base, the importance of global geopolitics, and the cost of war.
The Gift of the Gab: Though he is not a fiery populist orator like many other politicians of his time, Tommy has become used to a calm, cool style of rhetoric that suits his image as the clean-cut former courtroom lawyer. He is methodical, firm, and convincing in his speeches, which can help him come across as a capable young man despite his relative political inexperience.
District Connections: His family were never powerful political donors, but they are still a prominent name in the Brooklyn economy, given that the company is manufacturer dating back to the mid-19th Century. People in Br
Main Weaknesses:
The Dreaded 'Silver Spoon': Tommy's family remains a wealthy group of corporate profiteers in an otherwise deindustrialized, struggling Brooklyn borough. It is difficult for him to convincingly portray himself as a man of the people because of his privileged upbringing; he cannot speak from a place of personal experience when it comes to struggles with finances.
Policy Vagueness: Beyond his staunch anti-war stance, Tommy takes few other firm positions on policy. Perhaps this is due to his past a largely apolitical young man; he voted for Jonathan Jackson in 1952 and strongly opposed fascist Europe during his war service, but otherwise he has never held any strong policy beliefs until the news about the war in Free France. When questioned on welfare, healthcare, and infrastructure, he often speaks in platitudes rather than specifics, opening himself up to attacks from opponents.
Racial Cluelessness: Though his representation of working-class Hispanics and African Americans as a labor lawyer made him sympathetic to the plight of American minorities, race is hardly a number one consideration for Tommy—and he is often shockingly uninformed about the primary domestic issue of his time.
Biography:
Thomas C. Byrne was born to an established Irish-American family in Brooklyn. His father was the head of an old pharmaceutics and medical goods manufacturer, the Byrne-Riley Corporation, with a factory headquartered in Brooklyn ("the Riley plant"). The company has a long, rich history, having served as a major supplier to the Union Army during the Civil War. The company used to export break-bulk cargo from ships on Brooklyn's vibrant waterfront in the 1920s. Tommy's uncle, Colin F. Byrne, was a very senior officer in the U.S. Navy, and was professionally close to FDR; President Roosevelt appointed Colin Byrne as president of the Brooklyn Navy Yard in the 1930s, putting him in charge of thousands of workers constructing ships, preparing to fend off increasingly hostile world powers in Europe and Asia. Thus Tommy was born into a family that was very invested in the fate of Brooklyn's waterfront, seeing it as the intersection between the global economy and global politics.
Tommy was the middle child of his family, forcing him to push himself in order to stand out in comparison to his older brother and younger sister. Though his uncle was a military man close to Roosevelt, the Byrne family was more or less apolitical. If anything, the family values instilled in Tommy leaned conservative: his parents believed in the importance of hard work and personal responsibility to eventually realize the American Dream. He grew up in a very shielded environment that did not pay attention to the real issues of the world; race politics and poverty were never at the top of Tommy's mind. The only discussions about current events in his household related to geopolitics—not from an ideological standpoint, but purely for practical considerations. Tommy became knowledgeable about world leaders, their international agendas, and military affairs from conversations at the dinner table.
Though he worked hard in school, Tommy did not possess the natural intelligence of his younger sister nor the outstanding academic achievements of his older brother, who was a proper Harvard man. Tommy enlisted in the U.S. Naval Reserve a few weeks before his 18th birthday in 1940, and enrolled in Northwestern University the same year. In 1943, he was sent into active duty against Japan in a long campaign aboard the USS Brooklyn—a ship, coincidentally, commissioned from the Brooklyn Navy Yard. He was discharged at the rank of lieutenant in 1946. Tommy returned to enroll in law school, earning his J.D. from NYU in 1952. He was admitted to the NY State bar that same year.
At law school and as a young lawyer, Tommy spent time with a crowd that was hyperaware of politics and social issues. He began to become more politically engaged and cast his ballot for Republican candidate Jonathan Jackson in the 1952 presidential election, having served under his leadership during the war years. He would end up voting for President Jackson's reelection campaign in 1956 as well. Returning to live in Brooklyn in 1952, Tommy found his old hometown facing severe demographic changes; the borough was suffering from extreme deindustrialization, and the shipyard workforce had been halved as shipbuilding activities moved to more central locations in Virginia nearer to military bases. Even his father's company was facing reduced profits. Much of the white middle class of the borough had moved out to suburbs in Long Island and Staten Island, while many of the borough's neighborhoods faced increasing gentrification. The new working class of Brooklyn was much more diverse and composed of a rising Puerto Rican community.
Facing these changes—a borough with a declining manufacturing sector and corporations that were increasingly paying workers poorer wages and enforcing worse safety standards to survive—young Tommy Byrne joined a small Brooklyn law firm that specialized in labor law. With company bosses that treated workers poorly and union bosses in deep with the American mob, few remained to truly litigate for workers. Tommy did not approach his job ideologically, and did not even win many of the cases he took up. But the very fact that he had chosen to go into labor law rather than a more lucrative sector—or a sector that was less directly confrontational to the interests of company heads like his father—created a small rift between Tommy and the rest of the Byrne family.
His clientele occasionally included Black and Puerto Rican workers suing abusive employers, and Tommy began to become slightly more sympathetic towards the problems of minorities in America—an issue he had been painfully blind to in his adolescent days. He began to see the parallels between the plight of racial minorities at home and other races internationally, and became more disillusioned with the course of U.S. foreign policy post-World War II. Though he was by no means a passionate Civil Rights advocate, nor a staunch pro-labor crusader, like most other Americans Tommy was horrified by the increasingly violent and oppressive war in Free France. It was perhaps this issue that struck the deepest cord with him, given his background in the U.S. military. He had always seen military intervention as a means of fighting the injustice of oppressive regimes like the one in Japan, or the current fascist one in Germany—not as a means of propping up such governments. Ultimately, it was these mixture of experiences—as a former soldier and a labor lawyer for a diverse Brooklyn clientele—that solidified Tommy Byrne's political identity as a modern American liberal.
Knowing he had enough deep-seated connections in Brooklyn given his family history and name, Tommy Byrne ran as a Democrat for the NY-7 Congressional seat in 1958. His platform did not endorse any specific legislation on Civil Rights, poverty, or the economy, but he positioned himself as a native son of Brooklyn who understood the significance of the district's economic and demographic changes. Most importantly, his campaign was centered around the U.S. war in Free France: he calmly but firmly attacked the Jackson administration's foreign policy, invoking his own military service as an example of when war was justified and when it was not. He also positioned the American military aid to France's colonial government as a waste of money when communities in Brooklyn were struggling. Tommy defeated the Republican candidate in '58, officially becoming a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. From his position on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, he has hammered away at the "unjust and wasteful intervention in Free France," becoming a prominent national spokesperson against the war; many of the pictures of the massacres in Senegal were broadcast by him in committee hearings. Voters in his district see him as emblematic of a new political style and a flashier political future, though many scoff at his platitudes and occasional gaffes when it comes to commenting on domestic policy that he is less knowledgeable and passionate about (such as racial tensions in the South).
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by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:44 pm
by Union Princes » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:48 pm
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Well. Kinda. He’ll never say his ideology (ie. Fascism, etc.), but when he speaks to different groups, he’s similar to a Huey Long/LBJ in that he’ll say what people want to hear, without anyone actually being able to accuse him of flip-flopping, ie. “I would end segregation”, whilst in the South, “I am opposed to busing, etc., something something state’s rights”
He’s a populist, he says what you want to hear, in a way that charms a snake.
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Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Is it possible to play a non-political character which still plays an important role (technically) in the politics? Somewhat like Westmoreland did back during the Vietnam War
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The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:NS Nation Name: The Rio Grande River Basin
Character Name: George Graythorpe
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Character Name: Judy Cheshire
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