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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:06 am

I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.

PC current partner list:
Julia and Polly (Proposed)
Armir, Merlin and Saoirse (Proposed)

Remaining:
Argo (Located in the South - Seeking rp partner)
Azron (Located in the East - Seeking rp partner)
Hattie (Located in the capital - Seeking rp partner)
Nephele (Located in the North - indifferent on rp partnership)
Tilian

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One possible alternative matchup
Julia and Saoirse
Armir and Merlin
Hattie and Polly

Remaining:
Argo (Located in the South - Seeking rp partner)
Azron (Located in the East - Seeking rp partner)
Nephele (Located in the North - indifferent on rp partnership)
Tilian
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:48 am

Capital city information thus far

Name: O (Name not yet made)
Current Population 15,450
By age group
Youth 18 and under - 7,725
Adults 19 to 54 - 6180
Seniors 55 and above - 1,545
By location
Urban: 618 adults
Rural: 5,562 adults
- 4,450 farmers (25 towns of 178)
- 834 pastoralists
- 278 hunters

Location: North-Central

Known for:
- Hat making
- Home of the Queen and possibly King
- Home of the Royal court
- Being the capital city

Nearby landmarks:
- Road
- River
- Forest
- Mountain

PC occupants
- Hattie
- Polly

Average Weather in degrees Celsius
-2 in January, 8 in May, 13 in July, 1 in November
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Postby Canis Rex » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:55 am

Cainesland wrote:I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.


Would be fine with me. I don't think I situated Armir anywhere in particular with his app and he took off pretty immediately once he heard his mother.
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:58 am

Canis Rex wrote:
Cainesland wrote:I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.


Would be fine with me. I don't think I situated Armir anywhere in particular with his app and he took off pretty immediately once he heard his mother.


Neat

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Postby Canis Rex » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:12 am

Kaledoria wrote:
Canis Rex wrote:As for the population, the massive decline is indeed intentional. The pantheon wanted humanity to die, and not with a bang, but by being ground down into nothing. Hence why they are so desperate for the moon child to be a savior. Given a few more years, humans will be gone.
With groups, the current proposed ones sound good and we should make sure everyone has somebody to interact with when we start.

I was wondering more about the urban rate then the population itself. I don't usually calculate this high a rate of people in the production of foodstuff in cities. However, I guess with the monsters and such it's more likely, people will flee to the walled cities if there is space, even if it means a longer way to the field. Plus with empty living space for 120,000 people I guess by now there is a good deal of in-city gardening going on and of course, just because there used to be 180,000 people and now there are 60,000 does not mean that 120,000 died in the city. Way more died and the difference migrated to the city and brought with them whatever stockpiles they had (and could salvage from their rural neighbors who have been eaten by monsters ;) ) so ... I guess one can find explanations why there is barely any rural population left and yet there is still a decent number of people in the cities...


Pretty much it. Everything is more difficult to survive in the rural areas (less shelter against the snow and storms, less protection against monsters, etc.). So most of them died or fled for more fortified places. Downside being after a black snow one is more likely to be killed since such a place is less personal and they refuse to take the risk of it spreading. Capital is really bad for it and a cough in public could get one killed.
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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:17 am

Cainesland wrote:I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.

PC current partner list:
Julia and Polly (Proposed)
Armir, Merlin and Saoirse (Proposed)

Remaining:
Argo (Located in the South - Seeking rp partner)
Azron (Located in the East - Seeking rp partner)
Hattie (Located in the capital - Seeking rp partner)
Nephele (Located in the North - indifferent on rp partnership)
Tilian

Wow Argo, Azron, Hattie, and Nephele are really scattered
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:34 am

The H Corporation wrote:
Cainesland wrote:I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.

PC current partner list:
Julia and Polly (Proposed)
Armir, Merlin and Saoirse (Proposed)

Remaining:
Argo (Located in the South - Seeking rp partner)
Azron (Located in the East - Seeking rp partner)
Hattie (Located in the capital - Seeking rp partner)
Nephele (Located in the North - indifferent on rp partnership)
Tilian

Wow Argo, Azron, Hattie, and Nephele are really scattered


Indeed. It seemed like Julia and Polly would be a good fit because of their previous stated connection to the monarchy. However I wonder if Hattie and Polly might work as well because Julia isn’t in the capital to my knowledge. Armir, Merlin and Saoirse seemed good because they share a deity connection, however if Saoirse met with Julia they’d share a knight connection. Then that leaves 4 characters left. That’s another option. It depends how we want to group characters I suppose.
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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:38 am

Cainesland wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:Wow Argo, Azron, Hattie, and Nephele are really scattered


Indeed. It seemed like Julia and Polly would be a good fit because of their previous stated connection to the monarchy. However I wonder if Hattie and Polly might work as well because Julia isn’t in the capital to my knowledge. Armir, Merlin and Saoirse seemed good because they share a deity connection, however if Saoirse Emmett with Julia they’d share a knight connection. Then that leaves 4 characters left. That’s another option. It depends how we want to group characters I suppose.

Yeah, but now that we have an idea of some characters we need to sort out the rest and I don't know how we will do that
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Postby Flohaland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:59 am

The H Corporation wrote:
Cainesland wrote:I don’t know if geography would impact this, but having Armir, Merlin and Saoirse meet up could be interesting.

PC current partner list:
Julia and Polly (Proposed)
Armir, Merlin and Saoirse (Proposed)

Remaining:
Argo (Located in the South - Seeking rp partner)
Azron (Located in the East - Seeking rp partner)
Hattie (Located in the capital - Seeking rp partner)
Nephele (Located in the North - indifferent on rp partnership)
Tilian

Wow Argo, Azron, Hattie, and Nephele are really scattered


Not entirely. O is in the North, Azron has entered the Kingdom from the North. I was thinking that he mostly has stayed in the wilderness, and possibly gone around R ( there are two Rs for some reason, the more eastern one the one referred to here). However, after reading about how dangerous it is outside the city, I am not sure that makes sense.


I am not sure that the cities would be safer. First, you need people to farm the land. 90% of people in the middle ages farmed the land. Maybe that includes manor owners, but still a lot of people. Second, in a city, people are closer together so the disease spreads faster. Third, I am not sure what sort of shelter you need to protect yourself from the black snow. Maybe a thatched roof works? One could easily build small huts near the fields, or in them for people to run to. As far as monsters, there are presumably castles in the country or fortified houses. That was typical in the middle ages. Of course, the small hamlets would disappear, and many villages. Spreading out, however increases the chance of survival.

Of course, there would be a shortage of workers. It is possible some crafts died out because the craftsmen died. The massive deaths would be that there would be an oversupply of 2nd hand goods so most of the craftsmen would go into farming anyway.

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Postby Ceystile » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:19 pm

I’m actually starting with Argo heading up north or preparing to leave it because he and Nigella are picking up a marble shipment.

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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:24 pm

Would Argo and Tilian, and Azron and Nephele be good partners then to start?

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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:31 pm

Cainesland wrote:Would Argo and Tilian, and Azron and Nephele be good partners then to start?

I am not against it, we can start in O.

Quoting what Flohaland said we have 2 characters in the North, Azron and Nephele but we need to sort out how dangerous it would be for Azzron to try and travel to O, on Nephele's part I don't mind starting in O. From there I am out of ideas. Maybe because I am tired
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:34 pm

It looks like most characters are in the north so that makes some sense to do. Merlin would also need to get up to the capital since he is in Reme. But the capital could be a good place to have the characters converge. Maybe there is a well known temple to the moon there?

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Postby Barapam » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:49 pm

Ceystile wrote:If anybody wants to meet up with Argo and/or Hattie I’m game. Caine suggested that Julia and Polly be a pair and I’m down if Barapam is.

Sure, I'm up for it. Then again Caine has a point in the other post too about Julia not being from the capital, but that can be worked around of course. Either works for me.
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:52 pm

Cainesland wrote:Would Argo and Tilian, and Azron and Nephele be good partners then to start?


Tilian has just kinda been wandering across the Kingdom at this point, so he can start just about anywhere honestly. I was just planning on having him be fairly close to the gathering of Demigods because his only motivation toward it is "It's bound to be a good time"
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Postby Ceystile » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:27 pm

Nations United for Conquest wrote:
Cainesland wrote:Would Argo and Tilian, and Azron and Nephele be good partners then to start?


Tilian has just kinda been wandering across the Kingdom at this point, so he can start just about anywhere honestly. I was just planning on having him be fairly close to the gathering of Demigods because his only motivation toward it is "It's bound to be a good time"

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Postby Peatiktist » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:42 pm

Peatiktist wrote:Name: Kanth
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Appearance: Pale white skin, bald. Wears a black cloak and a blindfold
Divine Parent: Eiryia
Inherited Ability: Those who make direct eye contact begin to lose their sanity
Background: No one knows who the parent was or what their occupation was, just that they were found with the child floating in a lake. He lived in a foster home until he was ten, at which point he was (somewhat correctly) accused of influencing the recent mental breakdown of several other orphans.
Since then, he's lived in a cave near the lake, where he only ever ventures out to gather food and water

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Postby Flohaland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:04 pm

I am starting to become pessimistic about this RP... I mean we are having a hard time starting. Now, as a see it this is a mystery story and we have to go to where the clues send us. The first clue is the dream. If that doesn't lead us anywhere in particular, then the capital makes the most sense as the place to go. The non-demigods who got the dream are probably consulting there. Therefore, the top moon goddess expert is probably there. Of course, we can meet on the way there. In fact, "journey to the capital" sounds like a good way to introduce the characters.

I suggest the characters that are geographically closest meet in route. Then when they arrive in the capital the constellation can be reconfigured.

It should also be made clear how dangerous it is to travel and how we protect our characters from the black snow.

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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:18 pm

Flohaland wrote:I am starting to become pessimistic about this RP... I mean we are having a hard time starting. Now, as a see it this is a mystery story and we have to go to where the clues send us. The first clue is the dream. If that doesn't lead us anywhere in particular, then the capital makes the most sense as the place to go. The non-demigods who got the dream are probably consulting there. Therefore, the top moon goddess expert is probably there. Of course, we can meet on the way there. In fact, "journey to the capital" sounds like a good way to introduce the characters.

I suggest the characters that are geographically closest meet in route. Then when they arrive in the capital the constellation can be reconfigured.

It should also be made clear how dangerous it is to travel and how we protect our characters from the black snow.


Meeting those closest makes sense. I think that’s why we were trying to figure out where everyone was. Now that we have a better idea of where people are, that should help facilitate a good start.
Meeting in the capital also makes sense.

I think things are going alright so far. A bit slower maybe, but we’ve got a decent roster, good rp material, and people contributing ideas. It seems like a decent foundation to start from and see how it goes.

I’m terms of travel dangers it has been mentioned that the climate is colder, and there is a fur industry to go along with that. There are bandits, cultists, hags and other monsters on the road. The black snow seems to give one diseases with a touch. As demigods it is the only thing we aren’t immune or resistant to. So traveling is dangerous. How to protect against that seems to be wearing proper clothing vs elements, and seeking shelter in snow and rain storms. I’m uncertain what happens when black snow gets in the water supply though.

I’d be curious about other thoughts on this area as well though.
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:38 pm

Peatiktist wrote:
Peatiktist wrote:Name: Kanth
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Appearance: Pale white skin, bald. Wears a black cloak and a blindfold
Divine Parent: Eiryia
Inherited Ability: Those who make direct eye contact begin to lose their sanity
Background: No one knows who the parent was or what their occupation was, just that they were found with the child floating in a lake. He lived in a foster home until he was ten, at which point he was (somewhat correctly) accused of influencing the recent mental breakdown of several other orphans.
Since then, he's lived in a cave near the lake, where he only ever ventures out to gather food and water


Well, I suppose I should let y'all know that I finally got this finished.


If I might ask some questions to learn more about the character,

The blindfold is an interesting touch if direct eye contact can mentally damage others. Can he see by some other method?

Who ran the foster home? Was it a charity or religious institution?

Now that he has been in a cave for 4 years what brings him out to join the main quest searching for the moon child? Is is instinct or dreams? A desire to help? Or something else?

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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:22 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Flohaland wrote:I am starting to become pessimistic about this RP... I mean we are having a hard time starting. Now, as a see it this is a mystery story and we have to go to where the clues send us. The first clue is the dream. If that doesn't lead us anywhere in particular, then the capital makes the most sense as the place to go. The non-demigods who got the dream are probably consulting there. Therefore, the top moon goddess expert is probably there. Of course, we can meet on the way there. In fact, "journey to the capital" sounds like a good way to introduce the characters.

I suggest the characters that are geographically closest meet in route. Then when they arrive in the capital the constellation can be reconfigured.

It should also be made clear how dangerous it is to travel and how we protect our characters from the black snow.


Meeting those closest makes sense. I think that’s why we were trying to figure out where everyone was. Now that we have a better idea of where people are, that should help facilitate a good start.
Meeting in the capital also makes sense.

I think things are going alright so far. A bit slower maybe, but we’ve got a decent roster, good rp material, and people contributing ideas. It seems like a decent foundation to start from and see how it goes.

I’m terms of travel dangers it has been mentioned that the climate is colder, and there is a fur industry to go along with that. There are bandits, cultists, hags and other monsters on the road. The black snow seems to give one diseases with a touch. As demigods it is the only thing we aren’t immune or resistant to. So traveling is dangerous. How to protect against that seems to be wearing proper clothing vs elements, and seeking shelter in snow and rain storms. I’m uncertain what happens when black snow gets in the water supply though.

I’d be curious about other thoughts on this area as well though.

We can probably assume that water is affected in some way but it's less dangerous and less hazardous and we can guess that the big cities found a way to clean the water or filter it?
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Postby Barapam » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:54 am

How does the plague effect animals? Curious if that's a cheat the shapeshifters can use, or if animals used for food and transport too might be a danger. And is it an actual plague or a more magic kind? Basically I'm wondering if we're to treat it like a RL pandemic or if there's creative freedom.
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Postby Flohaland » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:31 am

I think the only way to make the Black Snow not too dangerous is that it loses it's potency relatively fast. Of course city and farms can both use wells and cisterns. However, if rivers and lakes are effectively poisoned after a snowfall, then it is a wonder anyone is left. I am also guessing the black snow falls sporadically. The disease has a 0% survival rate and is contagious, so way more people probably die from contracting the disease from other people as opposed to the flakes.

Let's not forget the monsters either. Of a demi-god can easily take on a squad of knights, but has trouble with the monsters, then what chance do the knights have against the monsters.

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Postby Canis Rex » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:45 am

Flohaland wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:Wow Argo, Azron, Hattie, and Nephele are really scattered


Not entirely. O is in the North, Azron has entered the Kingdom from the North. I was thinking that he mostly has stayed in the wilderness, and possibly gone around R ( there are two Rs for some reason, the more eastern one the one referred to here). However, after reading about how dangerous it is outside the city, I am not sure that makes sense.


I am not sure that the cities would be safer. First, you need people to farm the land. 90% of people in the middle ages farmed the land. Maybe that includes manor owners, but still a lot of people. Second, in a city, people are closer together so the disease spreads faster. Third, I am not sure what sort of shelter you need to protect yourself from the black snow. Maybe a thatched roof works? One could easily build small huts near the fields, or in them for people to run to. As far as monsters, there are presumably castles in the country or fortified houses. That was typical in the middle ages. Of course, the small hamlets would disappear, and many villages. Spreading out, however increases the chance of survival.

Of course, there would be a shortage of workers. It is possible some crafts died out because the craftsmen died. The massive deaths would be that there would be an oversupply of 2nd hand goods so most of the craftsmen would go into farming anyway.


The cities are safer from a lot of the other threats(black snow, storms, monsters) but if anyone does get infected then yeah it's not safer. People can spread out some since the population dropped hard but it is still a city and not a farm town. Plus much more likely to be executed and burned, for any disease symptoms in general because they aren't taking chances.
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Postby Canis Rex » Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:11 am

For details on the black snow:
Protection is to basically get under anything with a solid roof. It falls like normal snow so long as your protection isn't leaking or too open, you can wait it out.
It does lose potency, very fast. Once it hits the ground it's basically impotent. Don't go scooping up from where it literally just dropped to drink it of course, but it doesn't contaminate water supplies.
It doesn't affect animals, natural or mythical.
The snow does indeed fall sporadically. There are signs a bit before it happens, then snow. The when is completely random.
Danger on the road will depend a lot on what you meet. There's orcs and goblins and such that our characters could simply tear through, things like wyverns that you can beat but have to be careful with because of their venom, then there's dragons that should be avoided at all costs because even we would be food to them right now.
For the mages and knights it is much tougher. They need numbers and still often lose people in fights. The Purgist Knights actually do pretty well on their own though provided they aren't trying to battle the top of the food chain. They can neutralize magical creatures abilities, taking away their speed, strength, the potency of their venom, etc. and make them much easier to kill. They could possibly even do it to us if given enough people and time.
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