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Mirial System
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Postby Mirial System » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:28 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Alaroma wrote:Who’s gonna dictate the rulings? The UN?

If anything the only "UN" here is possibly going to be the Expanse UN... and frankly, they probably won't have authority outside of their islands.


... huh, the Expanse is here. Interesting.

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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:29 am

Mirial System wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:If anything the only "UN" here is possibly going to be the Expanse UN... and frankly, they probably won't have authority outside of their islands.


... huh, the Expanse is here. Interesting.

My knowledge of the Expanse is largely limited to their pretty cool space ships (realistically designed) and well, marines in space! Albeit the Earth ones don't have cool wrist-guns like the Martians.
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Postby Wysten » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am

Hm, I'm tempted to start developing some units for captured territories like Ukrainian and Belarusian armies.
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Postby Dansha » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:19 am

App is pretty much done. Will fill in my history as I go along.

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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:59 am

Since some others involved in this were detailing more specific things... I guess I'll probably throw down information about the typical Europan soldier here.

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The typical Europan soldier closely resembles his (alternate universe) Britannian counterpart in terms of appearance. The Europan soldier is usually a college-age student or graduate (in terms of average age), and he or she serves as the backbone of the Empire's ground forces. As expected of soldiers from any first-rate industrialized army, Europan troops are well equipped, adequately trained, and reinforced with "just the right amount" of ideological education (and fanaticism).

In battle, the Europan soldier is armed with the trusty H&K G12 assault carbine (or long assault rifle), a further development from the famous G11 rifle that served the Empire's armies in decades past. Capable of firing 6mm sabots / bullets at speeds of up to 1200 m/s and issued with standard 50-round magazines, the G12 is but one showcase of Imperial scientific prowess (according to its designers). The weapon operates under a coil-system powered by a schrabidium battery, setting it aside from older powder-based weapons.

Imperial combat armor is considered some of the finest in the world (though this claim was seriously challenged by the *Armored Assault Troops of the North American Union) and incorporates both advanced materials and electronics into its design. The carbon-composite body-plates used by the Empire are capable of resisting high caliber rifle (7.62mm) ammunition quite effectively and likewise provide protection against bladed weapons. This is further bolstered by a kevlar-reinforced jump suit worn beneath, which helps absorb damage from blunt trauma and adds a second layer of kinetic protection (albeit not nearly as effective as the plates). The most advanced part of the armor, the helmet, features a gas mask, a communicator, and a combat sensor suite. As seen in the anime, the combat sensors are capable of zooming in and tracking targets. The whole set-up only weighs around 16 kg, enabling an Imperial soldier to maintain a relatively high level of mobility.

On paper the Imperial soldier is definitely a sight to behold, though if anything there might be an overreliance on technology.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:00 am

Dansha wrote:App is pretty much done. Will fill in my history as I go along.

App is accepted!
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Postby Dansha » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:02 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Dansha wrote:App is pretty much done. Will fill in my history as I go along.

App is accepted!


Time for the SAAR to rise.

*Dissidents setting things on fire in the background*

Ignore that.

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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:23 am

Okay. I ended up making a country just in Iceland. Some influences have been taken from Nineteen Eighty-Four and The New Order. The country doesn't have a calendar and doesn't keep track of dates, but this would be 2035-ish on the 1984-verse.

Full Nation Name: The official name of the country is the North Atlantic Special Administrative Region.
Short Nation Name : The proletariat often still call the country Iceland, but this is strongly discouraged. Abbreviating the latter three words, for North Atlantic SAR, is permitted.
Flag / National Symbols: The official insignia of the North Atlantic SAR is a raven inscribed in a circle formed by a sickle and one-half of a mechanical gear. In flags, this insignia, in black, is placed against a white background with black horizontal stripes at the top and bottom.

Government Type: Revolutionary Socialist state.
Official Political Ideology: The ideology of the North Atlantic SAR is Revolutionary Socialism. The North Atlantic SAR is committed towards the destruction of all ideas and all thought that is not Revolutionary Socialist from everywhere in the world.
Head of State: Under Revolutionary Socialism, there is no need to formally define a particular government position as the head of state. The Commissar represents the People of the North Atlantic SAR with a wise and experienced guiding hand in all matters. What more needs to be defined?
Head of Government : Under Revolutionary Socialism, there is no need to formally define a particular government position as the head of government. The Commissar holds all power in the North Atlantic SAR and exercises it on behalf of its people, and that is enough.
Government Description: Like all other provinces of the Eurasian Confederation of Socialist Republics, North Atlantic SAR has long rid itself of petty counterrevolutionary distinctions between "state" and "private" affairs, between "official" and "personal" matters, and between "right" and "obligation". North Atlantic society is a single united sociopolitical institution geared towards the single purpose of advancing Revolutionary Socialism throughout the world, and all citizens are expected to behave in accordance with the principles of Revolutionary Socialism at all hours of every day. There is no need for things like official titles or structures of governance, because under Revolutionary Socialism all citizens know who has the authority to command whom to do what without need for such things. There is no need for things like written law or regulations, because under Revolutionary Socialism all citizens know exactly what actions to take under every conceivable situation. The North Atlantic SAR transcends the counterrevolutionary dichotomy between order and chaos, between governance and anarchy, to embrace the benefits of both.

Territory: As of the Event, the North Atlantic SAR controlled the Greenland, Iceland, the Faroe Isles, Scandinavia, Finland, and the European Baltic coast, but when the Event happened only Iceland came with.
Territorial Ambitions: The North Atlantic SAR considers all regions bordering the North Atlantic, including the British Isles, Greenland, the Nordic Region, New England, and what used to be Canada, as its rightful territory that is temporarily under occupation by dictatorial and counterrevolutionary forces. No matter. All these territories will soon be liberated by the North Atlantic SAR on behalf of their oppressed and ignorant populations.
Capital City: The capital city of the North Atlantic SAR is Reykjavik.
Population: The population of the North Atlantic SAR is probably on the order of 400,000~500,000 people. The exact figure is not known. Revolutionary Socialist countries do not hold national censuses, because it is ultimately unimportant how many individual people exist in its borders. What matters is how many wills the country is motivated by, how many purposes the country seeks to fulfill, and how many directions the country is moving in - and the answer to all of these questions is "one".

Majority/Official Culture: The people of the North Atlantic SAR are enlightened, not burdened down by the false consciousnesses of aesthetics, behavioural norms, histories, traditions, and other petty regional distinctions that counterrevolutionaries use to divide the human race. Revolutionary Socialism is and will always be the only culture the North Atlantic SAR could possibly need. To help defend this culture against foreign subversion, most people in the North Atlantic SAR speak Esperanto-B, an improved and enhanced version of the constructed language Esperanto, which has been optimised to make communication both efficient and orthodox.

Majority/State Religion: The people of the North Atlantic SAR need no faith but faith in Revolutionary Socialism, nor have they need for belief except belief in the Commissar.

Major Industries / Economic sectors: The North Atlantic SAR has an enormous manufacturing and construction sector for a country of its level of development, producing everything from bombs to beakers, from machine parts to particle accelerators.
Amount of Industrialization: Fully industrialised, with the first hints of transition away from a manufacturing economy to a service economy starting to show.
Economic Description: In counterrevolutionary societies, people go about life like zombies, without purpose or direction, needing to be distracted away from their miseries and existentialism by material comforts and cheap entertainment. Not so in the North Atlantic SAR, under the guiding banner of Revolutionary Socialism. Revolutionary Socialism gives people all the purpose they could possibly need in life, all the happiness a person can dream of, all the comfort and belonging that an alienated industrial worker craves. Therefore, the North Atlantic SAR has no need to waste valuable industrial production on such frivolities as consumer goods. With the ideology of Revolutionary Socialism providing the citizenry with everything that their mind and soul desires, the material economy of concrete objects only needs to satisfy the needs of the physical body, the necessities of survival. All material resources not needed to fulfill these basic needs are assigned to military production, for the liberation of occupied regions, to industrial investment, for the future, and to scientific research, for the transformation of nature.

Technological Level: Mid-nuclear (comparable to real-life 1970s).
Magic and other shenanigans? (If any exists): The technicians of the North Atlantic SAR have developed extremely sophisticated technologies around everything concerning the human mind. Interrogation/torture, reprogramming, emotional control medication, all these and more have been developed to a degree that would inspire the jealousy and fear even of societies that are more advanced in general technology.

Military Description

Army: Given the particular geographic situation of the North Atlantic SAR, the country prioritises its seagoing and airbourne assets more than its ground military assets. While the North Atlantic ground forces are extremely large, it is also extremely poorly armed with almost no mechanised or armoured units at all. Nominally the North Atlantic Army contains seven divisions of 12,000 troops each, alongside some small (and, in open warfare, irrelevant) auxiliary units, but in reality this number fluctuate upwards and downwards as new cohorts of teenagers are conscripted and casualties are taken. There is little standardisation in equipment between the divisions, with the Army being equipped with whatever is available at any given time - the downside of fielding such a large military on a limited industrial base.

Navy: Reykjavik-Keflavik was a significant naval base within the North Atlantic SAR. The Event only brought over forces that were on Iceland at the time, which for the Army and the Air Force represents only a small fraction of the SAR's pre-Event military capabilities, but for the Navy represents a fairly large proportion of it - almost a quarter of the SAR's surface force. It consists of 10 cruisers, 23 destroyers, 9 frigates, 17 submarines, 8 nuclear missile submarines, 9 mine warfare ships, 14 amphibious assault vessels, and some light auxiliary craft. Considering that Iceland alone doesn't have remotely the industrial capability to support this sizable force, questions will soon be asked on what corners need be cut to ensure that Iceland's wall of steel and cannon remain afloat.

Air Force: Much like the Army and the Navy, the numbers of the Air Force are in flux, with numbers going up as soon as new equipment can be produced and going down in particularly costly combat operations with many casualties. As of the Event the North Atlantic Air Force fields 70 strategic bombers, 15 ground support fighters, 3 strategic reconnaissance aircraft, 20 light reconnaissance aircraft, 40 heavy fighters, 120 light fighters, 60 air refueling craft, 60 transport craft of varying sizes, 6 early warning and control craft, and 10 light control craft.

National Goals: Liberate humanity from the tyranny of counterrevolutionary tyrants and ensure that all people everywhere are governed under the enlightening hand of Revolutionary Socialism.

History: Long ago, all mankind lived in pre-revolutionary societies. In such societies, the vast majority of the population were serfs or peasants, scratching a living out of the dirt with subsistence farming. These people were ruled over by the small minority of the population, which depending on culture called themselves the nobility, capitalists, or priests. This so-called "upper class" completely owned the peasants, and could do whatever they liked with them. Children and old people were taken away and murdered so that the upper classes could keep the population at the level that they desired. Scientific progress was slow, because the only people who knew anything about the world was the upper class and the upper class was too busy abusing the peasants to transform nature. The labours of the peasants was exploited to ensure that the upper class could live in luxuries without ever having to work, and the bodies of the peasants were abused for the benefit, or sometimes just the amusement, of the upper class. It was the duty of every peasant to commit suicide if the upper class no longer approved of their existence.

Then the Party came into existence, led by the Commissar, who loved the peasants. Wielding the dual powers of industry, which allowed humanity to be liberated from the constraints of material deprivation, and science, which allowed nature itself to be bent to humanity's will, the Commissar and the Party uplifted the peasantry into the proletariat, who no longer worked for the benefits of a useless upper class but worked for the advancement of Revolutionary Socialism. Knowing that the upper class would do everything in their power to return the new proletariat to ignorance and abuse, and knowing that they would never give up their idle and useless lifestyle voluntarily, the proletariat across Eurasia rose up and overthrew the yokels placed upon them. While many wanted to just get rid of the upper class, the Commissar was generous and loving even to her former enemies, and allowed the surviving nobility, capitalists, and priests to pay penance for their sins, however insufficient it might be to truly absolve them, by permitting them to sacrifice themselves on the battlefield for the triumph of Revolutionary Socialism.

With the resources of society now no longer wasted fulfilling the idle whims of the upper class, Revolutionary Socialism transformed the world. All men and women in Eurasia joined the Party, which used the vast resources freed up from petty decadence to transform nature for humanity's progress, to elevate humanity away from the apes they once were and towards the gods they are destined to be. But this was not true everywhere. In many parts of the world, the upper class used brutal and inhumane methods to barbarically slaughter all who tried to join the Party in their regions, and even now in these regions the upper class continue to terrorise and abuse the peasantry, preventing from being enlightened. It is thus the duty of every enlightened proletariat to go out there and struggle, for the sake of the ignorant who are still forced to be serfs, and liberate them in the name of Revolutionary Socialism.

What do you mean this isn't true, Julianne? You think this isn't the truth? What is the truth? What is the past? Is there a single piece of evidence, a single line of written text, even a single mote of dust, that disproves the facts as I have listed them? No? Then what arrogance, what stupidity, what insanity you have, to consider your one mind, which hasn't even been around for thirty years and will no doubt not exist for another thirty, to be more correct and more knowledgeable than the collected wisdom of the four hundred thousand who know the facts of history as I have stated them. Wake up, Julianne. Wake up from your delusion.

#POD 3 (don't remove this!)
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:30 am

Plzen wrote:Okay. I ended up making a country just in Iceland. Some influences have been taken from Nineteen Eighty-Four and The New Order. The country doesn't have a calendar and doesn't keep track of dates, but this would be 2035-ish on the 1984-verse.

Full Nation Name: The official name of the country is the North Atlantic Special Administrative Region.
Short Nation Name : The proletariat often still call the country Iceland, but this is strongly discouraged. Abbreviating the latter three words, for North Atlantic SAR, is permitted.
Flag / National Symbols: The official insignia of the North Atlantic SAR is a raven inscribed in a circle formed by a sickle and one-half of a mechanical gear. In flags, this insignia, in black, is placed against a white background with black horizontal stripes at the top and bottom.

Government Type: Revolutionary Socialist state.
Official Political Ideology: The ideology of the North Atlantic SAR is Revolutionary Socialism. The North Atlantic SAR is committed towards the destruction of all ideas and all thought that is not Revolutionary Socialist from everywhere in the world.
Head of State: Under Revolutionary Socialism, there is no need to formally define a particular government position as the head of state. The Commissar represents the People of the North Atlantic SAR with a wise and experienced guiding hand in all matters. What more needs to be defined?
Head of Government : Under Revolutionary Socialism, there is no need to formally define a particular government position as the head of government. The Commissar holds all power in the North Atlantic SAR and exercises it on behalf of its people, and that is enough.
Government Description: Like all other provinces of the Eurasian Confederation of Socialist Republics, North Atlantic SAR has long rid itself of petty counterrevolutionary distinctions between "state" and "private" affairs, between "official" and "personal" matters, and between "right" and "obligation". North Atlantic society is a single united sociopolitical institution geared towards the single purpose of advancing Revolutionary Socialism throughout the world, and all citizens are expected to behave in accordance with the principles of Revolutionary Socialism at all hours of every day. There is no need for things like official titles or structures of governance, because under Revolutionary Socialism all citizens know who has the authority to command whom to do what without need for such things. There is no need for things like written law or regulations, because under Revolutionary Socialism all citizens know exactly what actions to take under every conceivable situation. The North Atlantic SAR transcends the counterrevolutionary dichotomy between order and chaos, between governance and anarchy, to embrace the benefits of both.

Territory: As of the Event, the North Atlantic SAR controlled the Greenland, Iceland, the Faroe Isles, Scandinavia, Finland, and the European Baltic coast, but when the Event happened only Iceland came with.
Territorial Ambitions: The North Atlantic SAR considers all regions bordering the North Atlantic, including the British Isles, Greenland, the Nordic Region, New England, and what used to be Canada as its rightful territory that is temporarily under occupation by dictatorial and counterrevolutionary forces. No matter. All these territories will soon be liberated by the North Atlantic SAR on behalf of their oppressed and ignorant populations.
Capital City: The capital city of the North Atlantic SAR is Reykjavik.
Population: The population of the North Atlantic SAR is probably on the order of 400,000~500,000 people. The exact figure is not known. Revolutionary Socialist countries do not hold national censuses, because it is ultimately unimportant how many individual people exist in its borders. What matters is how many wills the country is motivated by, how many purposes the country seeks to fulfill, and how many directions the country is moving in - and the answer to all of these questions is "one".

Majority/Official Culture: The people of the North Atlantic SAR are enlightened, not burdened down by the false consciousnesses of aesthetics, behavioural norms, histories, traditions, and other petty regional distinctions that counterrevolutionaries use to divide the human race. Revolutionary Socialism is and will always be the only culture the North Atlantic SAR could possibly need. To help defend this culture against foreign subversion, most people in the North Atlantic SAR speak Esperanto-B, an improved and enhanced version of the constructed language Esperanto, which has been optimised to make communication both efficient and orthodox.

Majority/State Religion: The people of the North Atlantic SAR need no faith but faith in Revolutionary Socialism, nor have they need for belief except belief in the Commissar.

Major Industries / Economic sectors: The North Atlantic SAR has an enormous manufacturing and construction sector for a country of its level of development, producing everything from bombs to beakers, from machine parts to particle accelerators.
Amount of Industrialization: Fully industrialised, with the first hints of transition away from a manufacturing economy to a service economy starting to show.
Economic Description: In counterrevolutionary societies, people go about life like zombies, without purpose or direction, needing to be distracted away from their miseries and existentialism by material comforts and cheap entertainment. Not so in the North Atlantic SAR, under the guiding banner of Revolutionary Socialism. Revolutionary Socialism gives people all the purpose they could possibly need in life, all the happiness a person can dream of, all the comfort and belonging that an alienated industrial worker craves. Therefore, the North Atlantic SAR has no need to waste valuable industrial production on such frivolities as consumer goods. With the ideology of Revolutionary Socialism providing the citizenry with everything that their mind and soul desires, the material economy of concrete objects only needs to satisfy the needs of the physical body, the necessities of survival. All material resources not needed to fulfill these basic needs are assigned to military production, for the liberation of occupied regions, to industrial investment, for the future, and to scientific research, for the transformation of nature.

Technological Level: Mid-nuclear (comparable to real-life 1970s).
Magic and other shenanigans? (If any exists): The technicians of the North Atlantic SAR have developed extremely sophisticated technologies around everything concerning the human mind. Interrogation/torture, reprogramming, emotional control medication, all these and more have been developed to a degree that would inspire the jealousy and fear even of societies that are more advanced in general technology.

Military Description

Army: Given the particular geographic situation of the North Atlantic SAR, the country prioritises its seagoing and airbourne assets more than its ground military assets. While the North Atlantic ground forces are extremely large, it is also extremely poorly armed with almost no mechanised or armoured units at all. Nominally the North Atlantic Army contains seven divisions of 12,000 troops each, alongside some small (and, in open warfare, irrelevant) auxiliary units, but in reality this number fluctuate upwards and downwards as new cohorts of teenagers are conscripted and casualties are taken. There is little standardisation in equipment between the divisions, with the Army being equipped with whatever is available at any given time - the downside of fielding such a large military on a limited industrial base.

Navy: Reykjavik-Keflavik was a significant naval base within the North Atlantic SAR. The Event only brought over forces that were on Iceland at the time, which for the Army and the Air Force represents only a small fraction of the SAR's pre-Event military capabilities, but for the Navy represents a fairly large proportion of it - almost a quarter of the SAR's surface force. It consists of 10 cruisers, 23 destroyers, 9 frigates, 17 submarines, 8 nuclear missile submarines, 9 mine warfare ships, 14 amphibious assault vessels, and some light auxiliary craft. Considering that Iceland alone doesn't have remotely the industrial capability to support this sizable force, questions will soon be asked on what corners need be cut to ensure that Iceland's wall of steel and cannon remain afloat.

Air Force: Much like the Army and the Navy, the numbers of the Air Force are in flux, with numbers going up as soon as new equipment can be produced and going down in particularly costly combat operations with many casualties. As of the Event the North Atlantic Air Force fields 70 strategic bombers, 15 ground support fighters, 3 strategic reconnaissance aircraft, 20 light reconnaissance aircraft, 40 heavy fighters, 120 light fighters, 60 air refueling craft, 60 transport craft of varying sizes, 6 early warning and control craft, and 10 light control craft.

National Goals: Liberate humanity from the tyranny of counterrevolutionary tyrants and ensure that all people everywhere are governed under the enlightening hand of Revolutionary Socialism.

History: Long ago, all mankind lived in pre-revolutionary societies. In such societies, the vast majority of the population were serfs or peasants, scratching a living out of the dirt with subsistence farming. These people were ruled over by the small minority of the population, which depending on culture called themselves the nobility, capitalists, or priests. This so-called "upper class" completely owned the peasants, and could do whatever they liked with them. Children and old people were taken away and murdered so that the upper classes could keep the population at the level that they desired. Scientific progress was slow, because the only people who knew anything about the world was the upper class and the upper class was too busy abusing the peasants to transform nature. The labours of the peasants was exploited to ensure that the upper class could live in luxuries without ever having to work, and the bodies of the peasants were abused for the benefit, or sometimes just the amusement, of the upper class. It was the duty of every peasant to commit suicide if the upper class no longer approved of their existence.

Then the Party came into existence, led by the Commissar, who loved the peasants. Wielding the dual powers of industry, which allowed humanity to be liberated from the constraints of material deprivation, and science, which allowed nature itself to be bent to humanity's will, the Commissar and the Party uplifted the peasantry into the proletariat, who no longer worked for the benefits of a useless upper class but worked for the advancement of Revolutionary Socialism. Knowing that the upper class would do everything in their power to return the new proletariat to ignorance and abuse, and knowing that they would never give up their idle and useless lifestyle voluntarily, the proletariat across Eurasia rose up and overthrew the yokels placed upon them. While many wanted to just get rid of the upper class, the Commissar was generous and loving even to her former enemies, and allowed the surviving nobility, capitalists, and priests to pay penance for their sins, however insufficient it might be to truly absolve them, by permitting them to sacrifice themselves on the battlefield for the triumph of Revolutionary Socialism.

With the resources of society now no longer wasted fulfilling the idle whims of the upper class, Revolutionary Socialism transformed the world. All men and women in Eurasia joined the Party, which used the vast resources freed up from petty decadence to transform nature for humanity's progress, to elevate humanity away from the apes they once were and towards the gods they are destined to be. But this was not true everywhere. In many parts of the world, the upper class used brutal and inhumane methods to barbarically slaughter all who tried to join the Party in their regions, and even now in these regions the upper class continue to terrorise and abuse the peasantry, preventing from being enlightened. It is thus the duty of every enlightened proletariat to go out there and struggle, for the sake of the ignorant who are still forced to be serfs, and liberate them in the name of Revolutionary Socialism.

What do you mean this isn't true, Julianne? You think this isn't the truth? What is the truth? What is the past? Is there a single piece of evidence, a single line of written text, even a single mote of dust, that disproves the facts as I have listed them? No? Then what arrogance, what stupidity, what insanity you have, to consider your one mind, which hasn't even been around for thirty years and will no doubt not exist for another thirty, to be more correct and more knowledgeable than the collected wisdom of the four hundred thousand who know the facts of history as I have stated them. Wake up, Julianne. Wake up from your delusion.

#POD 3 (don't remove this!)

Ohh boi, surprised you didn’t want any more than that but this does look quite interesting. Accepted!
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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:31 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ohh boi, surprised you didn’t want any more than that but this does look quite interesting. Accepted!

If Fennoscandia drops I'll expand the application to include the rest of the SAR, but for now, eh. This is fine.

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Postby Greater Redosia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:31 am

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ohh boi, surprised you didn’t want any more than that but this does look quite interesting. Accepted!

If Fennoscandia drops I'll expand the application to include the rest of the SAR, but for now, eh. This is fine.


Maybe you should also take Greenland, since I doubt anyone else is gonna take it.
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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:35 am

Greater Redosia wrote:Maybe you should also take Greenland, since I doubt anyone else is gonna take it.

Greenland's tiny population and tinier industrial base isn't worth sacrificing the aesthetically pleasing borders that come from just controlling a single island. :p

Iceland + Greenland just looks weird without Norway also being in there.

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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:38 am

Whelp, looks like we have another totalitarian regime on the list. This world really is lacking liberal or socialist democracies ain’t it?
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Pan Asia Broadcasting Channel: "We will achieve communism in 20 years." - Chairman Wei Yenwu, Central Government | Automation of industries threatens millions of jobs, says economic advisors

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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:39 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Whelp, looks like we have another totalitarian regime on the list. This world really is lacking liberal or socialist democracies ain’t it?

I mean, I normally play Northern Europe as a socialist democracy, but I really did not think that going with a "normal-ish" country idea would be particularly good for this RP.

Embracy the crazy, OP. Give crazy a biiiig hug.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:40 am

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Whelp, looks like we have another totalitarian regime on the list. This world really is lacking liberal or socialist democracies ain’t it?

I mean, I normally play Northern Europe as a socialist democracy, but I really did not think that going with a "normal-ish" country idea would be particularly good for this RP.

Embracy the crazy, OP. Give crazy a biiiig hug.

Ahh yes, insanity ultimately rules in the end. Not gonna lie Europe is looking particularly dark this time around. Ain’t no chummy soviets nor Swedish soc dems.
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Pan Asia Broadcasting Channel: "We will achieve communism in 20 years." - Chairman Wei Yenwu, Central Government | Automation of industries threatens millions of jobs, says economic advisors

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Postby Dansha » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:44 am

Just various authoritarian and fascist regimes.

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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:45 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ahh yes, insanity ultimately rules in the end. Not gonna lie Europe is looking particularly dark this time around. Ain’t no chummy soviets nor Swedish soc dems.

I mean, if Fennoscandia drops I suppose I could do my usual Northern European democracy. That would be interesting in itself because it'll be a little liberal island surrounded by empires. :p

Pull the cyberpunk Scandinavia I usually play in Arvenia's RPs in here, maybe. It'll contrast with the European Empire more nicely than just doing a generic socialist democracy.

But for now...

Embrace Revolutionary Socialism.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:49 am

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ahh yes, insanity ultimately rules in the end. Not gonna lie Europe is looking particularly dark this time around. Ain’t no chummy soviets nor Swedish soc dems.

I mean, if Fennoscandia drops I suppose I could do my usual Northern European democracy. That would be interesting in itself because it'll be a little liberal island surrounded by empires. :p

Pull the cyberpunk Scandinavia I usually play in Arvenia's RPs in here, maybe. It'll contrast with the European Empire more nicely than just doing a generic socialist democracy.

But for now...

Embrace Revolutionary Socialism.

Hah, there definitely would be a contrast for sure. But we shall wait and see.

Naturally, the Empire shall reject the false ideology that is your "revolutionary socialism". Smells like Beutelism to us, and there is nothing worse than a red Beutelist.
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Postby Dansha » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:50 am

The SAAR is going to be rather horrified by its neighbour, that's for sure.

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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:50 am

Dansha wrote:The SAAR is going to be rather horrified by its neighbour, that's for sure.

Shhh, you learn of all those things later. As of now we're just your typical friendly imperialists!
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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:52 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Naturally, the Empire shall reject the false ideology that is your "revolutionary socialism". Smells like Beutelism to us, and there is nothing worse than a red Beutelist.

Crush the counterrevolutionaries, educate the Continent's citizens!

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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:56 am

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Naturally, the Empire shall reject the false ideology that is your "revolutionary socialism". Smells like Beutelism to us, and there is nothing worse than a red Beutelist.

Crush the counterrevolutionaries, educate the Continent's citizens!

Flashbacks to the revolutions of 1917. It seems once again the ghosts of Reinhard Beutel and Karl Marx haunt all of Europa...
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Revolutionary Communist State set in Asia. PMT.
NS stats are not used.
Actively funding left-wing "terrorist" organizations since its founding.

Pan Asia Broadcasting Channel: "We will achieve communism in 20 years." - Chairman Wei Yenwu, Central Government | Automation of industries threatens millions of jobs, says economic advisors

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Postby Plzen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:58 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Flashbacks to the revolutions of 1917. It seems once again the ghosts of Reinhard Beutel and Karl Marx haunt all of Europa...

Beutel? Marx? Who's that? Counterrevolutionary historical revisionists...

The Party has always been led by the Commissar, who is the original and best Revolutionary Socialist that will live forevermore in mankind's hearts. Everyone knows that.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:02 pm

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Flashbacks to the revolutions of 1917. It seems once again the ghosts of Reinhard Beutel and Karl Marx haunt all of Europa...

Beutel? Marx? Who's that? Counterrevolutionary historical revisionists...

The Party has always been led by the Commissar, who is the original and best Revolutionary Socialist that will live forevermore in mankind's hearts. Everyone knows that.

Well in the end it matters little to us, for your Beutelist lies are nothing more than rubbish! Equality between men is an inherently flawed concept, and it shall forever be proper for those of high birth and status to crush the social inferiors that stand below them!

Naturally, we hope other nations agree with these sentiments.
Revolutionary Communist State set in Asia. PMT.
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Actively funding left-wing "terrorist" organizations since its founding.

Pan Asia Broadcasting Channel: "We will achieve communism in 20 years." - Chairman Wei Yenwu, Central Government | Automation of industries threatens millions of jobs, says economic advisors

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Postby Wysten » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:03 pm

Plzen wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Flashbacks to the revolutions of 1917. It seems once again the ghosts of Reinhard Beutel and Karl Marx haunt all of Europa...

Beutel? Marx? Who's that? Counterrevolutionary historical revisionists...

The Party has always been led by the Commissar, who is the original and best Revolutionary Socialist that will live forevermore in mankind's hearts. Everyone knows that.

Surrounded by Bolsheviks and Germans, fantastic.
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