The Cold War RP (OOC, Open)

[Agarntrop]

Korea's godmodding. They have a literacy rate of 20% at this time and have just been ravaged by WW2. No one in that situation has like 1000 aircraft.

[Kamchakta]

Korea's godmodding. They have a literacy rate of 20% at this time and have just been ravaged by WW2. No one in that situation has like 1000 aircraft.

Actually yeah, I agree my literacy rate may have been too high but actually a lot of Koreans were literate in Japanese. The Korean language was struggling. WW2 has affected us but actually Korea was not "ravaged". It remained relatively untouched from Allied bombing. The damage of the 1950s was mostly due to the Korean War. I constantly make references to that fact. Plus, I have kept my GNP and GDP per capita figures low. I am waiting for 1960s or 1970s before I actually start growing.

The 1000 aircraft is making reference to all the old Japanese aircraft stationed here. Including A6 Zeros with their propellors removed. A lot of Japanese equipment was stationed in Korea at the end of the war.

Also, if you think my Army is too large, I beg to differ. The Navy is also alright since the destroyers were Japanese destroyers based at Incheon and Pusan and the patrol boats I refer to as corvettes might be wooden boats with small guns. I refer to them vaguely if that has caused any confusion.

I have a feeling you are making the assumption that everything is modern and new which is wrong. One good example is Iran in the modern world. She may have 2000 tanks but half of them are old and obsolete. Don't just look at the numbers, think.

So before you throw accusations that I am god modding please look at my posts. I actually hate god modders and I have dealt with one before in another Cold War RP as the Soviet Union.

Also, your RP post can improve in quality.

[Chinese Kaohsiung]

Korea's godmodding. They have a literacy rate of 20% at this time and have just been ravaged by WW2. No one in that situation has like 1000 aircraft.

Actually yeah, I agree my literacy rate may have been too high but actually a lot of Koreans were literate in Japanese. The Korean language was struggling. WW2 has affected us but actually Korea was not "ravaged". It remained relatively untouched from Allied bombing. The damage of the 1950s was mostly due to the Korean War. I constantly make references to that fact. Plus, I have kept my GNP and GDP per capita figures low. I am waiting for 1960s or 1970s before I actually start growing. The 1000 aircraft is making reference to all the old Japanese aircraft stationed here. Including A6 Zeros with their propellors removed. A lot of Japanese equipment was stationed in Korea at the end of the war.

So before you throw accusations that I am god modding please look at my posts. I actually hate god modders and I have dealt with one before in another Cold War RP as the Soviet Union.

Also, your RP post can improve in quality.

Lol same. I have to wait till like 1970 before my economy is theoretically big enough that I can actually play a bigger role in global affairs.

BTW just a question, why does spain have more trainer aircraft than actual combat aircraft? I thought it's supposed to be the other way round.
Also, Amoured Fighting Vehicles can mean practically any vehicle that has armor bolted on it. I think your's meant IFVs (Infantry fighting Vechiles) right? or are they APCs? (Armored Personnel Carriers)

[Greater Seludong]

I don't know what just happened but it seemed it's been resolve now

I repeated my registration as a revolutionary government instead.

Country Name: Kataas-taasang, Kagalang-galangang Katipunan ng mga Anak ng Bayan (KKK)
Head of State/Government: Manuel Roxas (supremo of the organization)
Type of Government: revolutionary government
Capital: Manila (claimed)
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here):

Claimed area

(Image)

Population: 1, 874, 092 (rebel count according to rebel sources)
Faction: non-aligned
History:

After the Second World War, as the US seized the Philippines and did not keep the promise of freedom, members of the Congress of the former Commonwealth created new groups, both moderate and radical, to force the US government to culminate the occupation of the Philippines.

On March 3, 1946, a riot happened just 5 meters away from the outskirts of Camp McKinley in Taguig, part of the metropolitan area of Manila. The riot, initiated by the communist Hukbong Bayan Laban sa mga Hapones or the Hukbalahap, was immediately suppressed by the United States Armed Forces in the Far East (USAFFE) and resulted into a massacre. This caused huge outrage among the populace and almost all Filipino Commonwealth officials resigned their positions (in fact, the Congress only remained with only one member of the House of Representatives and no Senators.) Filipino members of the USAFFE also created their own paramilitary groups.

Manuel Roxas was then elected as the President of the Pambansang Hukbo para sa Kasarinlan (PHK), composed of mostly pro-Nacionalista Party. He initiated meetings with other revolutionary groups, including Hukbalahap, and re-established the Katipunan, a revolutionary government made on 1894. As the people as increasingly discontent with American rule, more and more Filipinos joined the Hukbong Rebolusyonaryo, the militaristic arm of the Katipunan. Roxas was then elected as the Supremo at the Convention of the Biak-na-Bato.

Is there any reason the US decided not to allow the Philipines to be independent after WW2? (And the US player has been inactive lately too..)

Someone also asked a political alliance map: https://i.imgur.com/2LHDbAP.png

There was like a law passed in the US that delays the independence of the Philippines for 10 more years. Although the stated reason is that there is a need for American administration of the rehabilitation and reconstruction in the PH. But there is an article there, enabling American citizens to control the natural resources of the colony, which was suspected as the real reason for the passage of the law.

[Greater Seludong]

Country Name: Republic of Malaysia
Head of State/Government: President Yusof bin Ishak Prime Minsiter Lee Kuan Yew
Type of Government:Unitary dominant-party parliamentary constitutional republic
Capital City: Singapore:
Map/location Present day Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Population 8.5 million people:
Faction Non aligned but pro NATO:
History: After World War Two, The Malayan Union, established in 1946, and consisting of all the British possessions in the Malay Peninsula, was quickly dissolved under local pressure and replaced on 1 February 1948 by the Federation of Malaya, which restored the autonomy of the rulers of the Malay states under British protection.During this time, mostly rebels under the leadership of the Malayan Communist Party launched guerrilla operations designed to force the British out of Malaya.On 31 August 1957, Malaysia became an independent nation after coming into agreement with the MCP. The MCP would disband and Malaysia would become independent, British forces are still allowed to base their forces in the territory.

(Yeah. Ik the British Empire is still a thing but please can I have this?)

So sad that Sabah was taken already.

[Dentali]

Its NUKE time. To Australia, or off the coast by about 50 miles.

You cannot have a nuclear program 3 years early, speaking as both CO-OP and a player

[Dentali]

Thats what we do in another rp that I participate in.

We should get one for this one too then.

please no

[Kamchakta]

Lol same. I have to wait till like 1970 before my economy is theoretically big enough that I can actually play a bigger role in global affairs.

BTW just a question, why does spain have more trainer aircraft than actual combat aircraft? I thought it's supposed to be the other way round.
Also, Amoured Fighting Vehicles can mean practically any vehicle that has armor bolted on it. I think your's meant IFVs (Infantry fighting Vechiles) right? or are they APCs? (Armored Personnel Carriers)

Having more trainer aircraft for Spain is weird (Not affected by WW2) but it's plausible for some other nations. Like Korea had a lot of trainer Japanese aircraft so now its disproportionately higher in our air force. Our what we consider and air force lol. Also yeah, AFV can refer to anything.

[Agarntrop]

Korea's godmodding. They have a literacy rate of 20% at this time and have just been ravaged by WW2. No one in that situation has like 1000 aircraft.

Actually yeah, I agree my literacy rate may have been too high but actually a lot of Koreans were literate in Japanese. The Korean language was struggling. WW2 has affected us but actually Korea was not "ravaged". It remained relatively untouched from Allied bombing. The damage of the 1950s was mostly due to the Korean War. I constantly make references to that fact. Plus, I have kept my GNP and GDP per capita figures low. I am waiting for 1960s or 1970s before I actually start growing.

The 1000 aircraft is making reference to all the old Japanese aircraft stationed here. Including A6 Zeros with their propellors removed. A lot of Japanese equipment was stationed in Korea at the end of the war.

Also, if you think my Army is too large, I beg to differ. The Navy is also alright since the destroyers were Japanese destroyers based at Incheon and Pusan and the patrol boats I refer to as corvettes might be wooden boats with small guns. I refer to them vaguely if that has caused any confusion.

I have a feeling you are making the assumption that everything is modern and new which is wrong. One good example is Iran in the modern world. She may have 2000 tanks but half of them are old and obsolete. Don't just look at the numbers, think.

So before you throw accusations that I am god modding please look at my posts. I actually hate god modders and I have dealt with one before in another Cold War RP as the Soviet Union.

Also, your RP post can improve in quality.

I understand, please don't feel butthurt.

[Agarntrop]

Lol same. I have to wait till like 1970 before my economy is theoretically big enough that I can actually play a bigger role in global affairs.

BTW just a question, why does spain have more trainer aircraft than actual combat aircraft? I thought it's supposed to be the other way round.
Also, Amoured Fighting Vehicles can mean practically any vehicle that has armor bolted on it. I think your's meant IFVs (Infantry fighting Vechiles) right? or are they APCs? (Armored Personnel Carriers)

Having more trainer aircraft for Spain is weird (Not affected by WW2) but it's plausible for some other nations. Like Korea had a lot of trainer Japanese aircraft so now its disproportionately higher in our air force. Our what we consider and air force lol. Also yeah, AFV can refer to anything.

I just took the statistics from a website with the current Spanish armed forces and scaled it down, I thought that would be the most accurate way to do it.

[Asardia]

This came out of nowhere, with not even one post(?) talking about it previously. The US ended aid with the British for their nuclear project, and I see no reason why you would be able to test a nuke successfully three years before they did. To my knowledge, nothing changed there to make the project increase so quickly

1 test, not finished. I'm planning for actual finish and ending of Tube Alloys around late 1950-early 51. If i must, ill wait till late 50 for first test.

You literally had one post suddenly talk about how a nuke was tested successfully. I'm not sure how that's "not finished". Also, what do you mean by "If i must, ill wait till late 50 for first test"?

Like I asked earlier, what changed here in the RP to allow you to build and successfully test a nuclear weapon three years before the UK did historically? All your posts before the (now deleted?) nuke test didn't even address a full nuclear program or hint that it was this far. This is blatant godmodding

Should we have a Discord for our OOC stuff? that way we can resolve issues instantly?

I personally believe the OOC is just fine for that

Name of faction: 26th of July Movement
Leader: Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Raul Castro, Camilo Cienfuegos, Juan Almeida Bose.
Influence (number of members and power) In the tens of thousands, the number is kept discreet.
Base of operations: Cuba, Sierra Maestra mountains.
Goals The overthrow of the Batista government and the installation of a civilian administration, headed by the leaders of the 26th of July Movement. The second goal is to establish a socialist government in its replacement.
History Spurred by the recent success of socialist development internationally, a left-wing nationalist movement in Cuba is born to expel Fulgenico Batista and end American influence on the Caribbean island.

This is about 4 years early, but a revolutionary group in Cuba would still work.

I have an idea: Hey Asardia do you think you can secretly fund a Communist rebellion in Venezuela to overthrow the democratic government? I think this would spice things up plus there isn't anything happening in the Americas. What do you think?

Yeah I can do that.

[Hypron]

1 test, not finished. I'm planning for actual finish and ending of Tube Alloys around late 1950-early 51. If i must, ill wait till late 50 for first test.

You literally had one post suddenly talk about how a nuke was tested successfully. I'm not sure how that's "not finished". Also, what do you mean by "If i must, ill wait till late 50 for first test"?

Like I asked earlier, what changed here in the RP to allow you to build and successfully test a nuclear weapon three years before the UK did historically? All your posts before the (now deleted?) nuke test didn't even address a full nuclear program or hint that it was this far. This is blatant godmodding.

For the now deleted?: I decided to back off and wait. After thinking about it I decided to agree with this. Plus, also, Britain's nuclear program began in 1942. During 1949, it was known as the High Explosive Research project, relaunched after the US Atomic Energy Act of 1946.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Alloys

[Asardia]

You literally had one post suddenly talk about how a nuke was tested successfully. I'm not sure how that's "not finished". Also, what do you mean by "If i must, ill wait till late 50 for first test"?

Like I asked earlier, what changed here in the RP to allow you to build and successfully test a nuclear weapon three years before the UK did historically? All your posts before the (now deleted?) nuke test didn't even address a full nuclear program or hint that it was this far. This is blatant godmodding.

For the now deleted?: I decided to back off and wait. After thinking about it I decided to agree with this. Plus, also, Britain's nuclear program began in 1942. During 1949, it was known as the High Explosive Research project, relaunched after the US Atomic Energy Act of 1946.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Alloys

I'm not sure why you linked that wiki article. It doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know, nor does it explain your attempts at creating nuclear weapons early.

[United Elemental Nations]

Is it alright if I started my own nuclear weapons program? It would take awhile to do it but I can get help from the US and the UK.

[Lemlar]

Is it alright if I started my own nuclear weapons program? It would take awhile to do it but I can get help from the US and the UK.

If using todays tech, Chavez would need 3 years to fully study the uranium deposits, I would say it would be impractical to start one, especially if the US already has nukes and UK has infrastructure and the right scientists to do so. Just make a defence treaty w the US tbh.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I am sorry for not posting ICly yet, but I have been immensely busy.

[Asardia]

I don't know what just happened but it seemed it's been resolve now



Is there any reason the US decided not to allow the Philipines to be independent after WW2? (And the US player has been inactive lately too..)

Someone also asked a political alliance map: https://i.imgur.com/2LHDbAP.png

There was like a law passed in the US that delays the independence of the Philippines for 10 more years. Although the stated reason is that there is a need for American administration of the rehabilitation and reconstruction in the PH. But there is an article there, enabling American citizens to control the natural resources of the colony, which was suspected as the real reason for the passage of the law.

Forgot to say this but this is accepted

Is it alright if I started my own nuclear weapons program? It would take awhile to do it but I can get help from the US and the UK.

Do note it took the USSR years of spying and having actual German scientists to test a nuke. The UK tested theirs 8 years after the Americans, the French did so 15 years later, and China was nearly 20 years later. A nuclear weapons program would be the equivalent of starting a Mars Colony right now. I'm not against it STARTING one, but the only realistic way of attaining nukes here would be to literally ask the US for one. As already stated, a defense treaty would also work

I am sorry for not posting ICly yet, but I have been immensely busy.

I understand.

[Nea Byzantia]

UPDATES

New additions to the Roster:
Republic of Malaysia: Chinese Kaohsiung
Intoarcerea Neamului (anti communist faction): Lemlar
Republic of Korea: Kamchakta

Updated Maps:
World Map
Political Alliance Map

Event System:

I talked about this earlier, and didn't get much of a response. The Felan Federation and Derika will be familiar with this as this was also in the previous RP.

Series Events: When one path is chosen, this may lead to a "series event", which means that the next events will directly stem from the previous event's decisions and will deal with the consequences of that path. For example, choosing option 1 in an event may lead to a protest, which will lead to Event #2's outcome of the protest, whether it results in riots, or just a peaceful demonstration. Choosing a crackdown on the protesters will lead to more riots and opposition and so on. An example of a Series Event would be anti communist movements in the Eastern Bloc. Another is

Standalone Events: These events are more like random things that happen. The response to these events will be more relaxed than the Series Events. An example could be labor strike in the UK. For countries recovering from WW2, you may have some issues like focus on rebuilding, aid, military, etc

i love the event system idea

Same here.

[Nea Byzantia]

We need something to substitute the Korean War now.

How about a Romanian War instead? My anti communists are the South Koreans and the govt is the north. Bulgaria could attempt a secession during the war.

The Greek Empire would probably be very willing to back this...especially the Bulgarian Secessionists; maybe even restore the Bulgarian Monarchy. Has this rebel group already begun operations; cause if so, I'll post about the Imperial Government supplying the rebels, especially the Bulgarian Secessionists.

[Lemlar]

How about a Romanian War instead? My anti communists are the South Koreans and the govt is the north. Bulgaria could attempt a secession during the war.

The Greek Empire would probably be very willing to back this...especially the Bulgarian Secessionists; maybe even restore the Bulgarian Monarchy. Has this rebel group already begun operations; cause if so, I'll post about the Imperial Government supplying the rebels, especially the Bulgarian Secessionists.

If the USSR has it's way Bulgaria at least, would be kept communist, but we'll see.

[Asardia]

How about a Romanian War instead? My anti communists are the South Koreans and the govt is the north. Bulgaria could attempt a secession during the war.

The Greek Empire would probably be very willing to back this...especially the Bulgarian Secessionists; maybe even restore the Bulgarian Monarchy. Has this rebel group already begun operations; cause if so, I'll post about the Imperial Government supplying the rebels, especially the Bulgarian Secessionists.

The Greek Empire would probably be very willing to back this...especially the Bulgarian Secessionists; maybe even restore the Bulgarian Monarchy. Has this rebel group already begun operations; cause if so, I'll post about the Imperial Government supplying the rebels, especially the Bulgarian Secessionists.

If the USSR has it's way Bulgaria at least, would be kept communist, but we'll see.

I think you guys are forgetting how brutal and efficient the Soviets were at repressing protests. The 56 Hungarian Revolution and the 1968 Prague Spring were both out down with invasions. This is also only four years after the end of WW2, so Soviet troops would already be in the Balkans anyway.

Speaking of which, the USSR maintained control over the politics and military of the Eastern Bloc. However I don't want to straight up make decisions without any input.

Also, expect some drafts of the events to pop up later today.

[Nea Byzantia]

The Greek Empire would probably be very willing to back this...especially the Bulgarian Secessionists; maybe even restore the Bulgarian Monarchy. Has this rebel group already begun operations; cause if so, I'll post about the Imperial Government supplying the rebels, especially the Bulgarian Secessionists.

If the USSR has it's way Bulgaria at least, would be kept communist, but we'll see.

I think you guys are forgetting how brutal and efficient the Soviets were at repressing protests. The 56 Hungarian Revolution and the 1968 Prague Spring were both out down with invasions. This is also only four years after the end of WW2, so Soviet troops would already be in the Balkans anyway.

Speaking of which, the USSR maintained control over the politics and military of the Eastern Bloc. However I don't want to straight up make decisions without any input.

Also, expect some drafts of the events to pop up later today.

Sweet. I have no idea how to begin my first post, so it'll probably be in reaction to an Event.

[Hypron]

The probable first response from the Soviet Union's actual army will be with the troops in the Balkans and the 40,000 extra in Hungary. Plus, by day 7 (if it is that wide spread) airborne divisions from the mainland and armored divisions entering through the Ukraine. By that point, even if the revolution had numbers, the Red Army would crush any insurrection.

[Dentali]

The probable first response from the Soviet Union's actual army will be with the troops in the Balkans and the 40,000 extra in Hungary. Plus, by day 7 (if it is that wide spread) airborne divisions from the mainland and armored divisions entering through the Ukraine. By that point, even if the revolution had numbers, the Red Army would crush any insurrection.

do you have military access?

[Lemlar]

The probable first response from the Soviet Union's actual army will be with the troops in the Balkans and the 40,000 extra in Hungary. Plus, by day 7 (if it is that wide spread) airborne divisions from the mainland and armoured divisions entering through the Ukraine. By that point, even if the revolution had numbers, the Red Army would crush any insurrection.

Yea, definitely. The USSR was surprisingly good at taking out any revolutions. My potential revolution may be crushed before gaining any ground. The Soviets would also call on Yugoslavia, and Albania to take action in exchange for financial support.