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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:55 pm

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Endem wrote:By the way, what do you mean in the poll by mythical?

Ancient China tended to turn the Shang and Xia into myths with mythical stories of Demons, Godly intervention, Gods, Dragons, etc.

Sounds good. I have an idea regarding the alt-history modern Chinese:

What if they name great rulers as dragons?

For example, a ruler which elevated China's economic status could be known as the Golden Dragon, a ruler which turned China into a military state (or generally was a militarist) could be known as the Blood Dragon, or a ruler which was extremely diplomatic and charismatic the Silver Dragon.

Of course, they'd have to be first in their category and extremely exceptional to be known as the X Dragon, but still.
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:56 pm

By the way, shouldn't we be starting the IC soon?
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:59 pm

Okay, how many characters can we have?
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:03 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Endem wrote:Okay, how many characters can we have?

As many as you want, one warlord per player however per dynastic cycle/until that character dies or loses(possibly permanently).

Okay, also, what is the Northernmost town in Xia borders on the map
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:15 pm

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Endem wrote:Okay, also, what is the Northernmost town in Xia borders on the map

You can make it up. I'll make a separate city map.

*disgruntled noises* anyway, from where a foreigner could be in China in 1600 B.C
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:32 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Endem wrote:*disgruntled noises* anyway, from where a foreigner could be in China in 1600 B.C

Just outside the borders is one option plenty of tribes existed. In Hebei, Zhongyuan, Jing, Huainan, Yu, Xu, Bing, Yang.

Something further away?
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:41 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Endem wrote:Something further away?

The predecessor cultures to Korea could work or of Vietnam.

Okay... Well, that gets that idea out of the way, maybe a foreign advisor in the court
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:48 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Guys thank you soooo much for being interested! :hug:

This has been my dream RP for years and now it's finally starting!

As for the IC, I'll do something most OP's don't do:

Not post anything. Simply highlight the Xia ruler's issues and national instability. Anyone can RP him at any time just keep it consistent.

I'm doing this to allow maximum freedom and honestly the Xia dynasty isn't my specialty I only know the wikipedia page about the last ruler. :p

You want to know something, Lotharia?

I'm here for the mechanics. I'm not really a fan of these era RPs, but your amazing mechanics and contraptions have made it an interesting RP.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:54 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:You want to know something, Lotharia?

I'm here for the mechanics. I'm not really a fan of these era RPs, but your amazing mechanics and contraptions have made it an interesting RP.

Just curious, elaborate?

I prefer Late PT (Industrial Revolution and up, particularly steampunk) and up usually, but the mechanics here make it worth it.
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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:You want to know something, Lotharia?

I'm here for the mechanics. I'm not really a fan of these era RPs, but your amazing mechanics and contraptions have made it an interesting RP.

It's from the game series that made me a fan of the era I just in my view improved upon it.

Which one? Sounds like something I'd pirate and then buy legally if I feel like it buy completely legally on whatever game platforms it is available on regardless of price, accessibility or compatibility.
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:54 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Guys thank you soooo much for being interested! :hug:

This has been my dream RP for years and now it's finally starting!

As for the IC, I'll do something most OP's don't do:

Not post anything. Simply highlight the Xia ruler's issues and national instability. Anyone can RP him at any time just keep it consistent.

I'm doing this to allow maximum freedom and honestly the Xia dynasty isn't my specialty I only know the wikipedia page about the last ruler. :p

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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm a ROTK guy. Because Koei's strategy game series.

I thus know not too much about the Xia.

If anyone wants to help with the OP to make it more detailed hit me up else it'll function more as a quick "RP START!"

Okay you said to hit you, considered yourself hit
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:00 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I prefer Late PT (Industrial Revolution and up, particularly steampunk) and up usually, but the mechanics here make it worth it.

Which one? Sounds like something I'd pirate and then buy legally if I feel like it buy completely legally on whatever game platforms it is available on regardless of price, accessibility or compatibility.

I meant what mechanics?

And Romance of the 3 kingdoms. I recommend 8 or 10, though 8 is more limited and 10's war is broken-Towers are OP. 11 if you want a ruler focus.

8 is multiplayer as is 11, 10 is single player.

Great music all-around.

The cycles, stats and app.
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Postby Endem » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:22 pm

So, how is the capital named?
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Sup, IC?
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Character Section:
Character Name: Fu Huang
Character Type
(Put Y where applicable)
Ruler(Warlord Fighting For Power):
Warlord(Aka a Strategist):
General:
Politician:
Diplomat: Y
Bandit:
Soldier:
Dancer:
Priest:
Scholar:
Merchant: Y
Peasant:
Mercenary:
Mystic:
Hermit:
Adventurer: Y
Born Noble:
Appointed Noble:
Foreigner:
Born Royalty:
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Bio: Fu Huang was born in what is now present day Wuhan China on the banks of the Yangtze river. As a child, his father was a shopkeeper and his uncles were also shopkeepers. Being raised by them he learned the art of diplomacy, negotiation, and trade. Growing up he apprenticed under his father and uncles and during this time he started to meet strange travelers from afar. These travelers spoke a different language but they brought frankincense, myrrh, and other rare commodities, the likes of which hadn't been seen before in the region. In return Fu Huang would sell silk, rice, jade, and early porcelain pieces to these strangers who didn't speak any language he had heard before. As coin and merchandise flowed from up the Yangtze, Fu Huang studied with a friend from the local royal court and learned about other areas of the region such as the main Chinese dynasty near present day Beijing and other areas further away. Sensing an opportunity, he decided to leave home as a young man and become a traveling merchant to establish his wealth and fame across what would eventually be known as Shandong, Hebei, Henan, Shanxi, and Shaanxi.

Location(If map is up, pick general region or look up china stuff or places you know on there, if not, do the same thing, just a general area): Wuhan - Yangtze River
Territory(If Ruler): None
Personality(Timid, Calm, Bold, or Reckless): Calm
Alignment: True Neutral
Stats(Out of 100):
Leader= 62
Valor= 55
Duel= 37
Intellect= 85
Politics= 60
Foreign= 60
Charisma= 70
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:26 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Sup, IC?

Soon.

I wanna know if y'alll are ok with mostly a "RP START" type post with text describing the Xia weakening and the ruler growing tyrannical.

I'm fine with RP START.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:30 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Hey Farn what will your character do, based on your current plans?

Well, I don't know. Lu Zhishen became a monk to hide out when he got in trouble with the authorities. He mainly traveled around, helping people he met and liked, fighting people he didn't like, drinking to excess, that sort of thing. I figured I could do the same, interacting with people as they go about their plans, maybe breaking a little furniture, uprooting willow trees with my bare hands.

I would suggest people check out the first two of the Four Great Classic Novels of China. I linked The Water Margin in my application. The other, earlier one is The Romance of the Three Kingdoms,which has to do with the breakup of the Han Empire around 200 CE. Wiki has decent synopses of them and translations are available from Tuttle (Three Kingdoms is three volumes, be warned).

Also, Feral/Creative Assembly came out with a Total War game based on The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, called "Three Kingdoms," of all things.

Finally, Netflix has two series, made in China, King's War and Qin Empire: Alliance. The latter covers the rise of the State of Qin towards the end of the 4th century BCE and the former covers the end of the Qin Dynasty, the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu–Han_Contention]Chu-Han Contention[/url] and the establishment of the Han Dynasty. I enjoyed them both.

Farn has been into things Chinese of late.
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Postby The Chuck » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:34 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Hey Farn what will your character do, based on your current plans?

Well, I don't know. Lu Zhishen became a monk to hide out when he got in trouble with the authorities. He mainly traveled around, helping people he met and liked, fighting people he didn't like, drinking to excess, that sort of thing. I figured I could do the same, interacting with people as they go about their plans, maybe breaking a little furniture, uprooting willow trees with my bare hands.

I would suggest people check out the first two of the Four Great Classic Novels of China. I linked The Water Margin in my application. The other, earlier one is The Romance of the Three Kingdoms,which has to do with the breakup of the Han Empire around 200 CE. Wiki has decent synopses of them and translations are available from Tuttle (Three Kingdoms is three volumes, be warned).

Also, Feral/Creative Assembly came out with a Total War game based on The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, called "Three Kingdoms," of all things.

Finally, Netflix has two series, made in China, King's War and Qin Empire: Alliance. The latter covers the rise of the State of Qin towards the end of the 4th century BCE and the former covers the end of the Qin Dynasty, the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu–Han_Contention]Chu-Han Contention[/url] and the establishment of the Han Dynasty. I enjoyed them both.

Farn has been into things Chinese of late.


All I have for reference is that I work in a Chinese restaurant with a bunch of folks from all over China... You pick up a thing or two there :) (But Lord, I still can't figure out what dialects they speak!)
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Character Section:
Character Name: Myong Yong-Su
Character Type
(Put Y where applicable)
Ruler(Warlord Fighting For Power):
Warlord(Aka a Strategist):
General:
Politician: Y
Diplomat: Y
Bandit:
Soldier:
Dancer:
Priest:
Scholar: Y
Merchant:
Peasant:
Mercenary
Mystic:
Hermit:
Adventurer:
Born Noble:
Appointed Noble:
Foreigner: Y
Born Royalty:
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Bio: Born in Korea to a Noble family from the Kingdom of Gojoseon he could and normally would engage in politics and introduce at the court in Liaoning and was fairly successful at it, however soon he found Korean court simply boring because he knew most of what was going on and how to direct the course if various intrigues thus he decided to travel, he eventually found himself in the nearby China, however it would take at least two years until he would reach the Xia territories and additional year until he would be able to go to the court, since then he nearly always had his two cents in some court intrigue or general politics, he eventually became a trusted advisor and finally in 50 year of his life he could say that he has situated himself in the court of the Xia as a real player.
Location(If map is up, pick general region or look up china stuff or places you know on there, if not, do the same thing, just a general area): Yangcheng ( capital )
Territory(If Ruler):
Personality: Calm
Alignment: Lawful Neautral
Stats(Out of 100):
Leader= 30
Valor= 25
Duel= 25
Intellect= 80
Politics= 80
Foreign= 80
Charisma= 70
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Endem wrote:Character Section:
Character Name: Myong Yong-Su
Character Type
(Put Y where applicable)
Ruler(Warlord Fighting For Power):
Warlord(Aka a Strategist):
General:
Politician: Y
Diplomat: Y
Bandit:
Soldier:
Dancer:
Priest:
Scholar: Y
Merchant:
Peasant:
Mercenary
Mystic:
Hermit:
Adventurer:
Born Noble:
Appointed Noble:
Foreigner: Y
Born Royalty:
---------
Bio: Born in Korea to a Noble family from the Kingdom of Gojoseon he could and normally would engage in politics and introduce at the court in Liaoning and was fairly successful at it, however soon he found Korean court simply boring because he knew most of what was going on and how to direct the course if various intrigues thus he decided to travel, he eventually found himself in the nearby China, however it would take at least two years until he would reach the Xia territories and additional year until he would be able to go to the court, since then he nearly always had his two cents in some court intrigue or general politics, he eventually became a trusted advisor and finally in 50 year of his life he could say that he has situated himself in the court of the Xia as a real player.
Location(If map is up, pick general region or look up china stuff or places you know on there, if not, do the same thing, just a general area): Yangcheng ( capital )
Territory(If Ruler):
Personality: Calm
Alignment: Lawful Neautral
Stats(Out of 100):
Leader= 30
Valor= 25
Duel= 25
Intellect= 80
Politics= 80
Foreign= 80
Charisma= 70
-----

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Is Gojoseon that ancient? :blink:

Accepted!

It might have not existed, but, I didn't found anything better, it was founded reportedly in 2333 B.C
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:IC UP!

YEEEEET
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:52 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:YEEEEET

How do you like it?

I tried to make the OP open to interpretation and dark, the characters sympathetic.

Welp, it’s definitely the traditional aristocratic backstabbing and general fuckery.
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If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
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Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:How do you like it?

I tried to make the OP open to interpretation and dark, the characters sympathetic.

Welp, it’s definitely the traditional aristocratic backstabbing and general fuckery.

Very punny.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:56 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Kowani wrote:Welp, it’s definitely the traditional aristocratic backstabbing and general fuckery.

Very punny.

Bows.
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If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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