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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:51 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote::geek:
I'm actually considering how to treat that.

The region's religion basically works around the idea that every family/village/mountain/stream/etc has a god or goddess attached to it. Think like national religions, like the Dimi have X Y Z Gods and the Sesk have A B C gods. Both accept the other's gods exist, its just that they differ over whose are more powerful, etc. Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior as introduced by Joseph is being viewed as a powerful Medicine God from a land far away. Some view him as an ancestral god of Joseph's that came with him on his journey from his distant home. The general view is that Jesus Christ has joined the Dimi's Pantheon. The Jesus Christ spoken of by the Imperials is probably seen as a different God altogether and only Joseph or one of his close disciples who follows the 'true' faith would make the connection. To put it into perspective, perhaps a handful of people accept Christianity in any semblance that we would recognize. The rest merely incorporated Jesus into their preexisting pantheon. After all, Jesus is obviously a powerful god. Look at all the healing Joseph does.


Ah, yes, the hentotheistic pluralism approach. Certainly valid.

I’m just noting that folks at large, beyond the isolated village, may have predispositions and ideas of their own about Christ. Indeed, if you go to major cities or the north, he may already exist in the local pantheons as a god of knowledge or craft, and you’ll start encountering actual monotheistic Christians.

Joseph: Finally I can go to Mass
Peloponnese Theist: Lmao stupid northerners, Jesus is a Healing God.
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Ulls
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Postby Ulls » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:02 pm

I think its been 6 or 7 months since my secret expedition to California left? Would they be able to reach Oregon and the California States yet?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:05 pm

Ulls wrote:I think its been 6 or 7 months since my secret expedition to California left? Would they be able to reach Oregon and the California States yet?


They probably aren’t there yet, but they may be getting close. It took Lewis and Clark about a year to reach Oregon, and they knew the lay of the land better than the Skulk.
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Postby Ulls » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:31 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ulls wrote:I think its been 6 or 7 months since my secret expedition to California left? Would they be able to reach Oregon and the California States yet?


They probably aren’t there yet, but they may be getting close. It took Lewis and Clark about a year to reach Oregon, and they knew the lay of the land better than the Skulk.

I'll put it that they are halfway through Alberta and things like getting colder and frequent snowstorms are causing casualties. They will also have some relations with other hunter-gatherers and probably recruited some to supplement their losses.

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Skarten
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Postby Skarten » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:52 pm

I'm going to make the Actual Chief die in the Battle.
I have a way to make sure there are no heirs without A civil war.

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Postby Ulls » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:58 pm

Skarten wrote:I'm going to make the Actual Chief die in the Battle.
I have a way to make sure there are no heirs without A civil war.

Take it from me, a civil war is bad for everyone but can also be good if done right.

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Postby Skarten » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:01 pm

Ulls wrote:
Skarten wrote:I'm going to make the Actual Chief die in the Battle.
I have a way to make sure there are no heirs without A civil war.

Take it from me, a civil war is bad for everyone but can also be good if done right.

Nah too early boyo.
I'll get the chief Dead in the battle.
His possible heirs would have died before, Probably by sickness since Yaroshima doesn't know crap about medicine (Other than any normal person would)

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:14 pm

Skarten wrote:
Ulls wrote:Take it from me, a civil war is bad for everyone but can also be good if done right.

Nah too early boyo.
I'll get the chief Dead in the battle.
His possible heirs would have died before, Probably by sickness since Yaroshima doesn't know crap about medicine (Other than any normal person would)


Not a bad idea.

You don’t think his brothers/family won’t contest Yaroshima’s rise?
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Postby Skarten » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:25 pm

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Skarten wrote:Nah too early boyo.
I'll get the chief Dead in the battle.
His possible heirs would have died before, Probably by sickness since Yaroshima doesn't know crap about medicine (Other than any normal person would)


Not a bad idea.

You don’t think his brothers/family won’t contest Yaroshima’s rise?

I am planning to be specific.
His 1st Son died of sickness.
His 2nd Son, more recent, Died on his birth, which also includes his Mother.
And seeing he will probably be older, he won't have a lot of family members.
So that would leave only a few Elderly family members (Probably brother/s).
But that if i go with "Probably"
So, He won't be too questioned, principally after this battle, because
1.The warriors will know it was his strategy, as he's going to tell the chief (On the planning, now on next post) "It's your choice, but Here's what we should do-"
2.He was already pretty popular and had a few dozen followers
3.He's going to risk himself in the battle too. He's going to go in the mission to build protection at night, and also he's not just staying in the back while they fight. He won't charge in like a crazy spartan, but you get the idea.

And once Yaroshima controls the village, i'll just prepare for the timeskip.
Following the timeskip,Yaroshima would have convinced a bunch of other tribe leaders to make a "Union" in a sort. Basically unite to defend against raider chieftains and other people.
THey'll still have their Villages and rule them tho, it's just a sort of Tribal union

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:35 pm

Skarten wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Not a bad idea.

You don’t think his brothers/family won’t contest Yaroshima’s rise?

I am planning to be specific.
His 1st Son died of sickness.
His 2nd Son, more recent, Died on his birth, which also includes his Mother.
And seeing he will probably be older, he won't have a lot of family members.
So that would leave only a few Elderly family members (Probably brother/s).
But that if i go with "Probably"
So, He won't be too questioned, principally after this battle, because
1.The warriors will know it was his strategy, as he's going to tell the chief (On the planning, now on next post) "It's your choice, but Here's what we should do-"
2.He was already pretty popular and had a few dozen followers
3.He's going to risk himself in the battle too. He's going to go in the mission to build protection at night, and also he's not just staying in the back while they fight. He won't charge in like a crazy spartan, but you get the idea.

And once Yaroshima controls the village, i'll just prepare for the timeskip.
Following the timeskip,Yaroshima would have convinced a bunch of other tribe leaders to make a "Union" in a sort. Basically unite to defend against raider chieftains and other people.
THey'll still have their Villages and rule them tho, it's just a sort of Tribal union


Hmm, okay. As long as you justify it and talk through the process, that sounds workable.
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Postby Skarten » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:50 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Skarten wrote:I am planning to be specific.
His 1st Son died of sickness.
His 2nd Son, more recent, Died on his birth, which also includes his Mother.
And seeing he will probably be older, he won't have a lot of family members.
So that would leave only a few Elderly family members (Probably brother/s).
But that if i go with "Probably"
So, He won't be too questioned, principally after this battle, because
1.The warriors will know it was his strategy, as he's going to tell the chief (On the planning, now on next post) "It's your choice, but Here's what we should do-"
2.He was already pretty popular and had a few dozen followers
3.He's going to risk himself in the battle too. He's going to go in the mission to build protection at night, and also he's not just staying in the back while they fight. He won't charge in like a crazy spartan, but you get the idea.

And once Yaroshima controls the village, i'll just prepare for the timeskip.
Following the timeskip,Yaroshima would have convinced a bunch of other tribe leaders to make a "Union" in a sort. Basically unite to defend against raider chieftains and other people.
THey'll still have their Villages and rule them tho, it's just a sort of Tribal union


Hmm, okay. As long as you justify it and talk through the process, that sounds workable.

It'll probably be enough tribes to have 1 province.
In a way?

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:32 pm

Hey, Entronium, since you indicated a desire to improve your posts, I thought I would give you a few pointers, put here so others can help.

Entronium wrote:Prologue
Hurttoto was an ordinary kid, had an ordinary life.......
But this all changed when he was suddenly.....elsewhere
In Africa,ethiopia near was a tribe of ape people who he assimilated by burning an enemy tribe and basically became the right hand man for the chief who was named Au'tuc which had ment 'wearer of the land' he had helped out by digging the hole that would soon become the well scouting certian mountains,and 'discovering' salt when the chief had died he was appointed as chief at which point he had begun the expansion....


This entire paragraph should be fleshed out into post after post. A post about landing. A post about gaining the trust of the tribe. A post about aiding the tribe in battle, or two. A post about searching for ores in nearby hills. A post about discovering salt. A post about the passage of time and his role in the tribe. A post about the chief passing onwards and political competition to succeed him as chief. A post about Hurtoto overcoming his adversaries to rise to the position of chieftain.

Africa,ethiopia
So as of recent time he began to send scouts up to the north towards the edge of what we know to be Eritrea...
A letter from one of the scouts read in crypt
"Hurttoto we are here in the spot you've instructed us to travel to, 50 miles north of our town, we shall place the first shelters in this location". End of letter


Here is another great opportunity for more posts. A post about dispatching scouts, instructing them how to travel without being slain by others, what to look for. A post teaching the scouts how to write and record their observations. A post introducing the people of the primitive tribe to the concept of distance. A post describing the results of the initial scouting and your Author's thoughts on the topic.

I'm sure you get the idea. I want to see your posts fleshed out, to turn your Author from a caricature into a character.
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Postby Trinity Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:27 pm

Regarding my current location, what can you recommend of what I can do? What does Yucatan has to offer for tribes?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:31 pm

Trinity Commonwealth wrote:Regarding my current location, what can you recommend of what I can do? What does Yucatan has to offer for tribes?


Hmm. Domesticatable crops. Plenty of fertile land and good timber. Trade with the folks in California, if you get to the west coast.
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Postby Ulls » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:45 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Trinity Commonwealth wrote:Regarding my current location, what can you recommend of what I can do? What does Yucatan has to offer for tribes?


Hmm. Domesticatable crops. Plenty of fertile land and good timber. Trade with the folks in California, if you get to the west coast.

Come to the West Coast, they have good things...

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Postby Trinity Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:23 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Trinity Commonwealth wrote:Regarding my current location, what can you recommend of what I can do? What does Yucatan has to offer for tribes?


Hmm. Domesticatable crops. Plenty of fertile land and good timber. Trade with the folks in California, if you get to the west coast.

But they're way too far away from where I'm at... And that jungle is thick.

Plus i don't know how I'm going to get them to start farming n all...

And chopping trees.

But I suppose I can do that.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:28 pm

Trinity Commonwealth wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm. Domesticatable crops. Plenty of fertile land and good timber. Trade with the folks in California, if you get to the west coast.

But they're way too far away from where I'm at... And that jungle is thick.

Plus i don't know how I'm going to get them to start farming n all...

And chopping trees.

But I suppose I can do that.


Yeah, starting up sedentary agriculture is tough. Even historically, we're not entirely sure why people did it. One theory is that centralizing governments and religions in the form of god-kings pushed people into urbanization, because even though agriculture expended more energy for less calories, people were easier to control in established settlements instead of wandering bands, and could be closer to their places of worship. Another theory is that slow population growth led to competition for highly prized resources, alongside the gradual incidental domestication of crop strains, and thus the development of property rights as certain areas began to be defended by and thought of as belonging to a certain tribe or people-group. If you couldn't just walk off into the forest when the going got lean, you took more interest in how to cultivate the resources you possessed so they could provide for you and your people.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:44 pm

Im making it official, im gonna be back, but not for a little bit.

Go ahead and RP Robert however you want G
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:45 pm

Revlona wrote:Im making it official, im gonna be back, but not for a little bit.

Go ahead and RP Robert however you want G


Alright, no worries. I'll keep him on ice for you. Any ambitions you want to have him fulfill or work towards in the timeskip?
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Postby Revlona » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:47 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Revlona wrote:Im making it official, im gonna be back, but not for a little bit.

Go ahead and RP Robert however you want G


Alright, no worries. I'll keep him on ice for you. Any ambitions you want to have him fulfill or work towards in the timeskip?


Just build up Brittany, make Brittanies army stronger and develop his own shocktroops, and have him attempt to expand his holdings when hes ready, diplomatically or with the sword idc as long as he stays alive.

PS:Have him crack a few heads open every once in a while
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Postby Olthenia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:48 pm

Out of curiosity, what happens if an Author is transported back in time with some debilitating flaw? Like, say, a raging case of alcoholism?

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Postby Ulls » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:50 pm

Revlona wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Alright, no worries. I'll keep him on ice for you. Any ambitions you want to have him fulfill or work towards in the timeskip?


Just build up Brittany, make Brittanies army stronger and develop his own shocktroops, and have him attempt to expand his holdings when hes ready, diplomatically or with the sword idc as long as he stays alive.

PS:Have him crack a few heads open every once in a while

And when he meets the Sunset Invasion?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:51 pm

Olthenia wrote:Out of curiosity, what happens if an Author is transported back in time with some debilitating flaw? Like, say, a raging case of alcoholism?


The nature of being an Author will probably help them overcome all but the most truly incapacitating of issues; Authors are inherently more durable/resilient/healthy than your average denizen of even our own times, mainly because having someone die of an infected dagger wound wouldn't be very interesting to write about.

So if they were a raging alcoholic, they're going to have a gnarly detox, but they'll probably live. Their liver might even improve significantly, for instance.
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Postby Trinity Commonwealth » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:06 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Trinity Commonwealth wrote:But they're way too far away from where I'm at... And that jungle is thick.

Plus i don't know how I'm going to get them to start farming n all...

And chopping trees.

But I suppose I can do that.


Yeah, starting up sedentary agriculture is tough. Even historically, we're not entirely sure why people did it. One theory is that centralizing governments and religions in the form of god-kings pushed people into urbanization, because even though agriculture expended more energy for less calories, people were easier to control in established settlements instead of wandering bands, and could be closer to their places of worship. Another theory is that slow population growth led to competition for highly prized resources, alongside the gradual incidental domestication of crop strains, and thus the development of property rights as certain areas began to be defended by and thought of as belonging to a certain tribe or people-group. If you couldn't just walk off into the forest when the going got lean, you took more interest in how to cultivate the resources you possessed so they could provide for you and your people.

What do you mean? Like, if we had allot of seeds, my character teaches the people how to feed themselves? I'm confused
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:12 pm

Trinity Commonwealth wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Yeah, starting up sedentary agriculture is tough. Even historically, we're not entirely sure why people did it. One theory is that centralizing governments and religions in the form of god-kings pushed people into urbanization, because even though agriculture expended more energy for less calories, people were easier to control in established settlements instead of wandering bands, and could be closer to their places of worship. Another theory is that slow population growth led to competition for highly prized resources, alongside the gradual incidental domestication of crop strains, and thus the development of property rights as certain areas began to be defended by and thought of as belonging to a certain tribe or people-group. If you couldn't just walk off into the forest when the going got lean, you took more interest in how to cultivate the resources you possessed so they could provide for you and your people.

What do you mean? Like, if we had allot of seeds, my character teaches the people how to feed themselves? I'm confused


The trouble isn't really gathering seeds and teaching people agriculture. The trouble is convincing people agriculture is a better use of their time than hunting and gathering when they'll start pretty quickly realizing how difficult it is to live by subsistence agriculture.
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