Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.
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by Democratic East-Asia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:05 pm
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by Brusia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:08 pm
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Attaca's preoccupied with the CIS as of now. The rebels are a secondary threat, seeing that their forces are far more limited. Also, you'll have to note the significantly reduced amount of censorship and overt (the Empire is still human centric) racism against aliens in Oversector 13. Attaca might be a dictator, but he still believes in many of the old republic's ideals. It could actually be possible to get him to listen to a rebel delegate in secret.
by Ascoobis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:10 pm
Brusia wrote:Democratic East-Asia wrote:Attaca's preoccupied with the CIS as of now. The rebels are a secondary threat, seeing that their forces are far more limited. Also, you'll have to note the significantly reduced amount of censorship and overt (the Empire is still human centric) racism against aliens in Oversector 13. Attaca might be a dictator, but he still believes in many of the old republic's ideals. It could actually be possible to get him to listen to a rebel delegate in secret.
If he's willing to meet with a Rebel delegate and focused primarily on the CIS than I imagine he'd be pretty low on the Rebel's hit list. And looking at the character list, it seems there are plenty of Imperial HVTs to keep Havoc Squad occupied.
by Democratic East-Asia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:11 pm
Ascoobis wrote:If he meets with the Rebels he'll be pretty high on Vader's hit list. It'll have to be a private meeting. Perhaps someone disguised as a family member could visit to discuss terms if Attaca agrees to a meeting?
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by Ascoobis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:13 pm
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ascoobis wrote:So it would only be positions in this Oversector(I believe 13 it was) that may be at least more vulnerable to attack?
Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.
by Ascoobis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:17 pm
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ascoobis wrote:If he meets with the Rebels he'll be pretty high on Vader's hit list. It'll have to be a private meeting. Perhaps someone disguised as a family member could visit to discuss terms if Attaca agrees to a meeting?
That's why it would have to be in secret. Also, Attaca would not be the one requesting a meeting, that would simply be too dangerous. Oh yeah, I will add this: Attaca has an 11 year old son. (Treland Attaca)
by The V O I D » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:18 pm
Ascoobis wrote:Democratic East-Asia wrote:Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.
Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?
by Democratic East-Asia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:19 pm
Ascoobis wrote:Yes, a Private meeting which would be requested of Attaca is what I was referring to. Is this son(Or friends of) sympathetic to the other factions? Much like the American Civil War(And any other come to think of it), I would expect this war to also split the loyalties of whole families. Splintering and pitting them against one another.
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by Utceforp » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:22 pm
All known Hyperspace routes periodically pass through star systems, and since the galaxy is very much like a flat disk, maneuvering through hyperspace is an essentially 2-dimensional action. So unless a hyperspace route that travels over the galaxy from one half of Confederacy territory to the other (or passes through deep space without intersecting existing routes and star systems) is discovered, you really can't do that.Ascoobis wrote:Democratic East-Asia wrote:Basically. But if Oversector 13 falls, CIS territory will be linked together (there's actually a gap between CIS space, and that's where Oversector 13 falls) never mind whatever fallout there will be elsewhere.
Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?
by Kulonia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:22 pm
by Ascoobis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:26 pm
The V O I D wrote:Ascoobis wrote:Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.
So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.
by Arana » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:27 pm
The V O I D wrote:Ascoobis wrote:Here's what I don't get about borders in Space. Space is in three-dimensional(I guess 4 if you consider hyperspace), so couldn't the Separatist or any party really just go "over" or "under" Imperial-held systems?
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.
So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.
by Zanera » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:28 pm
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Ascoobis wrote:Yes, a Private meeting which would be requested of Attaca is what I was referring to. Is this son(Or friends of) sympathetic to the other factions? Much like the American Civil War(And any other come to think of it), I would expect this war to also split the loyalties of whole families. Splintering and pitting them against one another.
His son is currently being taught in a private academy, but Attaca does have considerable influence over him. Most of his friends would've been born during the final years of the Republic, but they were really too young to understand. Treland's similar to his father: optimistic, outgoing, and kind. He's still a kid though, and doesn't understand the full extent of the Empire's rule.
by Utceforp » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:28 pm
Kulonia wrote:ANy Jedi want to have met Lomann before Order 66?
by The V O I D » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:33 pm
Arana wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.
So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.
That actually explains a lot.
Is it not possible to just go through enemy territory while in hyperspace though? What's stopping them from just bypassing enemy systems?
Ascoobis wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Hyperspace Lanes only exist as bridges between systems in a direct 2D route, I believe.
So, yes, but only if they want to take X amount of years to travel Y amount of lightyears to do so, and who knows if the Empire hasn't crushed the Separatists in the meantime.
Ah yes. The characteristics and physics of the hyperspace lanes make the concept of borders applicable in space. At least intergalactic borders make sense to me now.
by Democratic East-Asia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:33 pm
Zanera wrote:Do you agree with the Star Destroyer being called the Instiller?
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by Zanera » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:41 pm
The V O I D wrote:Zanera wrote:
So my Star Destroyer gets to fight a major battle with Darth Vader's fleet?
Only thing missing from my happy place is Vader's armor. This is such a depressing line of divergence.
Vader is perfectly fine without the armor. Armored Vader was bad because you couldn't tell what he was thinking or feeling.
Suitless Vader is worse because not only can you see his eyes and face, but if you cross him, the last thing you'll see are his piercing molten yellow-red eyes and a flash of lightning.
by The V O I D » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:42 pm
Zanera wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Vader is perfectly fine without the armor. Armored Vader was bad because you couldn't tell what he was thinking or feeling.
Suitless Vader is worse because not only can you see his eyes and face, but if you cross him, the last thing you'll see are his piercing molten yellow-red eyes and a flash of lightning.
Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.
When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.
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by Brusia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:45 pm
The V O I D wrote:Zanera wrote:
Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.
When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.
That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).
by The V O I D » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:47 pm
Brusia wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.
That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).
But he still looks like Hayden Christensen, and that's not doing his intimidation factor any favors
by Kulonia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:48 pm
Utceforp wrote:Kulonia wrote:ANy Jedi want to have met Lomann before Order 66?
I'm up for Nabhak knowing him. Nabhak's long-term goal at the start of the IC will be rebuilding the Jedi through finding the Jedi who went into hiding after Order 66 and finding new Force-sensitives to recruit, so he could be the one who discovers him on Ord Mantell.
Speaking of Jedi knowing each other, Grand Franc, I think Nabhak and Orus would have been friends, considering they were both scholars and researchers of ancient cultures. Nabhak mostly stayed at the temple because of his duties on the Council of First Knowledge, but I'm sure they would have had lots to talk about whenever Orus and Riyal returned to Coruscant.
by Ascoobis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:50 pm
The V O I D wrote:Zanera wrote:
Part of armored Vader's thing was not being able to tell if he was disappointed in you (you promptly get Force choked to death), and that his armor was scary and that Vader could kill who he wanted with massive authority was all around terrifying.
When I think of suitless Vader all I can think of is bad acting.
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.
That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).
by Kulonia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:51 pm
Ascoobis wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Well, you shouldn't. Now, Vader can literally electrocute/fry people to death for failure as a stern reminder that failure is death.
That is far more terrifying than an invisible hand choking someone to death (though he still does that if they are not present/in the room with him).
That's ensure that he's surrounded by competent people.
Is there some sort of Sith/Imperial uniform that he's going to wear? He's a part of a professional military after all. At least a Palpatine-esque cloak?
by Democratic East-Asia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:52 pm
Brusia wrote:But he still looks like Hayden Christensen, and that's not doing his intimidation factor any favors
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