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Borgevia
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Postby Borgevia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:38 pm

Investing in wartorn areas is the best way to make allies, and prevent future political ailments. Good idea.


The Biscari Massacre in 1943, when US Soldiers opened fired on 71 Italians and 2 Germans, ended differently in Borgovia's universe. In this scenario, the United States only killed 2 Germans and 19 Italians. When nearby Borgovian troops heard gunfire, they rushed over thinking it's an enemy attack on the US-Borgovian base in Sicily. When they witnessed Italians getting killed, Borgovian troops tried to stop the Americans with General Vincente Estrada informing Patton of "needless blood lust towards an honorable, yet defeated enemy". Some Borgovian troops tried to cover the Italian POWs, and when Private Afonso Madureira was shot in the head trying to protect an Italian private, Borgovian troops, both Corpus "Private Arms" and Federal Troops, opened fire in what is seen as a small crossfire between two camps in heat. A total of 9 Americans and 7 Borgovians were hurt of which 3 Americans and 4 Borgovians died from their wounds, 2 Italians were shot but none were fatal in the crossfire.

Borgovians defended the Italians because in the 1940s, Italian-Borgovians make up the plurality of the population (29%) with Chinese, Spanish, French, Turkish, and Portuguese next in that order. Not to mention Borgovia see itself as the 'Fourth Rome' and has a strong affinity to Greece, Italy, Romania, France, Spain, Portugal, Latin America, etc the same way Americans & Brits have some respect for the Germans despite both nations being enemies. In fact, Borgovia tried to pull Spain (neutral but pro-Nazi), Romania, Japan, Thailand, and Italy from the Axis into the Allies since they refused to fight their former allies (Japan & Thailand who broke their Pacific Treaty with China and Vietnam) or "Cultural ancestors" (Romania, Italy, and Spain). Killing Nazis, Bulgarians, Finns, and Hungarians? Oh, they're all in, they'll party in the blood of whoever dare stand against the Fourth Rome. They'll backstab the Soviets and slaughter them too free of charge so long as Romania, Italy, Spain, Japan, and Thailand return to their embrace. It didn't happen, so all Borgovia can do is ensure not too much of Italy, Japan, Thailand, or Romania is destroyed.

Discussion between Borgovia and the United States closed the meetings with no repercussion on either camps.
Was once a ruthless capitalist Corporate State in South America (1800s - 1950s), but has since reformed into a Social Democratic, Federal, Parliamentary Republic whose politics is 90% of my irl views. We're Italo-Spanish-Chinese influenced and thus there's a lot of Chinese and Greco-Roman cultural references.

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Postby New Transeurasia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:55 pm

Borgevia wrote:Investing in wartorn areas is the best way to make allies, and prevent future political ailments. Good idea.


The Biscari Massacre in 1943, when US Soldiers opened fired on 71 Italians and 2 Germans, ended differently in Borgovia's universe. In this scenario, the United States only killed 2 Germans and 19 Italians. When nearby Borgovian troops heard gunfire, they rushed over thinking it's an enemy attack on the US-Borgovian base in Sicily. When they witnessed Italians getting killed, Borgovian troops tried to stop the Americans with General Vincente Estrada informing Patton of "needless blood lust towards an honorable, yet defeated enemy". Some Borgovian troops tried to cover the Italian POWs, and when Private Afonso Madureira was shot in the head trying to protect an Italian private, Borgovian troops, both Corpus "Private Arms" and Federal Troops, opened fire in what is seen as a small crossfire between two camps in heat. A total of 9 Americans and 7 Borgovians were hurt of which 3 Americans and 4 Borgovians died from their wounds, 2 Italians were shot but none were fatal in the crossfire.

Borgovians defended the Italians because in the 1940s, Italian-Borgovians make up the plurality of the population (29%) with Chinese, Spanish, French, Turkish, and Portuguese next in that order. Not to mention Borgovia see itself as the 'Fourth Rome' and has a strong affinity to Greece, Italy, Romania, France, Spain, Portugal, Latin America, etc the same way Americans & Brits have some respect for the Germans despite both nations being enemies. In fact, Borgovia tried to pull Spain (neutral but pro-Nazi), Romania, Japan, Thailand, and Italy from the Axis into the Allies since they refused to fight their former allies (Japan & Thailand who broke their Pacific Treaty with China and Vietnam) or "Cultural ancestors" (Romania, Italy, and Spain). Killing Nazis, Bulgarians, Finns, and Hungarians? Oh, they're all in, they'll party in the blood of whoever dare stand against the Fourth Rome. They'll backstab the Soviets and slaughter them too free of charge so long as Romania, Italy, Spain, Japan, and Thailand return to their embrace. It didn't happen, so all Borgovia can do is ensure not too much of Italy, Japan, Thailand, or Romania is destroyed.

Discussion between Borgovia and the United States closed the meetings with no repercussion on either camps.

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Since the world population is 36 billion in NT's AU, it's believable that there would be worldwide problems with food and clean water. This is actually not true, though this almost did happen in the late 1980s. To solve the problem of food scarcity, the Earth Nations(NT's AU equivalent of the UN) formed the EN Committee on Food & Clean Water Scarcity. To solve the problem of food scarcity, scientists from mostly Europe, Asia and North America developed new forms of wheat and rice that grow taller and produce many more grains. These wheat and rice plants can grow to around 2 meters tall. To solve the problem of water, the committee enacted funds for nations to build water purification plants, with the EN paying for up to 85% of the costs of building such plants. Many countries now had funding and resources to solve their food and water scarcity problems. By 1997, the problems of scarcity had been fixed, and the EN Committee on Food & Clean Water Scarcity was disbanded in 2009.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:58 pm

Excellent. No need for canibalism or culling wars or even plankton based rations . A decente distribution among humanity using giant GMOs. It seems like a certain H.G. Wells novel come true.


In 1964, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state laws banning interracial marriage in the Kattenby v. Delaware case. Back then, that state considered a marriage (granted in Las Palmeras) between a white man and one of our citizens to be illegal and it threatened the domestic arrangement of the Kattenby family, whose man came back to his country for a university job.

Despite it's huge impact in the USA, the case isn't seen as socially groundbreaking by current American liberals, as a major source of the legal victory was Dolores' supposed "whiteness": she had very pale skin and grey-colored eyes though she had other normal neko features (black hair, "somewhat slanted" eyes, sharp canines, the catlike-ears and a tail). Also, in contrast to previous cases over interracial marriages in the United States, the couple had a high social standing: Walter Kattenby was an academically-renowned archaeologist from a wealthy New England WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) family and Lady Dolores came from an impoverished but high-ranking aristocrat background.

Despite catalyzing the victory of interracial marriage Lady Dolores wasn't even seen as a great ally by civil rights activists, she was more fixated on defending her "matrimonial honor" than formally helping a cause. To boot, uptight lady Dolores made sure to have her son present or nearby in many interviews and photoshoots, very well to exploit her son's features (very light brown hair and blue eyes) in the USA's public opinion...even of her formalities (wanting to be addressed as "lady" as a prefix or at least be referred to by her last name by reporters) annoyed many Americans.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:20 am

Ok but why did Delaware view a marriage between a White man and a... neko (?) illegitimate? More importantly, what was the legal status of a marriage between a male neko and a white woman?


Conservative political entities faced heavy, violent backlash immediately after the Great War throughout Europe. The majority viewed the string of conservative politicians all across Europe as responsible for the events that led to the Great War, and the dynamics of the society changed to the point that a great deal of the electorate called for policies that would have been considered radical and out of question only a decade ago. In North Germany, this manifested in the conclusion of the Ober Ost crisis which saw Alfred von Wastrecht-Orenblau resigning from his office after the crisis was resolved in a way he had explicitly expressed dislike for (in particular, he wished to colonize Ober Ost into a number of client states ruled by a small German elite. The crisis was not resolved that way).

Wastrecht-Orenblau's resignation resulted in nearly two decades of socialist, progressive, and liberal politicians taking over the Reichstag, and the new dominant parties reformed at will: the initial von Schmidt government (Social Democrat) passed eight-hour workday, domestic labour reform, works councils, agricultural labour reform, right of civil-service associations, local municipality social welfare relief (split between Reich and States) and important national health insurance, re-instatement of demobilised workers, protection from arbitrary dismissal with appeal as a right, and a regulated wage agreement between 1915 and 1917, while the Ostlau government (Progressive) legalized female suffrage in 1918. Press censorship and union busting were also abolished, giving unrestricted right to laborers to organize into unions, while the welfare system was reformed to increase old-age, sick and unemployed benefits for workers, maximum working 48-hour workweek, restriction on night work, a half-holiday on Saturday, and a break of 36-hours of continuous rest during the week. Health Insurance was extended to wives and daughters without independent income, people only partially capable of gainful employment, people employed in private cooperatives, and people employed in public cooperatives. By 1929, the Conservatives successfully managed to bring down the taxes on capital from 60% (average) to 25% and this was considered the only major success for the conservative factions in the entire Reichstag for the entirety of the first half of the XX century.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:37 am

It's good that the people get perks, but it's sad the only thing the conservatives did was help the rich get richer.

Tianshi was ugly and undesirable as a human. How undesirable, you ask? He accidentally started an entire gang war known as The Catfight, where the leaders of each gang fought not over him, but for the other to take him, so he would leave her alone.
He fell in love with one of the leaders, Camille, in 2017, as her playful flirting was taken seriously as an advance towards him. Once he realizes she was playing him, his feelings started to turn into yandere-style obsession where he tried to have her or kill her. These feelings snuffed out until he gained a new target for his affections, Crystal, late 2018. Crystal rejected him twice and he went on a similar crusade. Mid 2019, the Crystal found out that Camille caused him to be like this, and so confronted her with a "you break it you buy it" argument, demanding that Camille take him so that Crystal doesn't have to put up with him and take responsibility for her actions that resulted in his change of personality. Naturally, Camille refused and instead demanded Crystal to take him instead, stating that he was no longer Camille's problem. This argument heated up until it turned it turned into a full-blown gang war by late 2019 which ended with him finding out about the conflict and deciding to kill both of them for causing him so much pain, forcing them to band together to beat him. Note that he was evil at that time and that all three people are on much better terms now.
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Postby Kaedijork » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:56 am

Sounds like he could use a dating show. Like 'The Bachelor' but for Tianshi, lol. Thats a lot of romantic drama.



In our universe, the IRL Australia is a nation called Athrenia, and it was colonised in the 1250s by a breakaway bunch of vikings from the North African homeland. They left seeking the Holy Land, realised that it didn't exist, and became a secular, multicultural, scandinavian liberal paradise. Kaedijork thus hates them, because Kaeds still think that they are inhabiting the holy land and are race traitors to the great Kaedish ethnicity by not believing. As such, there is an Israel-Palestine relationship between Athrenia and Kaedijork.

For context, the Holy Land is seen as the Apollus-on-earth, comparable to 'Heaven on Earth'. It is the land that the Sun God will descend to and create a worldly heaven for all whites and aryans in Ancient Kaedish scripture. The Holy Land originated as a concept when the nords basically got to North Afrika, started worshipping the Sun, and said "this desert is holy, but we must go hotter! The hotter the land the closer we are to the sun, and thus, the closer we are to Apollus."
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Postby The Stellar Concordat » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:18 am

... Huh. That'd be interesting- A new kind of holy war, but one with vikings. I wonder how combat ends up changing- And how world history, with the fact Australia is found, and colonized, well ahead of schedule...




The Fairfield is the primary 'Capital Ship' of the Grand Navy. A highly experimental design, plans do exist for the Fairfield class to become the new, super-dreadnought of the Stellar Concordat. The ship class itself comes in at 15600 meters long, and has a crew of about 9.8 million. In terms of on-board facilities, it offers full-scale hopsitals, hydroponic bays, small-towns, its own schooling system, and is comparable to an entire nation in terms of the services it offers. In terms of standardized armor protection, it makes use of an all-round total of 150 meters of Stellar-Titanium, of which 1 MM is equivalent to roughly 50 Meters of titanium- Or nearly ‭7,500,000‬ Meters of solid titanium, in equivalent. It also uses highly advanced shielding systems, which are capable of dissipating any energy-based attack... Which means that any attack ship? Will have to contend with it's incredible armor.

The spinal guns of the Fairfield are something to admire, by any measure. Twenty four guns- twelve of which run the length of the monstrous dreadnought. These twelve are 'conventional' planet crackers- Firing a monstrous 500 meter wide, 1500 meter long, shell at 45x FTL speeds. The material the shell are composed out of, Neutranium, had a density of 4555g/cm^3. The total weight is nearly 537,490,000,000‬ Metric Tonnes. The impact of one of these shells is nearly 1.63003e^24 Lbf- 528,208,396,347 Kilotons of TNT worth. One of these is enough to shatter a planet- Let alone 12.

Six more guns are heavy 'Valmir Principle' based weaponry- Capable of wiping out organic, and synthetic, life. These six guns fire energy at a ratio of 3.93003e^33 GigaWatts Per Second, each- Even one of these guns, let alone six, would be enough to swamp any kind of dreadnought of anything lesser than the Fairfield.

This is where the armament differed slightly more- Three guns were dedicated to anti-matter. Each one was terrifying capable- Parked far enough away, it would only take one gun to wipe out an entire sector of planets. The three guns, combined, could do enough damage to wipe out an entire galactic sector.

Then the final guns, the final three- They were specialized. Where-as all the other armament was non-tracking... The final three guns were miracles of engineering. Each one fired a so-called 'HyperFire' beam. The full damage of the final three guns had yet to be fully quantified- Nobody wants to unleash the monstrous guns at their full power. A single test firing, at 15% power, almost wiped out an entire galaxy. As such, guns are limited to 1-5% during combat firings- Which is rare. During, and after, firing, the energy composition of the shot can be modified, which allows the beam to 'turn'- In a massive degree. Unlike the limited 5-15 degrees that a conventional planet-cracker can turn. One of these shots, in tests, turned in a full 360 degree circle, and the rare combat-firing only confirms how terrifying these beams are.


In terms of other armament, the Fairfield makes use of it's quad-gun levels to octuple it's conventional gun-fire. Whereas a typical dreadnought of it's size would have 16, quad-barreled Cascade Guns- The Fairfield has over 100. Arrayed with 50 a side, the broadside firepower can decimate entire fleets. It's vast array of anti-frames, missiles, torpedo tubes, and electronic warfare systems also means it can hold off fleets.

In terms of speed, the Fairfield is also one of the fastest non-fighter craft in existence, with an average combat speed of 49.05% the speed of light- .0045% faster than many of it's counterparts.

Total production cost for a single Fairfield unit is 190,000,000 Trillion Stellar Credits- Or 15 times the amount of earth's yearly GDP.

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Postby An Inkling World » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:22 pm

Well, that's expensive. It's a spaceship that costs 15 times the Earth's daily GDP. What can I expect from a nation that spans multiple galaxies though?




The race that inhabited Earth before the current Era, Humanity, has surely impacted the modern livelihood of the world. However, the extent of the Human inpact of the planet goes much further than a majority of current day technology being inspired by Human technology, or just reverse-engineered.

The so-called Mega-Relics are just Human cities, settlements and villages that existed before or after the Great Decay. One of these Mega-Relics is the city of Colamba, in the ancient state of Ohaia, in the sole superpower of the Human world, the United States.

Other nations have their Mega-Relics, though, with Cesia being one of them. Vealia also has the most extensive array of Human technology, along with Londia and Fransa.
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Postby Borgevia » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:02 pm

Ruins of past civilisations should at least scare your people the same way ruins of alien civilization should cause a scare of eventual human extinction being much nearer.


The fall of the Ottoman Empire in the 1920s was actually a horrendous event for many Slavic, Albanian, Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Yazidi, and Georgian minorities in Borgovia. In one post-war event, thousands to millions of Borgovians lost their rights overnight simply because they can no longer identify as "Ottoman-Borgovian" but rather as the aforementioned with only Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Jews, and Turks being allowed to keep their "Civilised" racial caste. Overnight, marriages between a Turkish and Kurdish couples got annulled simply because marrying "subhumans" is illegal as it'll dilute the "genes of the civilised race".

Macedonians have to surrender their identity and be labeled as Greek, Albanians (with the help of the Japanese-Borgovian Corpus elite Nishimura) convinced the government they're Greco-Turks, Azerbaijanis identify themselves as Persians, and it was the Ethiopian-Borgovians that convinced the Corpus that Yazidis are a "Semitic Race" like the Mizrahi/Ashkenazi/Sephardi Jews or Arabs. Only then can those groups be later reclaim their former rights prior to the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Of all those groups, Albanians were the most privileged of the "ascended races" since they're the first, and a Corpus Board member who controls god-like influence over South America's media empires is married to an Albanian-Borgovian who taught mathematics. The 'model minority' image of Albanians and connection to Japanese-Borgovians over marriage (the kind of marriage that led to the eventual Albanian 'promotion') helped them tremendously, and the fact they're labeled as descendants of Greece gave them huge privilege. An act, the Nishimura-Shehu Act of 1963, named after the Japanese-Albanian Borgovian couple, was given in their honour.

With the Nishimura-Shehu Act of 1963, the racial caste system was dismantled and government programs were in place to help them get on their feet after historical marginalisation.
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Postby Great Nortend » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:45 pm

That's sad but I'm pleased the caste system has been dismantled.


A practice of communal enclosure developed in Great Nortend from the 17th century, whereby the communal open fields of a manor were enclosed into individual farms, albeit still communally owned. These were allocated annually to the socagers of the manor, who thitherto had exercised the right of farming the communal fields in conjunction with the cottagers. Socagers still to-day are required to render a service to their lord, which may be in the form of labour on the lord’s fields, a fixed amount of produce or goods, or money payments.

Since enclosure, cottagers now are normally entitled to a percentage of the profits from the harvest, in return for their general labour on the fields, although as cottage tenure is not hereditary, entitlements can simply amount to a fixed 'wage'.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:38 pm

So... other than the fact that I need to use "thitherto" more often, seems like it's a group of communities of small little cottages. At least, that's as far as I'm concerned and as far as I've read. Also, isn't that kind of a caste system with lords and stuff?

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Postby Cybus1 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:56 pm

That is both fascinating and slightly ominous. I imagine being able to see anything would be tempting, but also be potentially annoying, like finding out your favorite show gets canceled after only one season, for example.

The Ormann is a gentle Arcadian herbivore, very similar to a cow, they even go moo. They have spread throughout the Empire, and are used as sources of meat and milk. Ormann can be easily distinguished from cows by the tiny tentacles which emerge from their mouths when feeding to more easily devour grass and herbs, and their unique defense mechanism; Ormann, to deal with Blacklight-enhanced predators, emit a very mild pheromone which calms and pacifies anything in the area, and some Imperial corporations have extracted these pheromones for use in stress relief products such as the painkiller Med-X. In addition, their milk has a mild calming effect, though this is removed from most milk before it is sold or used, though some brands retain this effect.
Ormann meat is a very common ingredient in Cybusian cuisine, all pheromones having been removed.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:13 am

It definitely sounds like a very useful creature. Though its appearance is somewhat creepy, the pheromones it emits is most certainly something of great value. I can imagine it’s the most useful creature in the entire Empire.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:22 am

In a growing economy, a fixed percentage is always better than a fixed budget. That said, 150,000 sounds like a relatively large military, especially for a bunch of islands off the Caribbean sea.


Conservative political entities faced heavy, violent backlash immediately after the Great War throughout Europe. The majority viewed the string of conservative politicians all across Europe as responsible for the events that led to the Great War, and the dynamics of the society changed to the point that a great deal of the electorate called for policies that would have been considered radical and out of question only a decade ago. In North Germany, this manifested in the conclusion of the Ober Ost crisis which saw Alfred von Wastrecht-Orenblau resigning from his office after the crisis was resolved in a way he had explicitly expressed dislike for (in particular, he wished to colonize Ober Ost into a number of client states ruled by a small German elite. The crisis was not resolved that way).

Wastrecht-Orenblau's resignation resulted in nearly two decades of socialist, progressive, and liberal politicians taking over the Reichstag, and the new dominant parties reformed at will: the initial von Schmidt government (Social Democrat) passed eight-hour workday, domestic labour reform, works councils, agricultural labour reform, right of civil-service associations, local municipality social welfare relief (split between Reich and States) and important national health insurance, re-instatement of demobilised workers, protection from arbitrary dismissal with appeal as a right, and a regulated wage agreement between 1915 and 1917, while the Ostlau government (Progressive) legalized female suffrage in 1918. Press censorship and union busting were also abolished, giving unrestricted right to laborers to organize into unions, while the welfare system was reformed to increase old-age, sick and unemployed benefits for workers, maximum working 48-hour workweek, restriction on night work, a half-holiday on Saturday, and a break of 36-hours of continuous rest during the week. Health Insurance was extended to wives and daughters without independent income, people only partially capable of gainful employment, people employed in private cooperatives, and people employed in public cooperatives. By 1929, the Conservatives successfully managed to bring down the taxes on capital from 60% (average) to 25% and this was considered the only major success for the conservative factions in the entire Reichstag for the entirety of the first half of the XX century.
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North German Realm wrote:In a growing economy, a fixed percentage is always better than a fixed budget. That said, 150,000 sounds like a relatively large military, especially for a bunch of islands off the Caribbean sea.


Conservative political entities faced heavy, violent backlash immediately after the Great War throughout Europe. The majority viewed the string of conservative politicians all across Europe as responsible for the events that led to the Great War, and the dynamics of the society changed to the point that a great deal of the electorate called for policies that would have been considered radical and out of question only a decade ago. In North Germany, this manifested in the conclusion of the Ober Ost crisis which saw Alfred von Wastrecht-Orenblau resigning from his office after the crisis was resolved in a way he had explicitly expressed dislike for (in particular, he wished to colonize Ober Ost into a number of client states ruled by a small German elite. The crisis was not resolved that way).

Wastrecht-Orenblau's resignation resulted in nearly two decades of socialist, progressive, and liberal politicians taking over the Reichstag, and the new dominant parties reformed at will: the initial von Schmidt government (Social Democrat) passed eight-hour workday, domestic labour reform, works councils, agricultural labour reform, right of civil-service associations, local municipality social welfare relief (split between Reich and States) and important national health insurance, re-instatement of demobilised workers, protection from arbitrary dismissal with appeal as a right, and a regulated wage agreement between 1915 and 1917, while the Ostlau government (Progressive) legalized female suffrage in 1918. Press censorship and union busting were also abolished, giving unrestricted right to laborers to organize into unions, while the welfare system was reformed to increase old-age, sick and unemployed benefits for workers, maximum working 48-hour workweek, restriction on night work, a half-holiday on Saturday, and a break of 36-hours of continuous rest during the week. Health Insurance was extended to wives and daughters without independent income, people only partially capable of gainful employment, people employed in private cooperatives, and people employed in public cooperatives. By 1929, the Conservatives successfully managed to bring down the taxes on capital from 60% (average) to 25% and this was considered the only major success for the conservative factions in the entire Reichstag for the entirety of the first half of the XX century.


I mean, it makes sense and all, with how massively conservatism, and nationalism, had caused... Well, quite the issue. But the sudden, and severe, socialist swing is rather abrupt- It does make sense, but so suddenly...? Somewhat terrifying.




The Concordat has long been a master of rapid deployment- Jump-drives let them deploy entire armies in mere hours, and re-locate entire frontlines in a day.

One of the primary methods of this, is the 'Low Altitude, High Amount' or LAHO. This drop, taking place from the depths of a MK-6 Troop Deployment Vessel, can deploy up to six infantry battalions in a single drop. Or two tank battalions, and four infantry battalions. Or three and three. Due to flying at heights of only 500 meters, it's shockingly hard to hit a TDV thundering by at Mach 30, and the air-to-ground time is incredibly short aswell. This makes a LAHO drop perfect for shock n' awe tactics. And when combined with formations, the drop-efficiency is essentially off the charts. Combined with the ability of an ODST drop, timed in perfect conjunction, you can overwhelm a hostile planet with more targeting signatures than any PDF can be expected to deal with in a short matter of minutes.

This gets even more terrifying when one properly weighs how many men a Battalion of infantry is- 800,000. A single TDV, dropping 6 full battalions, will drop 4,800,000‬ men in a single go. A full formation of 21, 41, 61, 81, and 101, can drop up to ‭100,800,000‬, ‭196,800,000‬, 292,800,000‬, 388,800,000‬, and ‭484,800,000‬ respectively... One can easily see why this massive rapid-deployment strategy is favored.

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Postby Idiocarasia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:00 am

with that strategy and technology, it would make terrain combat almost futile for the foe, with its supposed speed and functionality a white flag might be drawn before the gun.



Although most Idiocarens believe and warship the Survivalisum pantheon, it is within our belief that other gods may exist in a similar way.

All gods under Survivalisum where once mortals, so under our beliefs, it may be that the god of other nations exists in the same ways, this has
led to a surprisingly religiously tolerant people, for a nation of raiders and killers. but it is also the thought of the gods being made from mortals
that let idiocaren zealots fight as they want to ascend and kill, in person, the gods of other religions
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Postby Cybus1 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:28 am

Hmm. Interesting concept, and I can see how that would motivate them.

Stevie Nicks (and by extension, Fleetwood Mac in general), is highly popular in the Empire, especially among Banshees, who appreciate her witchy style and the rumors of her being a ‘white witch’. The fact that Dana Mercer, the Emperor's sister, likes her music a lot also helped increase her popularity in the Empire immensely.
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Postby Kyria » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:34 am

It's rare to hear of Terran celebrities and music groups having such popularity. I’m sure she enjoys the amount of fans she has.
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That makes sense. Apart from a small number of religions (that, of course, have a large number of followers largely thanks to colonialism and imperialism), every religion believes that "other" gods can exist. Some are pretentious like the Romans and think "they're all aspects of our gods". Some are less retarded.

AN: I wonder what the Eagle stands for in Kyria. I'm not quite certain if it does the same thing it did in the Old USA.

Turkey lost all its European territory after the second Great War. As a member of the second Pact of Rome, the reactionary, nationalist, and militant authoritarian Turkish government took part in the War of Liberation, the first of the three wars that are collectively referred to as the "Second Great War". During the War of Liberation, Turkey moved more than 15,000,000 soldiers into the Balkans, committing numerous atrocities in both the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and in the Socialist Republic of Bulgaria -the latter being an unlikely ally of North Germany. When the war ended, Turkey was forced to cede the entirety of its holdings in Thrace to Bulgaria -the aforementioned territory was promptly settled by Bulgarians after a treaty of Population Exchange forced on Turkey resulted in the removal of nearly 750,000 Turks. In addition, the territory of the city of Istanbul -at that point the capital of Turkey- was given independence as the Free City of Constantinople, in order to cut Turkey from controlling the Bosphorus. Turkey tried to reclaim Constantinople three times, the last of which resulted in the bombardment of Ankara by the North German and British militaries in 1986 which destroyed 17% of the city.
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Well, at least the Turks have accepted the situation in Constantinople in my world.

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Oof the stds

This is the most boring state in existence.

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Zionia Kai 2 wrote:Oof the stds

This is the most boring state in existence.



He doesn't have any, nor has he ever gotten a girl pregnant.

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