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Greenwichian Arcadia
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Postby Greenwichian Arcadia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:26 am

Great! Be careful and don't try to make it mandatory. Help people to choose atheism over religion at their own will, publicize scientific endeavors, promote critical thinking on an everyday basis and you'll be fine! That's a long-term solution.
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:35 am

Greenwichian Arcadia wrote:Great! Be careful and don't try to make it mandatory. Help people to choose atheism over religion at their own will, publicize scientific endeavors, promote critical thinking on an everyday basis and you'll be fine! That's a long-term solution.
In order to show that they know an answer, intgamers put a thumb up. While useful in buzzer-based MindClash, the gesture is frowned upon by coaches in classic intgaming, as it relaxes teammates, making them believe that you already know the answer. When you put a thumb up mid-question and realize shortly after that you don't really know the answer, it makes it much harder to kick-start a discussion. Nevertheless, the gesture has brought the term 'a thumb question' aka 'thumbie.'

Interesting. Are game shows big in Arcadia?


In Sharifistan Sultan Suleiman Khan introduced a modernisation process:
This included women being allowed to join the Navy (previously they could only join the Air Cavalry and the Army) and the marriageable age and age of consent being raised to 16.
However part of this involved a compromise where the girls could also be prosecuted, not just the older man.
Something the Sultan reluctantly introduced to garner support for his modernisation plan amongst the rural nobility, the nobility of Pashtunistan and the police.
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Icadias
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Postby Icadias » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 am

I guess the modernisation in terms of gender equality deserves a praise for such nation, keep up the good work

As the ruling House of Icadias had inherited the country from the still existing House of Bernadotte, an official condition was laid in the country's royal succession laws that if there was to be no eligible successor from the ruling house, the most eligible member from the House of Bernadotte was to be consequently chosen as the new monarch
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Postby Thedish Riche » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:04 am

While that makes sense and seems sound at face value, I would sooner entrust Sweden with the House of Bernadotte, even though they’re descendants of a Napoleonic warleader. Personally Sweden was at its best prior to its pacification at the end of the Great Northern War under its proper rulership.
To distinguish it from the similarly named Isle of Man, the Riche of Mann is also called the Thedish Riche. This interestingly is a direct cognate of “Deutsches Reich” with the same etymological origin from Proto-Germanic. It could be interpreted to mean “People’s/Folk’s Realm”, referring to the nation’s native ethnocultural population rather than the working class.

The official name of the nation, Mann, is derived from the Germanic concept of humanity and manhood, naming their land literally after the dominant sex of the time. This set a standard for place naming customs as places were more often named after people than local characteristics.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:20 am

Definitely adds a spin to the science of etymologies, though names based on local terms and characteristics are usually more fun to decipher. I always think that it's interesting how linguistics can led us to find links between different cultures and places.

    Jangka Jayabaya is a Javanese book of mystical prophecies written by the king of Kediri in the 12th century. In it, he predicted the future of Dwipantara, including the coming of a messiah called "Satrio Piningit" that will cleanse Dwipantara from the disastrous era of kalabendu (decandency) and make the archipelago great again.

    In the late 1990's, following the economic crisis and rise of the Alliance to Restore the Republic, many believed that the Islamic Khilafah's rule is this so-called 'kalabendu' disaster and that it's time for Satrio Piningit to finally come out. As a result, many prominent Republiken figures has tried to bolster their legitimacy by spreading theories that they themselves is this promised messiah.
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Surrealist Patagonia
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Postby Surrealist Patagonia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:31 am

So you used traditional prophecies and superstition to draw support from an already-superstitious people as a progressive think-thank group? That is ingenious. The Islamists may have toyed with the people's piety but with their mandate eroding, it isn't unthinkable that previous religious supporters of it are going to look for alternatives.


Western Europe is at the forefront of a Futurist revolution and wave of violence thanks to the propagation of Futurist values through infiltrated think-thank groups, academia, public figures, and literature in what the Patron might call as "Cultural Warfare". Patagonia doesn't have a KGB-like organization to spread its ideals so they have to draw grassroots supporters within the Counter Culture movement who were either willing collaborators or unwitting manipulated ones. Sartre, Camus, Focault, and even David Bowie were Futurist sympathizers. All of which were intrigued by Futurism's libertine and progressive values in contrast to European ultraconservatism (with its misogynistic and violent political views conveniently scrubbed out by think-thank groups). The most vulnerable of European society were targeted which were youths who were aimless in life as they were unemployed and were under a lot of pressure from conservative European society. Futurism provided them with meaning and groups gave them a sense of community. It feeds off from popular discontent against conservatism and it worked in infiltrating the counterculture movement. There was no movement openly proclaiming itself to be "Futurist", they either took the mantle of New Left and far-right organizations.

The Patron's "Cultural Warfare" is a revolutionary form of warfare which aims to erode European society by targeting religion, community, and tradition. It sought to create new meanings, connotations, and contexts for certain words. Religion, traditionalism, and racial theories were discredited by increasingly mainstream Futurist values while homosexuality, free love, negritude, and nudity (which were shunned by conservative European society in the 60s) were upheld and seen as ideal. Cultural Warfare engages in misinformation, propaganda, and institution infiltration and they are highly effective in stoking the flames to counterculture zeitgeist among youths which culminated to the 1968 May Revolution in France and the 1970-74' Riots in Britain which initially started with intents of labor reforms turned into demands of radical social reforms.

There's no clear cut enemy in this "Cultural Warfare" as Futurism's growth was organic and spontaneous. It would perhaps take a generation to fully recover from a Futurist-influenced zeitgeist.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:25 pm

Opinion:Huh, while it indeed sounds a bit like a material which conspiracy theorists could spout in Patagonia's world, it is not surprising when you know what Patron and Patagonia's futurists are like. Anyways, they are indeed playing clever - targeting propaganda for those who are weak and vulnerable. I could imagine the bloodbath and reprisals against both real and imagined far-right supporters when that revolution would finally hit Patagonia's Western Europe, even on a level of individual families.


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Fact time!


"Like with a lot of conservatives across SC, ''family values'' are one of the major talking points of the conservatives in SC's America. However, conservatives in SC usually view the ''joint family'' model as ideal one, instead of nuclear family - in a joint family, multiple generations live under a single roof, and every member makes a contribution to the common fund. In some regions such as Disputed Zone, joint family became a necessity because the chances of surviving the hellfire and armies trampling the ground were greater if individuals stayed together, but in SC's America, such a change was more politically motivated - The Party thought, that ''joint family was way more suited for purposes of collectivism than nuclear family'', and started to particularly agitate for it in 80s during reformist period, where it considered nuclear family a ''remnant of the capitalist USA before SC'', and presented the shift as ''victory of socialism''. Although nuclear family would continue to hold out, joint family would eventually get the main positions alongside with other changes to the SC's society, which would later get spread to the other territories as well through its conquests (Some regional governors think, that ability of adjusting the SC's system to their needs was one of the reasons for its fast spread.) However, not everything is ideal in such model - if anything, there are a lot of darker sides to it. For example, the anonymous surveys and calls from Abuse and Neglect Hotline have revealed that a significant portion of the SC's younger generation doesn't feel happy in their families, due of one or multiple family members being restrictive, and/or abusive. In some cases, the socialization with others is also limited, and in combination with SC's increasing depression rates, along with reports on domestic violence, it paints a pretty grim picture. That said, it is not unusual for police in SC's America (Or Militsiya in the former Russian Empire's territories, for an example) to brush those cases under a carpet, as a part of the ''rugged collectivism'' policy, or just as an attempt to downplay negative sides in order for citizens to not lose morale. On another note, it has been said that SCPS, Tom, and SC's leadership as a whole ''doesn't have a heart to consider the actual families'' - kin/collective punishment or breaking apart the families of dissenters are only a few examples of this.''

''(Also, there are a few things on which SC's conservatives and IRL American conservatives wouldn't get along - for example, a typical SC's conservative isn't that opposed to command economy and/or socialism, and doesn't like market capitalism either. Same for the ''small government'' supporters - due of the conditions SC has found itself in, its government has grown enormous over the decades, and most likely will continue to do so. A lot of SC's conservatives also support STEM cell research, although mostly because The Party finds the STEM cell research as ''useful for the needs of the State and Collective'', and it is likely that those who oppose it have their voices silenced on the matter, just like when it comes to SC's governments taxing churches, or (military) science research. That said, they both still would probably share the anti-abortion stance, anti-LGBTQ+ opinions, religiousness&prudism, the gender roles in society (partially, as SC is a bit more similar to USSR when it comes to that), etc. So, while in some fields they could have disagreements, in others they aren't actually too much different.'')
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This nation doesn't represent my views

IRL views: not much different from 4 years ago (socdem)

Tom being a control freak + pathological distrust of private enterprises = this nation

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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:37 pm

Silver Commonwealth wrote:
Opinion:Huh, while it indeed sounds a bit like a material which conspiracy theorists could spout in Patagonia's world, it is not surprising when you know what Patron and Patagonia's futurists are like. Anyways, they are indeed playing clever - targeting propaganda for those who are weak and vulnerable. I could imagine the bloodbath and reprisals against both real and imagined far-right supporters when that revolution would finally hit Patagonia's Western Europe, even on a level of individual families.


Ministry of Education


Fact time!


"Like with a lot of conservatives across SC, ''family values'' are one of the major talking points of the conservatives in SC's America. However, conservatives in SC usually view the ''joint family'' model as ideal one, instead of nuclear family - in a joint family, multiple generations live under a single roof, and every member makes a contribution to the common fund. In some regions such as Disputed Zone, joint family became a necessity because the chances of surviving the hellfire and armies trampling the ground were greater if individuals stayed together, but in SC's America, such a change was more politically motivated - The Party thought, that ''joint family was way more suited for purposes of collectivism than nuclear family'', and started to particularly agitate for it in 80s during reformist period, where it considered nuclear family a ''remnant of the capitalist USA before SC'', and presented the shift as ''victory of socialism''. Although nuclear family would continue to hold out, joint family would eventually get the main positions alongside with other changes to the SC's society, which would later get spread to the other territories as well through its conquests (Some regional governors think, that ability of adjusting the SC's system to their needs was one of the reasons for its fast spread.) However, not everything is ideal in such model - if anything, there are a lot of darker sides to it. For example, the anonymous surveys and calls from Abuse and Neglect Hotline have revealed that a significant portion of the SC's younger generation doesn't feel happy in their families, due of one or multiple family members being restrictive, and/or abusive. In some cases, the socialization with others is also limited, and in combination with SC's increasing depression rates, along with reports on domestic violence, it paints a pretty grim picture. That said, it is not unusual for police in SC's America (Or Militsiya in the former Russian Empire's territories, for an example) to brush those cases under a carpet, as a part of the ''rugged collectivism'' policy, or just as an attempt to downplay negative sides in order for citizens to not lose morale. On another note, it has been said that SCPS, Tom, and SC's leadership as a whole ''doesn't have a heart to consider the actual families'' - kin/collective punishment or breaking apart the families of dissenters are only a few examples of this.''

''(Also, there are a few things on which SC's conservatives and IRL American conservatives wouldn't get along - for example, a typical SC's conservative isn't that opposed to command economy and/or socialism, and doesn't like market capitalism either. Same for the ''small government'' supporters - due of the conditions SC has found itself in, its government has grown enormous over the decades, and most likely will continue to do so. A lot of SC's conservatives also support STEM cell research, although mostly because The Party finds the STEM cell research as ''useful for the needs of the State and Collective'', and it is likely that those who oppose it have their voices silenced on the matter, just like when it comes to SC's governments taxing churches, or (military) science research. That said, they both still would probably share the anti-abortion stance, anti-LGBTQ+ opinions, religiousness&prudism, the gender roles in society (partially, as SC is a bit more similar to USSR when it comes to that), etc. So, while in some fields they could have disagreements, in others they aren't actually too much different.'')

An interesting analysis which could apply to the differences between conservatives in different real life countries.


In Sharifistan the infantry units of the major cities are involved in ceremonial and operational (combat) duties.
Unlike the British Army Guards, however their combat training is longer than average as well as their drill and ceremonies' training:
Their combat training is 5 months longer with their drill training being 3 months longer.
A nation which partly represents my views.
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The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

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Postby Godular » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:16 pm

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:In Sharifistan the infantry units of the major cities are involved in ceremonial and operational (combat) duties.
Unlike the British Army Guards, however their combat training is longer than average as well as their drill and ceremonies' training:
Their combat training is 5 months longer with their drill training being 3 months longer.


Extra training for baton twirling? Seems inefficient.




Each of the High Executors has their own designated areas of oversight. Kal'Shazzar looks over the Civilian Sector, focusing primarily on economy and infrastructure, though he also has seniority over the other two Executors. Kaz'Ramael focuses on external matters such as trade and relations as well as military matters outside Godulan Territory. The focus of Ilia'Tyr'Nuruodo is directed towards domestic support, but also extends in some sense to intelligence gathering.

Specifically focusing on Ilia for a moment (as I'm working on writing her factbook and need to flesh things out a bit), she spends a great deal of effort on determining the nature of potential threats, and as such she edges in somewhat on Kaz'Ramael's duties as a spymaster. If she happens to note a potential threat caused by an individual, such as somebody currying political power in a way that runs counter to Godulan interests, she is empowered to act against that player with extreme prejudice (in the actual meaning of the term, that is). As her M'Lekk'Torr abilities specifically enable her EXTREME capabilities in infiltration, this action typically manifests in said threatening individual suddenly disappearing without a trace (insofar as one can't detect traces of somebody until they pick apart a wall or floor, and who would think to do that offhand?). Ilia often undertakes these responsibilities personally, which has earned her the colloquial title of 'High Executioner'.

Amusingly enough, her job purview also places her as the foremost authority in matters of education. Despite her otherwise cold and calculating nature, she quite enjoys being around children and is often noted to be quite protective of them.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:15 pm

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:That sounds like a cruel, yet necessary step to beautify humanity, just like a major villain in my latest rp, just without the nanites and futuristic super science. Totally fits the theme for a Darwinist style villain. It would work better if the program Sinicized and civilized the whites though.

While capital G God is alive and well, just like in real life, in Amenria's timeline, an entity was born as a side effect of all the crises in the multiverse, plus all the emotions of every sentient being in the multiverse, giving her Supreme-Ultimate, the same type power God has, albeit at a tiny fraction. Knowing of her existence, God imprisoned her behind a wall at the edge of the prime universe. She can only observe the prime universe, and even then she couldn't directly affect it and create the same miracles He did. She could only subtly influence the thoughts of sentient beings, making them do evil things and have evil thoughts.

Should the wall be broken, she still wouldn't be able to directly return to Earth. She would have to drop a physical avatar into Earth, and that avatar wouldn't know of her true nature until several specific energies are gathered into her body. After that, she would be able to take her true form and cause the calamities she always wanted to.

Why is she so evil? She's pissed that she's not the supreme being of the multiverse and that her power is nothing compared to God.

Seems like Iblis


In Sharifistan the movement to create a Republic of Sharifistan is a shaky alliance of liberals, libertarians, conservatives, fascists and communists.
What they have in common?
Hatred of the monarchy


Nah, she's not demonic, her powers are divine in nature, she just happens to be on the evil side of the alignment spectrum

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Postby Borgevia » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:46 am

Godular wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:In Sharifistan the infantry units of the major cities are involved in ceremonial and operational (combat) duties.
Unlike the British Army Guards, however their combat training is longer than average as well as their drill and ceremonies' training:
Their combat training is 5 months longer with their drill training being 3 months longer.


Extra training for baton twirling? Seems inefficient.




Each of the High Executors has their own designated areas of oversight. Kal'Shazzar looks over the Civilian Sector, focusing primarily on economy and infrastructure, though he also has seniority over the other two Executors. Kaz'Ramael focuses on external matters such as trade and relations as well as military matters outside Godulan Territory. The focus of Ilia'Tyr'Nuruodo is directed towards domestic support, but also extends in some sense to intelligence gathering.

Specifically focusing on Ilia for a moment (as I'm working on writing her factbook and need to flesh things out a bit), she spends a great deal of effort on determining the nature of potential threats, and as such she edges in somewhat on Kaz'Ramael's duties as a spymaster. If she happens to note a potential threat caused by an individual, such as somebody currying political power in a way that runs counter to Godulan interests, she is empowered to act against that player with extreme prejudice (in the actual meaning of the term, that is). As her M'Lekk'Torr abilities specifically enable her EXTREME capabilities in infiltration, this action typically manifests in said threatening individual suddenly disappearing without a trace (insofar as one can't detect traces of somebody until they pick apart a wall or floor, and who would think to do that offhand?). Ilia often undertakes these responsibilities personally, which has earned her the colloquial title of 'High Executioner'.

Amusingly enough, her job purview also places her as the foremost authority in matters of education. Despite her otherwise cold and calculating nature, she quite enjoys being around children and is often noted to be quite protective of them.


That's always an interesting character to develop: Cruel and brutal when necessary, albeit their soft spot only opens up when the situation calls for it. However, with such authority, one can't help but wonder the temptation to abuse it for various gains.


Borgovians may be very warm towards Latin Europeans, but during WWII they are still excessively cruel to Axis Latinos. Spanish volunteers of the Wehrmacht at Chateau de Fontainebleau were executed in inhumane manners for instance. This is because the Romanians/Italians/Spanish "Betrayed" their Roman family by attacking Greece, France, etc and so, despite their troops being spared the humiliation of sodomy for being a civilised Latin, they are flayed in warm water as the Romans had done to high-ranking traitors of the Empire. French/Greek POWs who are forced to fight are spared, draftees have the option to commit suicide (honourable way to go out) or swear blood loyalty to Borgovia's Armed Force for as long as you're able to stand up. Most Japanese chose to commit suicide while the Europeans tend switch faction when given the choice.

Methods of execution besides flaying in warm water include a "Last Supper" where they have one last meal laced with arsenic and other poisonous substance that'll kill them afterwards

Nazis, Hungarians, Finns, on the contrary, do not have such luxuries. The young ones are crossdressed and sodomised, 1/5 of all Nazi POWs under Borgovia's capture were sterilised, there were forced labour, biomedical experiments, plastic surgery experiments, etc. Unclassified Soviet sources mentioned a Soviet commanding officer in Berlin vomited and fainted after seeing what Borgovians did to the faces of Hungarians and Germans. There's 88 crucified Nazis in Berlin, a mockery of the Nazi "88" number ("Heil Hitler"). Some of the more psychopathic Borgovians would butcher Axis troops like meat at a Kosher Deli and then fed to wild boars. Borgovian commanders were annoyed by Hitler's suicide. A British diary mentioned overhearing Borgovian commanders in Paris laughing and having a merry good time coming up with torture methods for Hitler ranging from covering him in honey & milk to let parasites rot him from within to sewing his body onto a donkey's corpse and let it decompose in the scorching sun for vultures. They instead tried some of these ideas on SS Officers as substitute. Due to being a "Winner", almost all Allied War Crimes from British to American to Soviet to Borgovian, weren't trialed and so Borgovians got away with their twisted sense of artistic pursuits like "Composing music of a dying enemy" (Burning Nazis alive to the sound of string instruments).
Was once a ruthless capitalist Corporate State in South America (1800s - 1950s), but has since reformed into a Social Democratic, Federal, Parliamentary Republic whose politics is 90% of my irl views. We're Italo-Spanish-Chinese influenced and thus there's a lot of Chinese and Greco-Roman cultural references.

The world in this nation is changing for the better, current year is 2042.

Call us "Borgovia".

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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:23 am

That's completely wrong. You're fighting the Nazis, you're supposed to be nice, heroic, saints, not as bad as the guys you're fighting. One side is evil, one side is good, that's how the dynamics are supposed to be like.

Powers that are common in other works in the superhero genre are rare in Amenria's universe. One such powers is flight. Only people with white or green Qi can learn it, and even then it's difficult to learn. All characters who fly are usually either major characters, bosses, or both. Naturally, all Elder Dragons fit the bill, as they are ancient, wise, and powerful beings. So basically, if someone starts flying, you bet shite gets real.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:01 am

I am glad to see flight is such a rare ability. Else it could drastically change how a society or people function and think when flight is a real possibility and alternative to walking or taking vehicles to cover distance. I think it needing the application of Qi rather than being natural is cool.
Though most people think of only one kind of creature when hearing the word “vampire”, Versilia - and indeed the world at large - is home to not one, but two variants of vampire. The first are colloquially known as “Lesser Vampires” and are in actuality evolutionary cousins to Homo Sapiens Sapiens (“humanity”), making them human and, hence, subject to aging. They live up to 300 years. Lesser Vampires are distinguishable by their fangs, requirement of mammalian blood in their diet, superior natural weaponry and hunting instincts, claw-like nails and, commonly but not always, by their eye colour (vampires can have red irises in addition to blue, brown, green and so on).

The second variant are known as “Greater Vampires” and are immune to age-induced death, can regenerate at a much faster rate than Lessers and are functionally immortal unless killed through offensive means or disease. These vampires have two forms: a “disguise” and “true” form. When disguised, they appear as Lesser Vampires, while in their True forms their arms transform into large bat-like wings capable of flight while their feet change into something much more bat like, with talons and a structure that allows them to cling to upside down surfaces or kill prey. The transformation is a painful process that breaks and reforms bones, grows patagium at an accelerated rate and uses up large amounts of energy. For this reason Greater Vampires need to immediately feed upon transforming and their underlings usually provide them with fully grown cattle or other livestock to sate them. Greater Vampires need to transform relatively often to maintain their ability to fly, which includes keeping their weight and body composition in check. For this reason, most are quite thin with small busts and soft features, many even looking anorexic. Despite this, they’re naturally gifted with blood based magic and are more often than not totally beyond Lesser Vampires in their lethality.

Greater Vampires are an all-female subrace supposedly descended from an ancient (and the first true) Greater Vampire who is often identified with the Lilith of Oriental and Abrahamic mythology. Another con of their biology is that their fertility is poor and hence require multiple mates to even have a chance at reproducing. Their status as Greaters has influenced the matriarchal characteristics of Versilian culture.

Akeldama is a Greater Vampire, explaining her age of over 2,400+ years.
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Postby The Peasant Republic » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:10 am

I mean to be perfectly fair, that is true irl too. If someone start flying in real life shit's about to get real too.

AN: So basically a mix of ES's Vampire Lords and some OTL modern Christian-Vampire mythos? Why are Greater Vampires "all female"? And is there any biological relation between the two forms of vampires?


Throughout the 16th century, the Triangle Trade was of utmost importance for the Peasant Republic. As more than 70% of the country's income was either from trade or production for trading, the only thing more important to the country was the security of both the Baltic Sea trading Zone and the Dutch Coast Trading Zone. Thanks to its territories in New Heligoland (OTL Trinidad), New Leeuward (OTL St. Martin) and Frisoland (OTL Jamaica) it harvested coffee, cocoa, sugar and tobacco, which it traded in Africa through its factories in Guinea and the settlements in Fort Dorothea (OTL Calabar) and Bioko (OTL Fernando Po) in exchange for dyes, ivory and wool. The outcome of both trades ended up in the main port of the Republic in Leeuwarden, where it would then be exported to both mainland Europe and the Baltic Sea. Unlike most other countries in the Triangle Trade, the Peasant Republic didn't rely on slavery for its plantations and mills in Caribbean. This status quo came to be eroded after the establishment of New Frisia in North America (OTL location not yet decided) and the expansion of Dutch and Freeman trade in Asia through the Cape of Good Hope in early thee 17th century.
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:26 am

It's no surprise that trade was of great importance at the time, but what's of particular interest was the lack of a slave trading industry, which was commonplace at the time. out of a sense of progression or a more pragmatic means?

Crysukon field agents and commandos sent to sabotage vehicles are equipped with a handy device. a package the size of 2 fingers, a mixture of a thickening agent and abrasive granules in a liquid soluble wrapper. When inserted in a vehicles fuel tank, it is designed to clog up the fuel system by turning the fuel to sludge while the abrasive powder will clump together in pipes, injectors and other parts and with the thickened fuel will gum up the system in short order.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:47 am

The Peasant Republic wrote:AN: So basically a mix of ES's Vampire Lords and some OTL modern Christian-Vampire mythos? Why are Greater Vampires "all female"? And is there any biological relation between the two forms of vampires?


The monogender trait is embedded in the Greater Vampire genome, which is itself an isolated split from the prehistoric vampire race. Greater Vampires are a sort of sub-species to vampirekind while vampires are cousins of humanity like Neanderthals or such were. So they’re a different but related type of vampire that’s in very limited numbers.

The decision to make them all-female was in part to give them another downside and to make it harder for there to be a lot of them. Other than that the decision was one of the first things to come to mind when I was thinking stuff up for the subrace.

I should also mention that Lesser and Greater Vampires, as well as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, can all reproduce with one another and produce fertile offspring, though those born from a Greater Vampire more often than not inherit their poor fertility. Greater Vampires produce either the father’s race/species or their own.

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Postby Azania- » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:14 am

If it can be mass produced, it would certainly serve a useful military purpose. Commando units specialised in sabotage could wreak havoc on enemy forward operating bases, which would force the enemy to move bases further and further away from the battlefield, thus stretching their supply chains.

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AN: W.T.F. I hate pokemon as much as the next guy but orbital strikes? Just change the channel.


In 1905, Azania invaded the Congo Free State (CFS), a nominally independent state that was in fact a personal possession of Leopold II, Belgium's king. The invasion was the result of a protracted dispute between Azania and the Belgian administration of the CFS over the latter's abusive conduct in the Congo. It began on February 5 ,1905 and ended 44 days later with an Azanian victory on March 26.
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Crysuko wrote:It's no surprise that trade was of great importance at the time, but what's of particular interest was the lack of a slave trading industry, which was commonplace at the time. out of a sense of progression or a more pragmatic means?

Crysukon field agents and commandos sent to sabotage vehicles are equipped with a handy device. a package the size of 2 fingers, a mixture of a thickening agent and abrasive granules in a liquid soluble wrapper. When inserted in a vehicles fuel tank, it is designed to clog up the fuel system by turning the fuel to sludge while the abrasive powder will clump together in pipes, injectors and other parts and with the thickened fuel will gum up the system in short order.

Pragmatic. We have little use for slaves: we're relatively small, not that large in population and rely on trade rather than production or tax. So we have neither the means to keep a large population of plantation workers enslaved indefinitely nor do we find the money you'd need for it a good use of our budget. That is not to say the "slave trade" doesn't occur. We're as complicit in transporting slaves through the Atlantic as everyone else. We allow them to be sold or bought on our trading posts and settlements.

AN: I remain thoroughly doubtful that Azania could defeat Belgium in a war that quickly if at all, especially since Britain is their ally (and would have come to their) aid. That said, can't say it could happen to a better guy.

Throughout the 16th century, the Triangle Trade was of utmost importance for the Peasant Republic. As more than 70% of the country's income was either from trade or production for trading, the only thing more important to the country was the security of both the Baltic Sea trading Zone and the Dutch Coast Trading Zone. Thanks to its territories in New Heligoland (OTL Trinidad), New Leeuward (OTL St. Martin) and Frisoland (OTL Jamaica) it harvested coffee, cocoa, sugar and tobacco, which it traded in Africa through its factories in Guinea and the settlements in Fort Dorothea (OTL Calabar) and Bioko (OTL Fernando Po) in exchange for dyes, ivory and wool. The outcome of both trades ended up in the main port of the Republic in Leeuwarden, where it would then be exported to both mainland Europe and the Baltic Sea. Unlike most other countries in the Triangle Trade, the Peasant Republic didn't rely on slavery for its plantations and mills in Caribbean. This status quo came to be eroded after the establishment of New Frisia in North America (OTL location not yet decided) and the expansion of Dutch and Freeman trade in Asia through the Cape of Good Hope in early thee 17th century.
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Postby Godular » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:22 am

Azania- wrote:If it can be mass produced, it would certainly serve a useful military purpose. Commando units specialised in sabotage could wreak havoc on enemy forward operating bases, which would force the enemy to move bases further and further away from the battlefield, thus stretching their supply chains.

Ninja'd

AN: W.T.F. I hate pokemon as much as the next guy but orbital strikes? Just change the channel.


You misunderstand... the Godulans have encountered actual pokemon.

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Postby Azania- » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:39 am

The Peasant Republic wrote:
Crysuko wrote:It's no surprise that trade was of great importance at the time, but what's of particular interest was the lack of a slave trading industry, which was commonplace at the time. out of a sense of progression or a more pragmatic means?

Crysukon field agents and commandos sent to sabotage vehicles are equipped with a handy device. a package the size of 2 fingers, a mixture of a thickening agent and abrasive granules in a liquid soluble wrapper. When inserted in a vehicles fuel tank, it is designed to clog up the fuel system by turning the fuel to sludge while the abrasive powder will clump together in pipes, injectors and other parts and with the thickened fuel will gum up the system in short order.

Pragmatic. We have little use for slaves: we're relatively small, not that large in population and rely on trade rather than production or tax. So we have neither the means to keep a large population of plantation workers enslaved indefinitely nor do we find the money you'd need for it a good use of our budget. That is not to say the "slave trade" doesn't occur. We're as complicit in transporting slaves through the Atlantic as everyone else. We allow them to be sold or bought on our trading posts and settlements.

AN: I remain thoroughly doubtful that Azania could defeat Belgium in a war that quickly if at all, especially since Britain is their ally (and would have come to their) aid. That said, can't say it could happen to a better guy.


The CFS wasn't actually a Belgian colony, it was ruled personally by Leopold II (despite the fact that he never personally set foot there). Belgium at that point didn't even want colonies. This, coupled with the Casement Report, meant that the Belgian government refused to assist Leopold in defending his possession. This left him with one option: recruiting soldiers from the hostile local population. As for Britain, as mentioned before, the CFS wasn't Belgian territory per say, so it didn't need to involve itself in a war from which it would benefit in no way. It had the growing threat of Germany to deal with.

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Azania- wrote:If it can be mass produced, it would certainly serve a useful military purpose. Commando units specialised in sabotage could wreak havoc on enemy forward operating bases, which would force the enemy to move bases further and further away from the battlefield, thus stretching their supply chains.

Ninja'd

AN: W.T.F. I hate pokemon as much as the next guy but orbital strikes? Just change the channel.


You misunderstand... the Godulans have encountered actual pokemon.

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Damn. In that case, I get the reaction.

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:49 am

The Peasant Republic wrote:
Crysuko wrote:It's no surprise that trade was of great importance at the time, but what's of particular interest was the lack of a slave trading industry, which was commonplace at the time. out of a sense of progression or a more pragmatic means?

Crysukon field agents and commandos sent to sabotage vehicles are equipped with a handy device. a package the size of 2 fingers, a mixture of a thickening agent and abrasive granules in a liquid soluble wrapper. When inserted in a vehicles fuel tank, it is designed to clog up the fuel system by turning the fuel to sludge while the abrasive powder will clump together in pipes, injectors and other parts and with the thickened fuel will gum up the system in short order.

Pragmatic. We have little use for slaves: we're relatively small, not that large in population and rely on trade rather than production or tax. So we have neither the means to keep a large population of plantation workers enslaved indefinitely nor do we find the money you'd need for it a good use of our budget. That is not to say the "slave trade" doesn't occur. We're as complicit in transporting slaves through the Atlantic as everyone else. We allow them to be sold or bought on our trading posts and settlements.

AN: I remain thoroughly doubtful that Azania could defeat Belgium in a war that quickly if at all, especially since Britain is their ally (and would have come to their) aid. That said, can't say it could happen to a better guy.

Throughout the 16th century, the Triangle Trade was of utmost importance for the Peasant Republic. As more than 70% of the country's income was either from trade or production for trading, the only thing more important to the country was the security of both the Baltic Sea trading Zone and the Dutch Coast Trading Zone. Thanks to its territories in New Heligoland (OTL Trinidad), New Leeuward (OTL St. Martin) and Frisoland (OTL Jamaica) it harvested coffee, cocoa, sugar and tobacco, which it traded in Africa through its factories in Guinea and the settlements in Fort Dorothea (OTL Calabar) and Bioko (OTL Fernando Po) in exchange for dyes, ivory and wool. The outcome of both trades ended up in the main port of the Republic in Leeuwarden, where it would then be exported to both mainland Europe and the Baltic Sea. Unlike most other countries in the Triangle Trade, the Peasant Republic didn't rely on slavery for its plantations and mills in Caribbean. This status quo came to be eroded after the establishment of New Frisia in North America (OTL location not yet decided) and the expansion of Dutch and Freeman trade in Asia through the Cape of Good Hope in early thee 17th century.

Typical "left-wing" hypocrisy. The "freedom" and "equality" of the peasant being sustained through the oppression of the slave


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Postby The Peasant Republic » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:38 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Typical "left-wing" hypocrisy. The "freedom" and "equality" of the peasant being sustained through the oppression of the slave.

I'm curious as to how you got that from my post
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:22 pm

The Peasant Republic wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Typical "left-wing" hypocrisy. The "freedom" and "equality" of the peasant being sustained through the oppression of the slave.

I'm curious as to how you got that from my post


Because it's a peasant republic that enslaves African
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
The Peasant Republic wrote:I'm curious as to how you got that from my post


Because it's a peasant republic that enslaves African
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No I got that part, I mean how did you get that from what I wrote
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