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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:18 pm

If you were wondering what that was about for a brief few seconds, that was my puppet, my sincere apologies.

I posted on the wrong thread, after mixing up accounts.

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Back to the topic, hmm... I know the region has been condemned before, but it would probably be good if you can ask Menta if he is up for it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:35 pm

Hahqsthqstan wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Has absolutely no bearing on whether or not a nation can be condemned.


Why? You have given no convincing reason in your draft.

READ MY DRAFT FIRST

Your draft leaves a lot to be considered and you haven't made a convincing case why they should be condemned.
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Postby Very totally free » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:05 pm

I don't like the second to last line of your draft as it is anti-autocratic
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Postby Nunaqujjuk » Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:27 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Nunaqujjuk wrote:Please, stop being so rude.

Telling someone that they haven’t given a convincing reason is not being rude - it’s telling them they haven’t given a convincing reason and that they need to find one.

I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:08 am

Nunaqujjuk wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Telling someone that they haven’t given a convincing reason is not being rude - it’s telling them they haven’t given a convincing reason and that they need to find one.

I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.

Actually if your reading and comprehension skills were on a par with your faux outrage you would have seen I said that being Brazilian was an excuse for his poor English.

Edit: and if you don’t like what I am writing then you don’t have to read it. Use the Foe function.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:18 am

Nunaqujjuk wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Telling someone that they haven’t given a convincing reason is not being rude - it’s telling them they haven’t given a convincing reason and that they need to find one.

I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.

Poor English is not the main focus when their proposal simply doesn't give a good argument on why their nominee is condemnable and is not written well. Are you going to call me rude for saying that their draft currently doesn't make a convincing case about a condemn (which it doesn't)?
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:52 am

Nunaqujjuk wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:But Lee-il needs to be condemned

If you want, I can write a C/C for Lee -IL
It would have to be after Monday since I got mock exams

You have experience on writing proposals?
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:54 am

Nunaqujjuk wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Telling someone that they haven’t given a convincing reason is not being rude - it’s telling them they haven’t given a convincing reason and that they need to find one.

I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.

Not exactly. I've had written resolutions with other accs. But none of them got passed and turned resolution in-vote.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:47 am

Hahqsthqstan wrote:
Nunaqujjuk wrote:I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.

Not exactly. I've had written resolutions with other accs. But none of them got passed and turned resolution in-vote.

Ah yes of course, I should have recognised the mangled English and the crappy content - Hegvanigson am I right?

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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:44 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:Not exactly. I've had written resolutions with other accs. But none of them got passed and turned resolution in-vote.

Ah yes of course, I should have recognised the mangled English and the crappy content - Hegvanigson am I right?

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:55 am

Very totally free wrote:I don't like the second to last line of your draft as it is anti-autocratic

It DON'T matter if is anti-autocratic!
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:37 pm

Hahqsthqstan wrote:Anyone?

Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:56 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:Anyone?

Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.

What rules i'm violating?
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Postby Mlakhavia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:06 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:Anyone?

Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.

And I'm sure your Portuguese is fucking wonderful. You've already made it quite clear that you don't approve of OP's English, I feel like at this point they could do with help and advice from others rather than be constantly told that their proposal is trash. I feel like hanging around someone's thread to shit on every step they make probably won't incentivise updating / improving their draft, especially when they've been nothing but polite to you.
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Hahqsthqstan wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.

What rules i'm violating?

I believe the references to Menta Lee-IL's 'personality' violates the SC rules as it pretty much refers to the nation as a person.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:44 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Nunaqujjuk wrote:I get that but then your also saying that the English should be perfect.
English is not his first language ffs.
Also the way you keep speaking to him sounds very rude, this is his first draft let him do it without you blasting him with rudeness.

Actually if your reading and comprehension skills were on a par with your faux outrage you would have seen I said that being Brazilian was an excuse for his poor English.

Edit: and if you don’t like what I am writing then you don’t have to read it. Use the Foe function.

Alone, borderline at worst. Accounting for additional posts...

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Hahqsthqstan wrote:Anyone?

Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.

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Postby 800 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:38 pm

Wow, this post is a mess, more than it should be, and I'm not sure what in the end was done, sure it has no meat on the bonefor anyone to bite onto, and I'm not even sure if this person is condemnable. But I feel like there was more bickering than trying to actually work out the condemnation or at least ignore it and move on.

Bhang Bhang Duc was way out of line to go for this man's throat,
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Hahqsthqstan wrote:Anyone?

Yes, your English would make an English teacher weep, you have come nowhere near producing a solid and understandable reason for Condemning the nominee and the draft as it stands in your OP is still illegal.


Not everyone is an English Prodigy who has A++ in their class, I'm not sure how to discuss this more carefully without going in anger for the lack of carelessness and total tunnel-vison.

I'd just expect better out of someone who has been around the block. And I know The West Pacific is home to less than favorable people, but there's a point where its just not cool.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:55 pm

Hulldom wrote:The Security Council couldn't do what you suggest in the penultimate clause, though wishing for an overthrow is different than demanding it, I guess.

But Menta Lee-Il is basically already condemned by SC#305. They haven't done nearly enough heinous things outside of that resolution to warrant the badge. (Especially since you'd actually probably be looking to condemn Lancaster of Wessex to cover the full gamut of what that player has done.)

Echoing Hulldom's post, are you going to condemn the nation or player behind the nation? I've said all I need to say - the nominee itself is not condemnable and the draft does not make good arguments to support its case.
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:02 am

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Hahqsthqstan wrote:What rules i'm violating?

I believe the references to Menta Lee-IL's 'personality' violates the SC rules as it pretty much refers to the nation as a person.

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:27 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Hulldom wrote:The Security Council couldn't do what you suggest in the penultimate clause, though wishing for an overthrow is different than demanding it, I guess.

But Menta Lee-Il is basically already condemned by SC#305. They haven't done nearly enough heinous things outside of that resolution to warrant the badge. (Especially since you'd actually probably be looking to condemn Lancaster of Wessex to cover the full gamut of what that player has done.)

Echoing Hulldom's post, are you going to condemn the nation or player behind the nation? I've said all I need to say - the nominee itself is not condemnable and the draft does not make good arguments to support its case.

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