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[DRAFT] Commend Sierra Lyricalia

Postby Cretox State » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:57 am

"A versatile and outstanding nation, Sierra Lyricalia is fully deserving of recognition by this venerable body. Yes, we asked for permission. No, this shouldn't violate Rule 1. As always, any feedback is appreciated."

Commend Sierra Lyricalia

The Security Council,

Saluting Sierra Lyricalia, as well as its affiliated delegations and territories, as an incredibly versatile nation whose remarkable contributions to vastly different and equally essential areas of international concern are only fully recognized by a few,

Impressed by the outstanding efforts of Sierra Lyricalia's uniquely competent World Assembly delegation, as exemplified by:

  1. their authorship of AI Coexistence Protocol, a General Assembly resolution which made significant strides towards the peaceful coexistence of synthetic and biological life while preventing the development of a catastrophic information singularity, and
  2. their continuous efforts to assist other delegations with the authoring and revision of potential legislation, as aptly demonstrated by their vital role in the drafting and passage of Anti-Counterfeiting Pact, a General Assembly resolution designed to protect commerce and foster international goodwill by cracking down on counterfeit legal tender,
Expanding on the particular talents and alcohol intake of the Lyrical delegation, which has historically been represented by individuals such as Stephenie Zakalwe, a former ambassador renowned for her skills as an astronaut and her role in rescuing a kidnapped diplomat,

Recognizing the nation's efforts to directly streamline the running of national governments throughout the multiverse by presenting colloquially-written and easily understandable dossiers of options to national leaders regarding an assortment of nationally significant issues, including:

  1. Dossier #436, "Votes, Place Your Bets!" in which national leaders were presented the options of outlawing gambling on elections, implementing state-run gambling on elections, and legalizing private gambling on elections in response to the issue of offshore betting lines being used to predict election outcomes,
  2. Dossier #451, "A Proselyte To Burn," in which controversy over the burning of religious texts was brought to the attention of national leaders, who could deal with the problem by permitting the burning of books, burning or dispatching the author responsible for the burning, or protecting all books from burning,
  3. Dossier #724, "Your Stuff Is Forfeit," in which national leaders could decisively respond to the issue of criminal asset forfeiture by choosing to ban the practice, permit forfeiture by police, or place forfeiture under government authority, and
  4. a plethora of other dossiers which Sierra Lyricalia has directly assisted in the writing of both through their own name and under the name of the tandem state of Logophilia Lyricalia,
Revering the target's devotion to the founderless and frequently-targeted region of Anarchy, a devotion readily apparent through Sierra Lyricalia's work in protecting their region from foreign invasion by serving as Principal-Agent of said region, in addition to acting as Delegate on several occasions,

Acclaiming the immense contributions of Sierra Lyricalia's military forces to the fight against fascism and similarly dangerous ideologies throughout the multiverse through the use of proxy states such as Lyrical International Brigade, including:

  1. rising to the rank of Squadron Admiral in the Huey P. Newton Squadron of The Red Fleet, the penultimate position attainable in a venerable military organization commended by this body for combating fascism, and maintaining the Fleet's current staging point,
  2. leading the invasion of Apartheid South Africa, an old and vile region infamous for their disgusting promotion of dangerous ideology,
  3. staging and pointing missions out of The Rainbow Fleet, which were instrumental to the 3-day operation culminating in the fall of The Iron Confederacy, and
  4. lending vital support to raids against other fascist regions, ensuring that such regions were annihilated and forever ripped from fascist hands,
Hereby commends Sierra Lyricalia.

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Commend Sierra Lyricalia

The Security Council,

Saluting the critical role performed by delegations of the General Assembly, presenters of nationally important issues, and anti-fascist military forces in ensuring multiversal peace and stability,

Impressed by the remarkable contributions on all the above fronts by Sierra Lyricalia, an incredibly versatile nation which has shown outstanding achievement and competence in vastly different and equally challenging areas of international concern,

Expanding on just one example of the Lyricals' many legislative efforts, AI Coexistence Protocol, a General Assembly resolution which makes significant strides towards the peaceful coexistence of synthetic and biological life while preventing the development of a catastrophic information singularity,

Recognizing the nation's efforts to directly streamline the running of national governments throughout the multiverse by presenting colloquially-written and easily understandable dossiers of options to national leaders regarding an assortment of nationally significant issues, including:

  1. Dossier #436, "Votes, Place Your Bets!" in which national leaders were presented the options of outlawing gambling on elections, implementing state-run gambling on elections, and legalizing private gambling on elections in response to the issue of offshore betting lines being used to predict election outcomes,
  2. Dossier #451, "A Prosthelytizer To Burn," in which controversy over the burning of religious texts was brought to the attention of national leaders, who could deal with the problem by permitting the burning of books, burning or dispatching the author responsible for the burning, or protecting all books from burning, and
  3. Dossier #724, "Your Stuff Is Forfeit," in which national leaders could decisively respond to the issue of criminal asset forfeiture by choosing to ban the practice, permit forfeiture by police, or place forfeiture under government authority,
Revering the immense contributions of Sierra Lyricalia's military forces to the fight against fascism throughout the multiverse, including:

  1. serving as Squadron Admiral of the Huey P. Newton Squadron of The Red Fleet, and maintaining the Fleet's current staging point,
  2. staging and pointing missions out of The Rainbow Fleet, which were instrumental to the 3-day operation culminating in the fall of The Iron Confederacy,
  3. preserving over twenty-three destroyed fascist regions as memorials to the fight against fascism, including but not limited to The Fourth International, United Arkadia, The Communist Yeets, The Coalition of Steel, The Communist Union, and American Patriot Militia,
Adding that the World Assembly delegation of Sierra Lyricalia is widely hailed as a force for good, an unyielding provider of advice and support to newer delegations, and an ever-welcome figure at the World Assembly Strangers' Bar under the representation of one Leonid Berkman Pavonis,

Hereby commends Sierra Lyricalia.
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preserving over twenty-three destroyed fascist regions as memorials to the fight against fascism, including but not limited to The Fourth International, United Arkadia, The Communist Yeets, The Coalition of Steel, The Communist Union, and American Patriot Militia

Holding 23 trophy regions is hardly an achievement. Put them on a login script and never look at it again.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:04 pm

Support.

I'm quite enamoured with the representation of Issues as "problem exists, nations provide the options" - to me, it feels much better than other Commend-style representations of Issues. That said, "Menus" of options is an incredibly weird way of putting it. It's not a deal-breaker, but "lists" or "dossiers" would be much more fitting for a piece of international legislation IMO.

It might also be worth mentioning SL's contributions to other communities, such as Haiku through their puppet Logophilia Lyricalia.
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Postby Cretox State » Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:16 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:I'm quite enamoured with the representation of Issues as "problem exists, nations provide the options" - to me, it feels much better than other Commend-style representations of Issues. That said, "Menus" of options is an incredibly weird way of putting it. It's not a deal-breaker, but "lists" or "dossiers" would be much more fitting for a piece of international legislation IMO.

OOC: I changed it to "dossiers."
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Postby Morover » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:22 pm

It may be worth ditching the issue numbers and instead just give the titles - the repeated use of the phrase "Dossier" in the examples you give becomes repetitive, and I'm unsure how it would look with just the numbers.

Your first clause ("Saluting...") also seems a bit off to me right now, but I don't know why. Perhaps it's because you group the General Assembly (an organization) with "presenters..." (individuals) and "anti-fascist military forces" (groups of individuals). I don't know entirely how to fix it, nor am I sure if it is an issue at all beyond my own sleep-deprived mind, but I figure it's worth pointing out either way. Perhaps a greater reflection of SL as an individual as opposed to generalizing the groups that they are a part of would be more accurate - it's weird because I do the same thing a lot of the time, I'm just unsure if it works when it applies to someone who has contributed to a vast variety of subjects.

I also think that the significance of their helping in the drafting of GA proposals should be better expressed - I assume that's what you were going for in the latter part of the second clause, but it is not very explicit.

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Postby Cretox State » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:25 pm

Morover wrote:It may be worth ditching the issue numbers and instead just give the titles - the repeated use of the phrase "Dossier" in the examples you give becomes repetitive, and I'm unsure how it would look with just the numbers.

Your first clause ("Saluting...") also seems a bit off to me right now, but I don't know why. Perhaps it's because you group the General Assembly (an organization) with "presenters..." (individuals) and "anti-fascist military forces" (groups of individuals). I don't know entirely how to fix it, nor am I sure if it is an issue at all beyond my own sleep-deprived mind, but I figure it's worth pointing out either way. Perhaps a greater reflection of SL as an individual as opposed to generalizing the groups that they are a part of would be more accurate - it's weird because I do the same thing a lot of the time, I'm just unsure if it works when it applies to someone who has contributed to a vast variety of subjects.

I also think that the significance of their helping in the drafting of GA proposals should be better expressed - I assume that's what you were going for in the latter part of the second clause, but it is not very explicit.

OOC: Interesting. I could combine "Saluting..." with the clause beneath it, bump everything up, and use "Expanding.." to talk about drafting. That'll make it flow better while preserving the acrostic. I'll also see how it looks without the "Dossier #XXX." On further inspection, certain parts of the draft are a bit uncomfortable for me to read, but that might be my own sleep-deprived brain talking. :p

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:21 pm

Darn, I had a fully completed draft ready, but I was dragging my feet in asking for permission... Anyways it’s very weak and mentioning one of the issues is illegal
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:26 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:Darn, I had a fully completed draft ready, but I was dragging my feet in asking for permission... Anyways it’s very weak and mentioning one of the issues is illegal

I'm assuming R1, but which issue? I'm pretty sure SL had retired from editorship prior to the publication of #724, and they definitely weren't an editor prior to the publication of #451.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:30 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Darn, I had a fully completed draft ready, but I was dragging my feet in asking for permission... Anyways it’s very weak and mentioning one of the issues is illegal

I'm assuming R1, but which issue? I'm pretty sure SL had retired from editorship prior to the publication of #724, and they definitely weren't an editor prior to the publication of #451.

According to previous drafts, it’s 724.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:33 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:I'm assuming R1, but which issue? I'm pretty sure SL had retired from editorship prior to the publication of #724, and they definitely weren't an editor prior to the publication of #451.

According to previous drafts, it’s 724.

Huh? The last issue they edited was #614, so it's odd that they were still a member of the team 100 issues later. That said, I'll bow to precedent if it's been ruled illegal in the past.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:41 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:According to previous drafts, it’s 724.

Huh. The last issue they edited was #614, so it's odd that they were still a member of the team 100 issues later. That said, I'll bow to precedent if it's been ruled illegal in the past.

It’s likely they put the issue on the forum before they bowed out as editor, since issues such as those are illegal too
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:46 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:Huh. The last issue they edited was #614, so it's odd that they were still a member of the team 100 issues later. That said, I'll bow to precedent if it's been ruled illegal in the past.

It’s likely they put the issue on the forum before they bowed out as editor, since issues such as those are illegal too

Having gotten back to a computer... it does seem that mentioning #724 is definitely illegal. Oh well, no big loss - that one issue won't make the difference ;)
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:51 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Darn, I had a fully completed draft ready, but I was dragging my feet in asking for permission... Anyways it’s very weak and mentioning one of the issues is illegal

OOC: I cut #724. Yes, it's not as flowery as this dropped one, but I specifically wanted to keep this one short and to-the-point. What specifically makes this "very weak"?
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:18 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:It’s likely they put the issue on the forum before they bowed out as editor, since issues such as those are illegal too

Having gotten back to a computer... it does seem that mentioning #724 is definitely illegal. Oh well, no big loss - that one issue won't make the difference ;)

So there's been another discussion on this, and it's been decided that authored issues published after an IE has left the team can be cited in Commendations/Condemnations.

So for clarity:

You cannot Commend / Condemn for any issues editing.

You can Commend / Condemn for any issues authoring, so long as the issues were not published whilst the author was an Issues Editor.

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Postby Cretox State » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:40 pm

"Flip-flop flip-flog wink-wink nudge-nudge revert. #724 is included in the draft once again."

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Cretox State wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Darn, I had a fully completed draft ready, but I was dragging my feet in asking for permission... Anyways it’s very weak and mentioning one of the issues is illegal

OOC: I cut #724. Yes, it's not as flowery as this dropped one, but I specifically wanted to keep this one short and to-the-point. What specifically makes this "very weak"?

It's basically three issues and one GA, as well as antifash. Needs to expand on why SL is helpful etc
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:52 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Cretox State wrote:OOC: I cut #724. Yes, it's not as flowery as this dropped one, but I specifically wanted to keep this one short and to-the-point. What specifically makes this "very weak"?

It's basically three issues and one GA, as well as antifash. Needs to expand on why SL is helpful etc

I’d like to echo this. As it stands in the proposal, SL’s achievements are not enough imo. A single General Assembly resolution? Just one can be a fluke. Three issues are not very many, at least in this day and age. SL’s promotion to TRF’s admiralty is also fairly recent.

I expect there is much more that can be said for SL’s GA resume that will greatly improve the likelihood of this passing. Work on that.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:52 am

Cretox State wrote:an ever-welcome figure at the World Assembly Strangers' Bar under the representation of one Leonid Berkman Pavonis,

Ever welcome maybe, active not really. Last post was May and before that start of April. Looking at the messages, they post in the topic once a month at most.

Edit: Unless they post under a puppet as well, if they do it should be linked in the proposal to avoid confusion.
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"We've put up the second draft of this proposal, with Honeydewistania coauthoring."

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Cretox State wrote:"We've put up the second draft of this proposal, with Honeydewistania coauthoring."

Who is this clown? Bet they couldn't write if their life was dependent on it!
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Postby Cretox State » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:24 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Cretox State wrote:"We've put up the second draft of this proposal, with Honeydewistania coauthoring."

Who is this clown? Bet they couldn't write if their life was dependent on it!

You're right! Their name should be removed from the proposal. What were we thinking?

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Postby Cretox State » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:11 pm

OOC: Bumping this.


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