[DROPPED] Commend Sierra Lyricalia (Version 9)

[Willania Imperium]

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What's this then?

A separate, also undrafted proposal. Thank you though for getting me to read through the discussion, which included your dishonesty about WA multi-ing and your insistence that Moderation was investigating your ejection when they were not.

A what? That's it. While SL is a commendable person who deserves a Commendation, it doesn't deserve a rushed, sloppy proposal from a nation with previous trouble with the Mods. If the target advises to have this not submitted, then I follow suit on it.

[Greater Cesnica]

A separate, also undrafted proposal. Thank you though for getting me to read through the discussion, which included your dishonesty about WA multi-ing and your insistence that Moderation was investigating your ejection when they were not.

A what? That's it. While SL is a commendable person who deserves a Commendation, it doesn't deserve a rushed, sloppy proposal from a nation with previous trouble with the Mods. If the target advises to have this not submitted, then I follow suit on it.

You clearly didn't read my response.

[Greater Cesnica]

Just hear me out. What Wallenburg said is true, but only partially. You see, mods were right about two WA accounts made on the same computer. That does not mean that someone else (hem hem, my roommate) didn't make another account. We unknowingly broke the rules there. Also, the wording of the mod message given to me made it sound like they were investigating. And finally, as I have said multiple times, this proposal was to see how the WA would receive it. It looks like it's gonna hit quorum, but to be passed, a whole new level. If it fails, it's on me. Alright?

[Ransium]

Um. Wow, OK. I know I gave you my blessing and I truly, sincerely appreciate the thought, kindness, and effort that went into this, but... in light of the various turns this thread has taken, I would like to ask that you not submit this. If the World Assembly sees fit to commend me, I would like it to be done as I would advise any GA author to do it: slowly, deliberately, and with both the willingness to be advised and the ability to apply the advice given.

I'm sorry. Maybe next time.

So you don't care SL as kindly as possible asked you to stop? You can't pass a Commend against the targets will. Abandon this now or I promise you it is going to go down in flames.

[The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper]

Also, Wrapper, a forum mod approved it.

You appear to have confused my actions as a player with my actions as a moderator. Therefore, I am posting from this nation to make it absolutely clear that I'm posting this as a player and not a moderator. I withdrew my approval, as a player, because I changed my mind, as is my prerogative as a WA delegate. As for whether this is legal or not, I've mentioned more than once -- during my vacation no less, at which time I had no obligations as a moderator to do anything, but figured I'd be a nice guy and all that jazz -- that we have a ruling coming. How difficult is it to be patient and wait for that ruling? Unlike something that's time-sensitive like a liberation or a repeal of one, there's absolutely no reason to rush this out. Be patient.

Um. Wow, OK. I know I gave you my blessing and I truly, sincerely appreciate the thought, kindness, and effort that went into this, but... in light of the various turns this thread has taken, I would like to ask that you not submit this. If the World Assembly sees fit to commend me, I would like it to be done as I would advise any GA author to do it: slowly, deliberately, and with both the willingness to be advised and the ability to apply the advice given.

I'm sorry. Maybe next time.

Oh you humble little so-and-so....

[Greater Cesnica]

Um. Wow, OK. I know I gave you my blessing and I truly, sincerely appreciate the thought, kindness, and effort that went into this, but... in light of the various turns this thread has taken, I would like to ask that you not submit this. If the World Assembly sees fit to commend me, I would like it to be done as I would advise any GA author to do it: slowly, deliberately, and with both the willingness to be advised and the ability to apply the advice given.

I'm sorry. Maybe next time.

So you don't care SL as kindly as possible asked you to stop? You can't pass a Commend against the targets will. Abandon this now or I promise you it is going to go down in flames.

I removed the proposal. I still have tons of stamps left, so I'll let further 2 cents come in. Also, about the adding juice to the proposal: The formatting appears to be eating all of the characters. Help?

[West Esung]

A separate, also undrafted proposal. Thank you though for getting me to read through the discussion, which included your dishonesty about WA multi-ing and your insistence that Moderation was investigating your ejection when they were not.

A what? That's it. While SL is a commendable person who deserves a Commendation, it doesn't deserve a rushed, sloppy proposal from a nation with previous trouble with the Mods. If the target advises to have this not submitted, then I follow suit on it.

Wait what? THAT WAS YOU? Dear Lord if I knew.

[Consular]

Wow this thread was a rollercoaster to read. I almost don't know what to say.

As a general comment I would (tentatively) support a commendation of Sierra Lyricalia, but definitely would NOT if it was filed by Greater Cesnica.

[Greater Cesnica]

Wow this thread was a rollercoaster to read. I almost don't know what to say.

As a general comment I would (tentatively) support a commendation of Sierra Lyricalia, but definitely would NOT if it was filed by Greater Cesnica.

As I have posted before, the incident was dealt with. I'm trying to repair my reputation. I'm trying to actually make a good draft.

[States of Glory]

Wow this thread was a rollercoaster to read. I almost don't know what to say.

As a general comment I would (tentatively) support a commendation of Sierra Lyricalia, but definitely would NOT if it was filed by Greater Cesnica.

As I have posted before, the incident was dealt with. I'm trying to repair my reputation. I'm trying to actually make a good draft.

Do or do not. There is no try (unless you're playing rugby). In this case, do not.

[Greater Cesnica]

As I have posted before, the incident was dealt with. I'm trying to repair my reputation. I'm trying to actually make a good draft.

Do or do not. There is no try (unless you're playing rugby). In this case, do not.

Because?

[Kaboomlandia]

Do or do not. There is no try (unless you're playing rugby). In this case, do not.

Because?

Because the target of the condemnation has kindly asked you to drop this proposal.

[Willania Imperium]

Because?

Because the target of the condemnation has kindly asked you to drop this proposal.

And if a target doesn't want something that may benefit them, I advise you heed their advice.

[Greater Cesnica]

Because?

Because the target of the condemnation has kindly asked you to drop this proposal.

... Fine.

[Greater Cesnica]

I've dropped the proposal, because no one would want to be commended by me. And I understand that.

[Ransium]

I've dropped the proposal, because no one would want to be commended by me. And I understand that.

Oh drop, the woe is me attitude. This didn't happen because you're not a worthwhile human being, or not smart enough, or whatever. It's because you didn't really listen to experienced player's advice. It's really easy to fix. In the future, if someone says the clauses are too vague, do more research. If someone says, you need to take a couple weeks minimum to draft something, take a couple weeks minimum. Don't constantly bump and quadruple post your threads. Just be genuinely receptive to criticism, make a real effort towards addressing the criticism, and be patient; you'll go a long way not just in the WA, but in many different ventures.

Also guess what? This is the internet, nobody but the mods have to know who you really are. You can easily leave the WA with this nation, make a new WA nation in no way associated with this one or your former one, and try again (with a different target), while actually following the above advice.

[Greater Cesnica]

I've dropped the proposal, because no one would want to be commended by me. And I understand that.

Oh drop, the woe is me attitude. This didn't happen because you're not a worthwhile human being, or not smart enough, or whatever. It's because you didn't really listen to experienced player's advice. It's really easy to fix. In the future, if someone says the clauses are too vague, do more research. If someone says, you need to take a couple weeks minimum to draft something, take a couple weeks minimum. Don't constantly bump and quadruple post your threads. Just be genuinely receptive to criticism, make a real effort towards addressing the criticism, and be patient; you'll go a long way not just in the WA, but in many different ventures.

Also guess what? This is the internet, nobody but the mods have to know who you really are. You can easily leave the WA with this nation, make a new WA nation in no way associated with this one or your former one, and try again (with a different target), while actually following the above advice.

I thought about rebuilding myself up, but can't really think of playing a deception like that.

[Sciongrad]

Oh drop, the woe is me attitude. This didn't happen because you're not a worthwhile human being, or not smart enough, or whatever. It's because you didn't really listen to experienced player's advice. It's really easy to fix. In the future, if someone says the clauses are too vague, do more research. If someone says, you need to take a couple weeks minimum to draft something, take a couple weeks minimum. Don't constantly bump and quadruple post your threads. Just be genuinely receptive to criticism, make a real effort towards addressing the criticism, and be patient; you'll go a long way not just in the WA, but in many different ventures.

Also guess what? This is the internet, nobody but the mods have to know who you really are. You can easily leave the WA with this nation, make a new WA nation in no way associated with this one or your former one, and try again (with a different target), while actually following the above advice.

I thought about rebuilding myself up, but can't really think of playing a deception like that.

For what it's worth, that's exactly what I did.

[Greater Cesnica]

I thought about rebuilding myself up, but can't really think of playing a deception like that.

For what it's worth, that's exactly what I did.

I just hate how people bring back old shit and then remind me of it as if trying to draft something while SL himself doesn't like it wasn't hard enough.

[Wrapper]

Just for the record, under the ruling we've put out, this would have been illegal for including Issue #724. The rest appears to be legal, since the GenSec stuff was removed.

[Greater Cesnica]

Just for the record, under the ruling we've put out, this would have been illegal for including Issue #724. The rest appears to be legal, since the GenSec stuff was removed.

Touche. I so badly want to open the draft again, but SL and the rest of the WA would be pissed. I want to try again.

[Separatist Peoples]

Just for the record, under the ruling we've put out, this would have been illegal for including Issue #724. The rest appears to be legal, since the GenSec stuff was removed.

Touche. I so badly want to open the draft again, but SL and the rest of the WA would be pissed. I want to try again.

Pick a different target. Its very rude to commend somebody against their will.

[Greater Cesnica]

Touche. I so badly want to open the draft again, but SL and the rest of the WA would be pissed. I want to try again.

Pick a different target. Its very rude to commend somebody against their will.

Noted.