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Postby Dabout » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:47 pm

There are currently two fighters in service with the National Dabouti Defence Force, the F-5ED Tiger II and the JA 37D Viggen. The most numerous aircraft in service is the A-37B Dragonfly.
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Postby Lamborghinia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:12 pm

The Lamborghinian Air Force operates the LF-30 War Eagle. The War Eagle has been operated by the Air Force since 2010, with the first one delivered in January 1st, 2010.
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There are both naval variants and air force variants, which the naval variant features a little longer range by 200 kilometers and has slightly larger wings. It can be armed with up to 12 air-to-air missiles, and a majority of laser-guided bombs.
Currently, the navy operates 600 LF-30N (Navy variant) and the Air Force operates 930 of the LF-30A, and is planning to triple the number by 2018.

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Postby United States of Raptors » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:35 pm

Marquesan wrote:Mmmm...whirlybird.

Bird, Whirly Type. That's a fine-lookin' whirlybird ya got there.

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National passtime of the Marquesan Shogunate when our fighter jets are not being employed for combat air patrol.


That image looks like it would be a wast of resources.
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Postby Star Trek America » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:39 pm

Lamborghinia wrote:The Lamborghinian Air Force operates the LF-30 War Eagle. The War Eagle has been operated by the Air Force since 2010, with the first one delivered in January 1st, 2010.
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There are both naval variants and air force variants, which the naval variant features a little longer range by 200 kilometers and has slightly larger wings. It can be armed with up to 12 air-to-air missiles, and a majority of laser-guided bombs.
Currently, the navy operates 600 LF-30N (Navy variant) and the Air Force operates 930 of the LF-30A, and is planning to triple the number by 2018.


I remember that movie. <_>

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Postby New Vihenia » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:37 am

Hmm things that i love from Ace Combat and in fact do heavily influenced me are the "Super planes"..
and i enjoy making them and put my flag at it.

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Postby South Romagnia » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:17 pm

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The Fiat G.55 makes up a large number of our current fighters, but is slowly being moved out to the outer territories in favor of the Macchi MC.202.

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The Macchi MC.202 Folfore is one of our newer all-metal interceptor/fighters. It may not be the best, but its balance makes it well liked.

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Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:20 pm

Star Trek America wrote:
Lamborghinia wrote:The Lamborghinian Air Force operates the LF-30 War Eagle. The War Eagle has been operated by the Air Force since 2010, with the first one delivered in January 1st, 2010.
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There are both naval variants and air force variants, which the naval variant features a little longer range by 200 kilometers and has slightly larger wings. It can be armed with up to 12 air-to-air missiles, and a majority of laser-guided bombs.
Currently, the navy operates 600 LF-30N (Navy variant) and the Air Force operates 930 of the LF-30A, and is planning to triple the number by 2018.


I remember that movie. <_>

I never saw it. I just saw the planes. And thought how stupid the looked. Forward Swing Wing is fail wing.
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Postby United States of Raptors » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:33 pm

New Vihenia wrote:Hmm things that i love from Ace Combat and in fact do heavily influenced me are the "Super planes"..
and i enjoy making them and put my flag at it.

like these

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Anyway..let the drill begin.

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So two variants of the Berkut and one variant of the F-16 correct?
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:35 pm

United States of Raptors wrote:
New Vihenia wrote:Hmm things that i love from Ace Combat and in fact do heavily influenced me are the "Super planes"..
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like these

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So two variants of the Berkut and one variant of the F-16 correct?

Its NV they're probably original from scratch designs.
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Postby United States of Raptors » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:22 pm

The Corparation wrote:
United States of Raptors wrote:
So two variants of the Berkut and one variant of the F-16 correct?

Its NV they're probably original from scratch designs.


They still look like Berkuts and F-16s to me.
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Postby Independent Carolina » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:36 pm

The Republic has control over one of the former USA's biggest military bases, Fort Bragg, so many different fighters make up the Carolinian Air Force. The main fighter, however, would be the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:46 pm

Independent Carolina wrote:The Republic has control over one of the former USA's biggest military bases, Fort Bragg, so many different fighters make up the Carolinian Air Force. The main fighter, however, would be the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

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So...not to nitpick, but I'm fairly sure there are no Marine aircraft stationed at Bragg.

I'm going to assume you're located in North Carolina, given your name and your claiming Fort Bragg.

Seymour Johnson is in NC, and the 4th fighter wing is there. looks like their flying F-15E's

I suppose your F/A-18's could have come from Cherry Point? The 2nd Marine Aircraft Wong has em.

Anyways, I suppose my point was, you don't usually find Marine aircraft at an Army post primarily given over to Airborne and special operations forces. Had a friend stationed at Bragg, he was a member of one of only three non Airborne, that is to say "leg" formations at Bragg.

Also, pretty sure that picture is an F/A-18, not an F/A-18E or F. :P
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Postby Strykla » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:05 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Star Trek America wrote:
I remember that movie. <_>

I never saw it. I just saw the planes. And thought how stupid the looked. Forward Swing Wing is fail wing.

Not necessarily, just has a fucktonne of kinks yet to be worked out. The wiki page on the Berkut lists a few advantages of forward-swept wings, not least of which includes *ridiculous* maneuverability.

Northrop worked on an idea called the Switchblade in '99. It never came to fruition, but just like flying aircraft carriers and battleship-sized space warships, it's not impossible. Plus, for how shitty Stealth was, they really weren't messing around with the aircraft props. I mean seriously, that's not CGI right there.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:49 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Also, pretty sure that picture is an F/A-18, not an F/A-18E or F. :P


Nope, it's an F/A-18F. You can see the intakes.
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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:52 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Also, pretty sure that picture is an F/A-18, not an F/A-18E or F. :P


Nope, it's an F/A-18F. You can see the intakes.


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Postby Estainia » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:15 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Star Trek America wrote:
I remember that movie. <_>

I never saw it. I just saw the planes. And thought how stupid the looked. Forward Swing Wing is fail wing.


Stealth was awesome. ._.

From the movie perspective not the realism perspective
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Postby New Vihenia » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:03 am

United States of Raptors wrote:So two variants of the Berkut and one variant of the F-16 correct?


nope.

They're based on my old sketch dated back to some ...2004 perhaps.

For the closest analogue perhaps.. instead berkut..it's more like Su-35 with FSW and TA-50 Golden Eagle but with supersonic intake.

Estainia wrote:Stealth was awesome. ._.

From the movie perspective not the realism perspective


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Postby Syldania » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:00 am

Due to being excluded from NATO during the Cold War (a condition imposed after WWII by the Soviets, as they had been attempting to interfere in our politics and had threatened to invade in 1950), we developed a close relationship with Sweden and from the 1960's began purchasing their military equipment. Our air force acquired the Saab 37 Viggen in the mid 70's, and in the early-2000s purchased the Gripen, despite brazen German attempts to get us to purchase the Eurofighter Typhoon, although we nearly opted for the French Rafale. The Gripen recently saw service over the skies of Libya, forming part of the Syldanian contribution to that operation.

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Postby Elan Valleys » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:24 am

So.

The A37 Dragonfly (or more specifically the OA-37B) looks pretty useful.

But could a Bae Hawk do everything the Dragonfly does?
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Postby Transnapastain » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:17 am

Elan Valleys wrote:So.

The A37 Dragonfly (or more specifically the OA-37B) looks pretty useful.

But could a Bae Hawk do everything the Dragonfly does?


Well, the Hawk is usually unarmed and used as a trainer, but as I'm sure you're aware, Wiki has some stats for optional armaments. The listed weapons are all air to air, however.

- 1× 30 mm ADEN cannon, in centreline pod
- Up to 6,800 lb (3,085 kg) of weapons on five hardpoints, including:
- 4× AIM-9 Sidewinder or ASRAAM on wing pylons and wingtip rails
- 1,500 lb (680 kg), limited to one centreline and two wing pylons (Hawk T1)

So, the cannon is larger than the 7.62 NATO GAU-2B on the A-37.

You have the same number of hard points, with the Hawk carrying more. The A-37 already carried AIM-9
s, no complications there. I don't see why it couldn't carry Hydra 70 or 120 rocket pods, bombs, maybe even newer SDB munitions instead of regular iron bombs, something like the Paveway II and maybe even GBU-38 JDAM's, or the gun pods from the A-37. Of course, you really don't need that kind of firepower for COIN. :P

Its faster, but not my much. In COIN and observation, you don't actually want speed, what you want is loiter time. The Hawk has close to double the range of the A-37.

Edit: It looks like the cockpit arrangement might not be as optimal as the A-37's for observation. I'd think the tandem arrangement would facilitate that.

I think you could do it.

Also, thanks for reminding me about the Hawk, I had been meaning to use it for something...I may steal your idea and have it replace the A-37's I've surplussed and sold off. Of course, Trans doesn't really have a need for a COIN or low-intensity conflict light attacker at the moment.
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Postby Elan Valleys » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:33 am

Well as the training squadrons already use the Hawk it made sense to use them rather than a whole new type.
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Postby The Corparation » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:38 am

Strykla wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I never saw it. I just saw the planes. And thought how stupid the looked. Forward Swing Wing is fail wing.

Not necessarily, just has a fucktonne of kinks yet to be worked out. The wiki page on the Berkut lists a few advantages of forward-swept wings, not least of which includes *ridiculous* maneuverability.

Northrop worked on an idea called the Switchblade in '99. It never came to fruition, but just like flying aircraft carriers and battleship-sized space warships, it's not impossible. Plus, for how shitty Stealth was, they really weren't messing around with the aircraft props. I mean seriously, that's not CGI right there.

Forward Swept wings have some advantages.Although they do have a lot of cons,such as increased weight, a weaker wing, instability at higher speeds and a few others. Most of the advantages of forward swept wings can be obtained by using leading edge extensions, thrust vectoring and a few other things. Forward Swing wings though are an entirely different matter.

The Northrop switchblade never came to anything because no one has any idea how to make the concept work. For one thing the swing mechanism would be even heavier and complex than existing swing wing designs, which means a massive hit to fuel and payloads. But most importantly the shape of the cross section of the airfoil when swept when swept wouldn't be the proper shape to generate lift, and creates a massive amount of drag coupled with a huge penalty to speed and manueverbility. Theoretically you could possibly do it if you spent enough time on it, but the design would give zero advantages over more conventional wing layouts.

The fact they built a very nice prop means nothing as the design wouldn't be able to fly, and if they did get it of the ground, it would have the serious issues I listed above and would lack a useful payload.
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Postby A Hooloovoo » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:49 pm

Wonder if the X-02 Wyvern would work in real life, what with the flattening tail and forward swept swing wing that folds INSIDE the aircraft

actually who even cares, the Wyvern is fucking awesome regardless of silliness
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Postby The Japanese Liberation Front » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:56 pm

A Hooloovoo wrote:Wonder if the X-02 Wyvern would work in real life, what with the flattening tail and forward swept swing wing that folds INSIDE the aircraft

actually who even cares, the Wyvern is fucking awesome regardless of silliness


According to someone it would; at ridiculous upkeep costs and prone to mechanical failure and being far too complex for not enough pay out in exchange for lolcosts.

I read that on the tubes though so don't hold me to it.



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Nova-class Fighter
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Year introduced: 2140
Length: 37 ft
Maximum speed: 6,500 MPH
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