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The Land of the Ephyral
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Posts: 798
Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:57 pm

APPLICATION
Nation Name: Ephyra
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes.
Does your nation have WA status: Yes.
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[X] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Libya and Tunisia (In Gold: https://i.imgur.com/pw0FAUs.png)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,923,610
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: First off. I don't know the size of the claim I already have. I think this added to it is still under the limit, but allow me to explain why I wish to claim these lands. This is a historical claim. I haven't decided when these territories would be acquired but I think they would be the expansion of territories held since about the 1400s-1500s, and definitely solidified by the 18th to 19th century at the latest. Effectively, they are expanded territories of slave-colonies to harvest the other bountiful resources of Africa, usually through slave labour. Because of how many slaves were re-distributed, sold on, or simply how our slaving caused populations to migrate away, the population of these territories is going to be significantly smaller, and due to Ephyral policies already, this won't cause a massive increase in the population nor population growth, so I'm not claiming dense territories if you consider that (I), Libya is several times bigger than Tunisia IRL but has almost half the population, and (II), early conquest of these regions and gradual expansion means that the population was never 'united' and didn't grow under its own administration.

If it comes to be that my claim is too big, I am more willing to sacrifice Tunisia than Libya, because of the latter's proximity to the empire making the most sense. This brings me to my second point, geography. The Ephyral capital has been centred on the modern-day site of Heraklion, though named Arys Ephyra and much larger, since I moved back here and claimed my first territories in June. Historically, Ephyra has expanded west, east and north, but not south. I think it makes a good geographical lore point for Ephyra to secure it's southern stretch of ocean by territories on the other side, as there is very little in the way of protection for the capital aside from assistance from mainland Turkey.

So... those are my general points really. The real life populations of these territories are smaller, and are probably going to be smaller still in the CoDN version. They will count to essentially nothing of the Imperial population. The geographical location is line with typical expansionist interests, especially with a capital located father south than virtually all the current mainland territories, and with Africa in the eyes of Ephyra being an untapped (then) resource of slaves and other goods that they could trade. As other powers grew, the Ephyral solidified their control over the territory, forming it into the shape we recognise as Libya and Tunisia. This is basically to ensure the borders aren't messy and those claiming Africa at any other point are not forced to just pick up remnants of other RL nations.

If you have issues with my map claim aside from size, or if you have an issue with what I've already posted, I would request you TG me about it and I can then either explain what I mean further, or come to some arrangement that we're both happy. To me, it less sense that Ephyra ignores African entirely. Why a slaving people would ignore what was then and still is to a degree today, a primitive continent (given that the dominant powers in Africa are colonial anyway), rich with new resources alongside slaves to utilise them is entirely beyond me, and I'm actually unsure why this wasn't a thing for me sooner.

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Dranchund
Secretary
 
Posts: 35
Founded: Jun 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Dranchund » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:47 pm

Nation Name: Dranchund
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes.
Does your nation have WA status: Yes.
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[X] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Inner China (Yellow and Yangtze rivers area, and coastal China. see linked image https://sta.sh/01usbd7tf3v5)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): I'm not sure how to count it exactly, but the Yellow-Yangtze drainage basin where Dranchund originates is only 750,000 square km. So I'm sure this is under the 2 million cap.
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Noone else claimed it, and I believe I meet the requirements. As for lore:
Dranchund is an old society, it's origins date back as far as the Bronze Age. As such, it makes sense to base it in a river valley where agriculture would have taken off. While it was at multiple points in history a large empire, it has since been reduced to barely beyond it's heartland.

Also, please note my factbook is WIP, and will be updated in the coming weeks, assuming my claim is accepted.
Last edited by Dranchund on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Dragomerian Islands
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Posts: 2745
Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Dragomerian Islands » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:20 pm

Kestvala wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: Kestvala
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
Does your nation have WA status: Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[x] Modification
What land are you claiming: So here's the thing. I'm looking to do a deal with Ephyral where I RP a population of people inside his country. He can kick me out at any point. He'll confirm that this is happening.
Size of all Claims (sq. km): Not applicable to this situation
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Because it's not a claim, so...

Removal Accepted.

Raffaellica wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: Raffaellica
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
Does your nation have WA status: Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[X] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: the Vatican, San Marino and Liechtenstein (addition of the micronations existing in my current territory)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 221.64
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: vital to RP and all reasons discussed and issues settled

Claim Accepted.

Republic of Washinton wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: Republic of Washinton
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
Does your nation have WA status: Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[x] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Alaska (including the Aleutian Islands)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,717,856 km2
Why is your claim fair in your opinion:
No one has laid claim to Alaska for some time. The area also has a RL low population density due to the terrain and harsh weather.

Pending: What is the TOTAL land area? You only put down Alaska's land area.

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: Ephyra
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes.
Does your nation have WA status: Yes.
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[X] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Libya and Tunisia (In Gold: https://i.imgur.com/pw0FAUs.png)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,923,610
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: First off. I don't know the size of the claim I already have. I think this added to it is still under the limit, but allow me to explain why I wish to claim these lands. This is a historical claim. I haven't decided when these territories would be acquired but I think they would be the expansion of territories held since about the 1400s-1500s, and definitely solidified by the 18th to 19th century at the latest. Effectively, they are expanded territories of slave-colonies to harvest the other bountiful resources of Africa, usually through slave labour. Because of how many slaves were re-distributed, sold on, or simply how our slaving caused populations to migrate away, the population of these territories is going to be significantly smaller, and due to Ephyral policies already, this won't cause a massive increase in the population nor population growth, so I'm not claiming dense territories if you consider that (I), Libya is several times bigger than Tunisia IRL but has almost half the population, and (II), early conquest of these regions and gradual expansion means that the population was never 'united' and didn't grow under its own administration.

If it comes to be that my claim is too big, I am more willing to sacrifice Tunisia than Libya, because of the latter's proximity to the empire making the most sense. This brings me to my second point, geography. The Ephyral capital has been centred on the modern-day site of Heraklion, though named Arys Ephyra and much larger, since I moved back here and claimed my first territories in June. Historically, Ephyra has expanded west, east and north, but not south. I think it makes a good geographical lore point for Ephyra to secure it's southern stretch of ocean by territories on the other side, as there is very little in the way of protection for the capital aside from assistance from mainland Turkey.

So... those are my general points really. The real life populations of these territories are smaller, and are probably going to be smaller still in the CoDN version. They will count to essentially nothing of the Imperial population. The geographical location is line with typical expansionist interests, especially with a capital located father south than virtually all the current mainland territories, and with Africa in the eyes of Ephyra being an untapped (then) resource of slaves and other goods that they could trade. As other powers grew, the Ephyral solidified their control over the territory, forming it into the shape we recognise as Libya and Tunisia. This is basically to ensure the borders aren't messy and those claiming Africa at any other point are not forced to just pick up remnants of other RL nations.

If you have issues with my map claim aside from size, or if you have an issue with what I've already posted, I would request you TG me about it and I can then either explain what I mean further, or come to some arrangement that we're both happy. To me, it less sense that Ephyra ignores African entirely. Why a slaving people would ignore what was then and still is to a degree today, a primitive continent (given that the dominant powers in Africa are colonial anyway), rich with new resources alongside slaves to utilise them is entirely beyond me, and I'm actually unsure why this wasn't a thing for me sooner.

PENDING: Can you check your total land area, not just that of Libya? Your claim seems fine otherwise, though you will have to RP the acquisition of it...

Dranchund wrote:Nation Name: Dranchund
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes.
Does your nation have WA status: Yes.
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[X] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Inner China (Yellow and Yangtze rivers area, and coastal China. see linked image https://sta.sh/01usbd7tf3v5)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): I'm not sure how to count it exactly, but the Yellow-Yangtze drainage basin where Dranchund originates is only 750,000 square km. So I'm sure this is under the 2 million cap.
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Noone else claimed it, and I believe I meet the requirements. As for lore:
Dranchund is an old society, it's origins date back as far as the Bronze Age. As such, it makes sense to base it in a river valley where agriculture would have taken off. While it was at multiple points in history a large empire, it has since been reduced to barely beyond it's heartland.

Also, please note my factbook is WIP, and will be updated in the coming weeks, assuming my claim is accepted.

PENDING: Your claim looks fine, though as clarification, can you place an image of the area you want on Imgur and put that in a reply to this post?



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The Land of the Ephyral
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Posts: 798
Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:44 am

Dragomerian Islands wrote:PENDING: Can you check your total land area, not just that of Libya? Your claim seems fine otherwise, though you will have to RP the acquisition of it...


So. The total land area I currently own without this claim comes to a total of about 1,537,789 km².

Adding in both Tunisia and Libya gives me 3,461,399 km².

So it would seem I am still within the claim limit.

And about the acquisition RP. I did say that this was historical correct? Are you expecting a modern Imperial invasion of the region, because that is not what happened in Ephyral history. The Undying Empire between the 13th and 18th centuries, set up outposts and expanded their territory across in that fashion.

I could always RP that if you like but there's going to be nothing in the way of a tank/aircraft RP because... that technology didn't exist when Ephyra took those lands.

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Republic of Washinton
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 395
Founded: Dec 30, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Republic of Washinton » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:25 am

Dragomerian Islands wrote:
Republic of Washinton wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: Republic of Washinton
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
Does your nation have WA status: Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[x] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Alaska (including the Aleutian Islands)
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,717,856 km2
Why is your claim fair in your opinion:
No one has laid claim to Alaska for some time. The area also has a RL low population density due to the terrain and harsh weather.

Pending: What is the TOTAL land area? You only put down Alaska's land area.

My current land area is 9,166,651.7 square kilometers.

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The Unicrons
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 6
Founded: Jun 30, 2017
Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Unicrons » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:30 pm

APPLICATION
Nation Name: The Republic of The Unicrons
[b]Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
[b]Does your nation have WA status: Yes
[b]Claim Type:
(place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[x] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
[b]What land are you claiming: Mongolia
[b]Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,566,000 km
[b]Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Based on the map, no one has claimed Mongolia for quite a while, and I would like to expand my claim to that land as well. So far I claimed Bolivia and Paraguay (1,505,333 km combined), and Mongolia is only 1,566,000 km (3,071,333 km), and I thought it would be justified, as it has a pretty low population as well.

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Saskovia
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Posts: 88
Founded: Apr 18, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Saskovia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:33 pm

APPLICATION
Nation Name: Saskovia
Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
Does your nation have WA status: Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[X] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Jamaica, Cuba, (The) Bahamas
Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,134,753 sq. km2
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Because my claim pick make up a small amount of sq. km.

EDIT: Saskovia's Additional Information: I was seen on the map from maps 8-9 then I dissappeared on the map and went dead. Now I am back, and I would like to make claim on another place. Also, I would have loved to claim my old lands back, but I noticed a country called Hyggemata is back in Northern Yugoslavia, and the country of Islanden took my Guinea-Bissau colony. This means that I have to change my factbook another time, but i'm lucky since I have already pre-changed my factbooks.
Last edited by Saskovia on Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Nazřodirespúblyka Saškovoja
Official Name: The People's Republic of Saskovia
Capital: Žermoni Gory
Official Language: ježyk saškovoju
Population: 6,775,800
President: Jostan Decić
Religion: Orthodox Christianity


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Dranchund
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Posts: 35
Founded: Jun 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Dranchund » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:59 pm

Dragomerian Islands wrote:
Kestvala wrote:APPLICATION


PENDING: Your claim looks fine, though as clarification, can you place an image of the area you want on Imgur and put that in a reply to this post?



MAP WILL BE UPDATED THIS WEEKEND!


https://imgur.com/a/R3Jz1 Map image on Imgur
Last edited by Dranchund on Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Ascoobis
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Posts: 733
Founded: Mar 19, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ascoobis » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:38 am

The Unicrons wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name: The Republic of The Unicrons
[b]Are you a resident of the CoDN: Yes
[b]Does your nation have WA status: Yes
[b]Claim Type:
(place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[_] Initial Claim
[x] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
[b]What land are you claiming: Mongolia
[b]Size of all Claims (sq. km): 1,566,000 km
[b]Why is your claim fair in your opinion: Based on the map, no one has claimed Mongolia for quite a while, and I would like to expand my claim to that land as well. So far I claimed Bolivia and Paraguay (1,505,333 km combined), and Mongolia is only 1,566,000 km (3,071,333 km), and I thought it would be justified, as it has a pretty low population as well.

But it's landlocked on a completely other continent thousands of kilometers away.....
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Creinuntia
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Posts: 68
Founded: Mar 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Creinuntia » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:04 pm

APPLICATION
Nation Name:Creinuntia
Are you a resident of the CoDN:Yes
Does your nation have WA status:Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[X] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Australia/Tasmania
Size of all Claims (sq. km):7.692 million km²
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: My RP population I'm placing right around 250 million, so an Australia sized territory would make sense for me. I would be willing to drop out the Northern Territory if you deem my claim too big.
Last edited by Creinuntia on Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Prusswitonsiakekingkailand
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Posts: 268
Founded: Dec 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Prusswitonsiakekingkailand » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:57 pm

Creinuntia wrote:APPLICATION
Nation Name:Creinuntia
Are you a resident of the CoDN:Yes
Does your nation have WA status:Yes
Claim Type: (place an X between the brackets to denote claim type)
[X] Initial Claim
[_] Expansion/Reduction
[_] Modification
What land are you claiming: Australia
Size of all Claims (sq. km):7.692 million km²
Why is your claim fair in your opinion: My RP population I'm placing right around 250 million, so an Australia sized territory would make sense for me. I would be willing to drop out the Northern Territory if you deem my claim too big.

Most of Australia is just a desert wasteland, so I don't think it really matters.
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Saskovia
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Posts: 88
Founded: Apr 18, 2016
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Postby Saskovia » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:03 pm

ded
Nazřodirespúblyka Saškovoja
Official Name: The People's Republic of Saskovia
Capital: Žermoni Gory
Official Language: ježyk saškovoju
Population: 6,775,800
President: Jostan Decić
Religion: Orthodox Christianity


hi

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Saskovia
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Founded: Apr 18, 2016
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Postby Saskovia » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:50 pm

even more ded!
Nazřodirespúblyka Saškovoja
Official Name: The People's Republic of Saskovia
Capital: Žermoni Gory
Official Language: ježyk saškovoju
Population: 6,775,800
President: Jostan Decić
Religion: Orthodox Christianity


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