Tyran Regional Application Thread

[Carinya]

Well, we'll hold off on that for now unless I get a spot on the map with some hostile neighbors.

Meanwhile, I do need one thing in my history - my royal family is not originally from Carinya; I need another country for them to have come from. (Also, at one point we had a King who was a foreign prince from yet another country, but he just gave up after a few years and went home.)

[Chrysehlia]

Application
Official Name of Nation: Federation of the Chrysehlia Union
Type of Government: Presidential Democratic Federation
Head of Government: President Valerie Locke
Head of State: President Valerie Locke
National Population (cannot be larger than 300 million): 120 Million
Type of Economy: Mixed Economy
Brief Description of Nation (culture, society, politics, ect.): heavily based off English/Scandinavian culture with heavy punic wars era Mediterranean influences from Rome and Greece, mainly in governing styles. However, the English.Scandanavian analogue only serves host to the uniqueness of Chrysehlian culture, as I've tried to develop it as original as possible with my amateur makings of it's own alphabet and traditions taken from a fusion of eastern civilizations. IC'ly, as Chrysehlia's core, it's culture has developed mainly around nature and it's dependency on it's mountainous countryside for protection, as well as their collection of snow providing abundant running rivers to fuel fertile land. Though a more Imperialist idealism comes to light after a period of expansion when the Queendom ruled. Chrysehlia is also a fully Matriarchal society, the common belief being that women must be worshiped as the harbingers of life, men must fulfill their duty in servitude to them to protect the royal bloodline.
Preferred Climate: I originally based it off of a United States rockie mountain/great plains geography with parts being based around switzerland-like geography and climate.
Roleplaying Example or Links (Please provide at least three individual posts or at least three paragraphs):

http://independentorder.net/single/?p=8 ... t=10705061

http://independentorder.net/single/?p=8 ... t=11165351

sorry for off-site post, most recent ones I can only access

Example:
President Valerie Locke stepped from out the Presidential Jet's door, starting down the ladder as the engine's turbines wind down in a light ear-piercing screech. She smiled, waving her hand at the crowd that waved to her, humming to the melody of the national anthem being proudly played. It suddenly started the rain, as usual in Chrysehlia this time of year. She refused an umbrella, opting for a jacket instead. She shook the hand's of the many eager bystanders, finally coming to meet Gorbachev, who stood with his rather smug grin, extending his hand reluctantly to the woman.

"Chairman Gorbachev." she said, over the patter of rain on the ground and playing of the National Band. "It is a pleasure to finally meet you." she and the Chairman walked beside eachother, initiating passive banter and small talk. Finally, they had made it inside, where some orientation on their full bearings were gathered. "If you would please, follow me." President Locke motioned to the Russian, Secret Service men opening the doors for both as they gathered themselves inside the premium high class and armored limo. "I am sorry for the delay, bad weather, as you can see and some of my advisers were paranoid about flying."

(excuse any bad grammer if I didn't catch it, I wrote this rather quickly to give something else ^^)

[Mirarea]

I like both

[Rapallo]

Carinya - I want to hear a little bit of elaboration about how a Prime Minister managed to dissolve the parliament, general by definition a Prime Minister can't dissolve a Parliament due to the fact that they are vested their office by also being a member of parliament. Parliamentary systems also largely function off of a Coalition system.

i would also like to know a little more about this 2009 depression. Since there wasn't any worldwide downturns then in Tyran.

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Chrysehlia - There haven't really been any Romans in the region. The only Italian based nations are myself, Cacerta and a tiny portion of Acrea. And none of them had a Roman-esk start. While Greeks as far as I know haven't been a ruling force in Tyran History, relegated to a minority in Gylias and a few of Ossoria's territory iirc. Other then that I dont see much of an issue.

[Carinya]

Carinya - I want to hear a little bit of elaboration about how a Prime Minister managed to dissolve the parliament, general by definition a Prime Minister can't dissolve a Parliament due to the fact that they are vested their office by also being a member of parliament. Parliamentary systems also largely function off of a Coalition system.

i would also like to know a little more about this 2009 depression. Since there wasn't any worldwide downturns then in Tyran.

Prime Minister - Field Marshall Lluis Moncho dissolved the Parliament back in 1902 through the use of violence and the threat of violence. More precisely, he was a member of the upper house - and was appointed by a provincial legislation - rather than the lower house, and thus did not have to stand for election directly in a constituency. He was just a tyrant; there isn't much else to say about him, except for the fact that he was a symptom of and further cause of the 1872 Constitution's inherent weaknesses.

As for the 2009 depression, if it wasn't a global downturn then I'd say it was just an overheated real estate bubble.

[Gylias]

I don't see nothing wrong with the applicants, and Rapallo's already mentioned the lack of a global economic downturn, so that should be sorted out.

Though, Chrysehlia, I'm curious to hear more details about your economy. What exactly do you mean by "free market"?

[Shalum]

Like my friend, Gylias, above; I have no problem with either application. They look good to me so far. As Rapallo did being up, however, there was no global meltdown in Tyran like with what happened IRL.

[Jolthig]

Tag for interest

[Nalaya]

I have no objections to our current applicants. Hopefully if you guys can jump on the regional IRC, we can get the details hammered out.

[Azura and Montemayor]

I have no objections to any of the applicants at this point.

[Quen Minh]

I concur with the others.

[Rapallo]

-cuttity-
i would also like to know a little more about this 2009 depression. Since there wasn't any worldwide downturns then in Tyran.

-cuttity-
As for the 2009 depression, if it wasn't a global downturn then I'd say it was just an overheated real estate bubble.

You didn't really answer much here, single industry bubbles tend to be a really quick rebounds. With how you describe it you make it out to be this massive depression that destabilized your whole economy and hampered the entirety for nearly a decade. Its the difference between the Dot.Com bubble which lasted 3 years and then rebounded, and the US Housing bubble that took out several other sectors like banking, insurance and etc.

[Acrea]

-cuttity-
As for the 2009 depression, if it wasn't a global downturn then I'd say it was just an overheated real estate bubble.

You didn't really answer much here, single industry bubbles tend to be a really quick rebounds. With how you describe it you make it out to be this massive depression that destabilized your whole economy and hampered the entirety for nearly a decade. Its the difference between the Dot.Com bubble which lasted 3 years and then rebounded, and the US Housing bubble that took out several other sectors like banking, insurance and etc.

I think it's also worth mentioning here that, given the level of economic integration that would certainly result from the history you desire with Carinya and the fact that we are attempting to make a regional economy more of a prominent aspect in the background of regional affairs as a whole, that this bubble and resulting recession would undoubtedly affect other nations in the region on varying levels which is something to consider. In terms of industry bubbles, Real Estate bubbles tend to be particularly nasty when they burst.

[Carinya]

You didn't really answer much here, single industry bubbles tend to be a really quick rebounds. With how you describe it you make it out to be this massive depression that destabilized your whole economy and hampered the entirety for nearly a decade. Its the difference between the Dot.Com bubble which lasted 3 years and then rebounded, and the US Housing bubble that took out several other sectors like banking, insurance and etc.

I think it's also worth mentioning here that, given the level of economic integration that would certainly result from the history you desire with Carinya and the fact that we are attempting to make a regional economy more of a prominent aspect in the background of regional affairs as a whole, that this bubble and resulting recession would undoubtedly affect other nations in the region on varying levels which is something to consider. In terms of industry bubbles, Real Estate bubbles tend to be particularly nasty when they burst.

That being the case, what would you say is the general history of Tyran's economic up-turns and down-turns?

Alternately, I could think of another reason why power changed hands in the most recent election, if purely economic issues are contentious.

[Gylias]

That being the case, what would you say is the general history of Tyran's economic up-turns and down-turns?

It's still being worked out at the moment. I think the only thing that's certain is that, since we have an equivalent of the Second World War more or less, the 1950s, 1960s, and possibly even the 1970s witnessed a period of general prosperity and high economic growth.

[Carinya]

So, how are we doing here?

[Acrea]

Chryselia is good, no questions or objections.

Carinya; I've no concerns other than the economic thing. The details of it would need to be worked out, but otherwise I approve

[Carinya]

All right, I will excise the last paragraph of my economy session, and Carinya will have experienced smooth and untroubled growth since at least the turn of the millenium if not earlier. The fall of the Cambo government will be for political reasons, principally for the defection of his party's left wing in the face of the party's refusal to adhere to their principals, leading to the "deserció de la meitat," where moderate and independent voters were horrified by the left's infighting and flocked to the stable-seeming right-wing Progressive Party.

[Nalaya]

I have no objection to either. Carinya, I'm fine with your market crash.

[Gylias]

Who knows Carinya, once we have more economic canon worked out you might actually be able to reinstate it.

[Mubata]

Chrysehlia is also simultaneously applying to Astyria, possibly other regions, as well. What is the plan? Go to whoever accepts you first?

[West Aotearoa]

OOC: Puppet of Royal Kingdom of Quebec.

Application
Official Name of Nation: Dominion of the West Aotearoa
Type of Government: Constitutional monarchy
Head of Government: His Imperial Majesty the Jacques IX
Head of State: Sir. Reginald Kawiti
National Population (cannot be larger than 300 million): 4.78 million
Type of Economy: Free-market
Brief Description of Nation (culture, society, politics, ect.): West Aotearoa is an island nation two mountainous, decently-sized islands far and isolated from the many. Its islands were first settled by the Maoris, who developed their distinctive culture, before the Quebecois colonisation met after a decade of fruitless war that really didn't help Royal Kingdom of Quebec at all, mostly due to high fatality rate and so on. With the Quebecois and other settlement, it has become a nation with interesting ethnic mix, with those of European descent forming around 41% and Maoris 39% of the population, as well as around 9% of Korean background (due to Quebecois immigration) and 6% of surrounding Islanders (think of Pacific Islanders IRL). A developed country with market economy, as well as stable quality of life and social net structure, making the nation a very livable and harmonious one, though the latter's been more challenging lately.
Preferred Climate: Think of it as similar to New Zealand.
Roleplaying Example or Links (Please provide at least three individual posts or at least three paragraphs):

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=373492&p=28550961&hilit=Conavacio#p28550961
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=25014473#p25014473
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23978193#p23978193

[Quen Minh]

OOC: Puppet of Royal Kingdom of Quebec.

Application
Official Name of Nation: Dominion of the West Aotearoa
Type of Government: Constitutional monarchy
Head of Government: His Imperial Majesty the Jacques IX
Head of State: Sir. Reginald Kawiti
National Population (cannot be larger than 300 million): 4.78 million
Type of Economy: Free-market
Brief Description of Nation (culture, society, politics, ect.): West Aotearoa is an island nation two mountainous, decently-sized islands far and isolated from the many. Its islands were first settled by the Maoris, who developed their distinctive culture, before the Quebecois colonisation met after a decade of fruitless war that really didn't help Royal Kingdom of Quebec at all, mostly due to high fatality rate and so on. With the Quebecois and other settlement, it has become a nation with interesting ethnic mix, with those of European descent forming around 41% and Maoris 39% of the population, as well as around 9% of Korean background (due to Quebecois immigration) and 6% of surrounding Islanders (think of Pacific Islanders IRL). A developed country with market economy, as well as stable quality of life and social net structure, making the nation a very livable and harmonious one, though the latter's been more challenging lately.
Preferred Climate: Think of it as similar to New Zealand.
Roleplaying Example or Links (Please provide at least three individual posts or at least three paragraphs):

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=373492&p=28550961&hilit=Conavacio#p28550961
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=25014473#p25014473
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23978193#p23978193

Elaborate more on the free-market part.

Otherwise, looks good to me.

[Gylias]

Elaborate more on the free-market part.

Since it's quite obviously based on New Zealand...

Rogernomics
Ruthanasia
Someone Else's Country

I assume this is what's being implied by that part.

[Rapallo]

OOC: Puppet of Royal Kingdom of Quebec.
Brief Description of Nation (culture, society, politics, ect.):those of European descent forming around 41% and Maoris 39% of the population, as well as around 9% of Korean background (due to Quebecois immigration) and 6% of surrounding Islanders (think of Pacific Islanders IRL).

I shall tackle this part. There isn't really a "Europe" in Tyran and the "Europeans" are a little far flung and developed all across Northern Tyran. You got the French (Fioran) in Fiore that spread to Acrea, the "English" in Schottia that also spread to Acrea, "Germans" originating in Acrea and spreading to Nordkrussen, Mirarea, Shalum, Azurlavai, Delkora, and Saint Elena, "Italians" (Cacertans) in Cacerta that spread to Rapallo and Acrea, Celts in Ossoria that spread to Schottia, and "Slavs" in Syara, Azur and Montemayor, and Tharsatica.

While the only real asians we have at the moment iirc is Vietnamese (Quhyn) in QuenMinh, Thai (Tam) in Tam Mau, and "Japanese" in Kirisaki, Akashi and Phonox. And as far as I know there aren't many "Pacific Islanders"