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Postby Crookfur » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:01 pm

Metcalfer2 wrote:Would a bomb full of concrete darts the size of 90 mm be a useful weapon and is a brain washed soldier still a effective fighter?


effective against what?

What is the driving force behind such an idea? Concrete bombs are popular as they match the weight and shape of regular bombs precisely so you can use them for precise low collatoral damage attacks without having to change anything on the aircraft or the guidance package.

Sticking a bunch of redcued calibre training bombs into a cluster munition really ignores the precision issue and unless you want your cluster munition to have an inert option that matches the "live" submunitions in terms of size shape and weight (and thus aerodynaic profile) you would be much better off filling it with smaller steel/tungsten darts/flechettes:

have a look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazy_Dog_%28bomb%29



On the second issue you have to define brainwashing for anyoen to really start to answer it. All military soruces have been exposed to some sort of effort to ensure they are motivated to fight for thier nation and desire to defeat the enemy. Sometiems it overt and targeted and other times its more subtle and about instilling a sense of honor and duty i.e. "i may not care about the reasons behind this war but i'll fight as i took an oath to serves" etc etc.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:01 pm

Korva wrote:Tracked vs wheeled field brothels. Pros? Cons?


Hovercraft, obviously.

That way you can have them right on the beaches with the marines.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:04 pm

Korva wrote:Tracked vs wheeled field brothels. Pros? Cons?

More people need to answer this.

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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:24 pm

Wheeled. Otherwise you'd need to do weekly track maintenance and that shit sucks.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:26 pm

That Lazy Dog bomb looks neat. Is that whole 'raining lawn dart' thing effective in a modern battlefield?
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:27 pm

Allanea wrote:Wheeled. Otherwise you'd need to do weekly track maintenance and that shit sucks.

Yeah but tracks spread the weight out more. And why are we even discussing whether or not tracked or wheeled brothels are better?

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Postby Nachmere » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:44 pm

Well it is a major issue regarding deployment of brothels in the modern battlefield

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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:29 pm

Just talked to a friend on the phone and he suggested that military brothels should be rail-borne on trench rail.
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:35 pm

I treat my brothel units like light infantry, they're just attached to transport brigades whenever they need to be moved strategically. So, they just use the same trucks as any other type of infantry. They move with logistics units.

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:35 pm

Nachmere wrote:Well it is a major issue regarding deployment of brothels in the modern battlefield

Yeah. Personally, I'm a fan of airlifting the brothels in pieces via. C-130 and airdropping the pieces one at a time.

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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:36 pm

Korva wrote:Tracked vs wheeled field brothels. Pros? Cons?

Tracked vehicles are generally good in muddy terrain by using the logic of ground pressure or whatever it was called.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:37 pm

I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:38 pm

The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

Canals take too long to build. Airdropping pieces via. C-130 for the troops to assemble is easier, and the brothel is also customizable.

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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:39 pm

The canal would be excavated with nuclear bombs.
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Postby Enso and Mu » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:39 pm

The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?


Project Plowshare would get that canal built expediently. Hypothetically.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:40 pm

The Kievan People wrote:The canal would be excavated with nuclear bombs.

Takes too long and the women most likely die of radiation poisoning, and the barge and everything touching it needs to be decontaminated.

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Postby The Corparation » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:40 pm

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Nachmere wrote:Well it is a major issue regarding deployment of brothels in the modern battlefield

Yeah. Personally, I'm a fan of airlifting the brothels in pieces via. C-130 and airdropping the pieces one at a time.

Or just have the C-130 be the Brothel. Actually seeing for the need for a modern army to deploy a field brothel anywhere, and noting that battlefields often lack airstrips, a QTR would probably be more optimal and Lulzier.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:42 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:Takes too long and the women most likely die of radiation poisoning, and the barge and everything touching it needs to be decontaminated.


Your brothels are not NBC hardened?
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:43 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Yeah. Personally, I'm a fan of airlifting the brothels in pieces via. C-130 and airdropping the pieces one at a time.

Or just have the C-130 be the Brothel. Actually seeing for the need for a modern army to deploy a field brothel anywhere, and noting that battlefields often lack airstrips, a QTR would probably be more optimal and Lulzier.

Ya know what? You're a genius, and I'm assigning you to the next brigade that goes to Azenyanistan or whatever that generic Middle Eastern country is called. You pilot the plane.

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:44 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Takes too long and the women most likely die of radiation poisoning, and the barge and everything touching it needs to be decontaminated.


Your brothels are not NBC hardened?

Considering he size of most military units nowadays the barge would be the size of the USS Iowa.

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:46 pm

Why must we have to transport the whole buildings? It's the people inside that matter, right? Ask any soldier and they'll tell you that, given the chance, they'd get busy anywhere. Just put 'em in trucks and bring them to the rear (pun intended). Why have this huge, logistically challenging method of bringing morale up, when you could just do the same thing you do with the troops themselves?

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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:47 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:The canal would be excavated with nuclear bombs.

Takes too long and the women most likely die of radiation poisoning, and the barge and everything touching it needs to be decontaminated.



Nuclear bomb excavation is not that dangerous.

And of course, it's pretty easy to make the barge NBC-proof.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:48 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:Why must we have to transport the whole buildings? It's the people inside that matter, right? Ask any soldier and they'll tell you that, given the chance, they'd get busy anywhere. Just put 'em in trucks and bring them to the rear (pun intended). Why have this huge, logistically challenging method of bringing morale up, when you could just do the same thing you do with the troops themselves?

Or we can design some sort of vehicle. And yea, judging from this copy of "All Quiet on the Western Front" I'm reading your statement is correct, they'd do it in a hospital bed, even.

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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:53 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:The canal would be excavated with nuclear bombs.

Takes too long and the women most likely die of radiation poisoning, and the barge and everything touching it needs to be decontaminated.

Nuclear bomb excavation is not that bad. ;)
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Postby Prekonate » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:55 pm

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Prekonate wrote:If NS roleplay is believed, it is possible to fire 1000+ surface-to-air missiles.

Yes, over several weeks of sustained fighting across a continental frontage.

Edited my post to clarify that I was referring to naval "missile spam" RPs.

To rephrase: "If NS roleplay is believed, it is possible to fire 1000+ surface-to-air missiles in naval battles. What are the technological (and other) obstacles to firing and guiding so many missiles from warships?"
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