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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:14 pm

Well I mean nobody likes their hull fracturing.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:16 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Well I mean nobody likes their hull fracturing.

? Also, I think we have agreed on the idea of constantly shipping troops back and forth to solve the brothel problem.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:19 pm

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Well I mean nobody likes their hull fracturing.

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Downsides to firing 1000+ guided missiles in a single naval engagement.
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Postby Palakistan » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:22 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Yes, over several weeks of sustained fighting across a continental frontage.

Edited my post to clarify that I was referring to naval "missile spam" RPs.

To rephrase: "If NS roleplay is believed, it is possible to fire 1000+ surface-to-air missiles in naval battles. What are the technological (and other) obstacles to firing and guiding so many missiles from warships?"

How many warships? Are we talking US size fleet?
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Postby Esgonia » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:37 pm

Korva wrote:Tracked vs wheeled field brothels. Pros? Cons?

Wheeled. It's more mobile compared to tracked.
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Postby Korva » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:50 pm

The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

This brings up a good point, the navy would require field brothels as well since they can't always go to port. So submersible brothels?

Or maybe mission module brothels so that any given ship can take on the role as needed?

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:51 pm

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The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

This brings up a good point, the navy would require field brothels as well since they can't always go to port. So submersible brothels?

Or maybe mission module brothels so that any given ship can take on the role as needed?

Rooms in the sub assigned for brothels?

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:56 pm

Korva wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

This brings up a good point, the navy would require field brothels as well since they can't always go to port. So submersible brothels?

Or maybe mission module brothels so that any given ship can take on the role as needed?

perhaps a unit is attached as "specialists", and they use the on-board hospital or quarters?

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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:57 pm

The sanest thing would be to have them on the tenders.

Naturally there should also be Navy Riverine Brothels.
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:58 pm

Korva wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

This brings up a good point, the navy would require field brothels as well since they can't always go to port. So submersible brothels?

Or maybe mission module brothels so that any given ship can take on the role as needed?

I vote mission modules. Allow Littoral Combat ships to pull their weight in a fleet.
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Postby Esgonia » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:01 pm

Korva wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:I was thinking of building a canal to the battlefield and bringing the brothel on a barge.

Thoughts?

This brings up a good point, the navy would require field brothels as well since they can't always go to port. So submersible brothels?

Or maybe mission module brothels so that any given ship can take on the role as needed?

Or assign them to a unit and give them some sort of quarters or something.
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Postby Padnak » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:08 pm

The Kievan People wrote:The canal would be excavated with nuclear bombs.


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Postby The Greater Aryan Race » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:16 pm

The Greater Aryan Race wrote:Concerning paratrooper artillery equipment, what would be a suitable artillery piece for my Fallschirmjäger divisions: The M777 or the British L118? What about the CAESAR artillery piece? I was considering whether I should incorporate the CAESAR as standard artillery for my Fallschirmjäger but the fact that the gun is sorta mounted on a truck does make it rather cumbersome and difficult to transport by plane (I've heard that CAESARs can be transported by C-130s but it's still not as convenient as helimobile and lighter gun pieces).


On another note, why the need for wheeled or tracked brothels? You can just have them stationed in the rear of the front next to your field hospitals or something like that and bring the girls (or guys) on trucks together with your supply and logistics train.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:19 pm

I thought that "wheeled brothel" implied a semitrailer truck with a container/trailer holding the actual Military Sex Workers?
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:21 pm

The Greater Aryan Race wrote:
The Greater Aryan Race wrote:Concerning paratrooper artillery equipment, what would be a suitable artillery piece for my Fallschirmjäger divisions: The M777 or the British L118? What about the CAESAR artillery piece? I was considering whether I should incorporate the CAESAR as standard artillery for my Fallschirmjäger but the fact that the gun is sorta mounted on a truck does make it rather cumbersome and difficult to transport by plane (I've heard that CAESARs can be transported by C-130s but it's still not as convenient as helimobile and lighter gun pieces).


On another note, why the need for wheeled or tracked brothels? You can just have them stationed in the rear of the front next to your field hospitals or something like that and bring the girls (or guys) on trucks together with your supply and logistics train.

That's what I said! But NOOOOoooo, they HAD to have their nuclear-dug canals and their air-dropped modular buildings!

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Postby The Greater Aryan Race » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:34 pm

Allanea wrote:I thought that "wheeled brothel" implied a semitrailer truck with a container/trailer holding the actual Military Sex Workers?

That was the impression that I got from the discussion, yes.

And on the perennial question regarding paratroopers and their artillery...
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:So, uh... Is this another one of those threads where everyone is supposed to feel outraged and circle-jerk in agreement of how injust and terrible the described incident is?

Because if it is, I'm probably going to say something mean and contrary just to contradict the majority.

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Postby Gallia- » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:59 pm

brothels increase rates of venereal disease without screening which isnt much more effective than just handing out condoms tbh

just recruit gays and promote spartanian homosex [hot?]

or recruit soldier-spergs instead of citizen-soldiers and promote asexuality and/or homosex [hot]

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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:03 pm

Venereal disease screening + mandatory condoms + not accepting anyone with VD into the armed forces (because why would you) would probably work well.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:19 pm

One would assume that your Military Sex Workers are less likely to have STDs than random civilian women in the Shithole Du Jour you're occupying.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:36 pm

So basically you're suggesting we should not have field brothels because they're not part of RL militaries?

You're really stretching this "military realism" thing a bit.
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:41 pm

no

im suggesting you not have them because it's an unnecessary duplication of something that already exists and there's no evidence that suggests it would perform better than simply issuing condoms and educating soldiers about venereal disease

it places an increased burden on medical corps personnel who are now not only responsible for general checking of soldiers for venereal disease, but also the brothels and their screening requirements, and preventing spread of venereal disease within the ranks

basically

it introduces the risk of internal spread of venereal disease between service members because it explicitly promotes fornication between serving soldiers

it offers no benefits over outsourcing said risk, which provides some protection because it compartmentalizes disease outbreaks to certain individuals rather than entire units

e: you could offset this by having prostitution platoons organic to a battalion or something, but that rapidly increases upkeep and medical expenditure + personnel for little benefit, since the same benefits can be found in private prostitutes which provide similar rapport/familiarity to local units, but can be "rotated" as soldiers come and go

it's easier to keep track of mama-san's debauchery den than it is to make sure private fillmore didnt give corporal smith gonorrhea or sth and finding out how many men she's fucked since then in the battalion(s) she's been wheeled around in
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Postby Nova Sylva » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:00 pm

Allanea wrote:So basically you're suggesting we should not have field brothels because they're not part of RL militaries?

You're really stretching this "military realism" thing a bit.


Your signature is just about all the evidence I need regarding your view towards "military realism."

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