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San-Silvacian
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9%
Purpelia
7
8%
Beno
10
11%
Puzikas
20
22%
Kouralia
5
5%
The Archangel Conglomerate:
8
9%
Immoren
4
4%
Premislyd
10
11%
Anemos Major
15
16%
The Akasha Colony
4
4%
 
Total votes : 91

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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:06 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:Then suddenly, something infantry-related was posted.


Guards mechanized infantry section (Revised; Present day)
Squad "A"
-Section leader (Sgt./Any derivative of Sgt.; TBK-022PM w/ 1.6x optic, basic infantry radio)
-GPMGer (Pvt./PFC.; Uk vz. 59L w/ 3.4x optic, 2 x 250 round belt)
-Ast. Rifleman (Spc..; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6x optic, 4 x 50 round belt)
-AT rifleman (Pvt./PFC.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6x optic, 2 x 50 round belt, RPG-22)
-DMRman (Pvt./PFC.; SVDS w/ 4.8x optic, 2 x 50 round belt)
Squad "B"
-Squad leader/Section SiC (Jr. Sgt.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6x optic)
-Grenadier (Pvt./PFC.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6 optic, 4 x 5.5 cm direct fire rifle grenades [HE])
-Grenadier (Pvt./PFC.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6 optic, 4 x 5.5 cm direct fire rifle grenades [HE])
-Rifleman (Pvt./PFC.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6 optic, 2 x 5.5 cm direct fire rifle grenades [HE])
-Rifleman (Pvt./PFC.; TKB-022PM w/ 1.6 optic, 2 x 5.5 cm direct fire rifle grenades [HE])



Also, I'm surprised none of you brought up that Denmark picked the M60E4 over the HK121 to replace their MG 3s.


What kind of silly person replaces their MG-3s at all, let alone with the M60?


Easier control when firing (550 rpm [M60E4] compared to ~1200 rpm [MG 3]), also easier to conserve ammo and better accuracy.
According to the Danish army website, the M60E4 was more reliable.
Also, the M60E4 is about 3 kg lighter than the MG3.
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Postby Immoren » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:09 pm

Coltarin wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
And your "cav" is wearing a Muppet on their head. The point?

Hakkapeliitta>Winged Polish Hussars>American cav> all others


Fixed. :P
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:11 pm

What the hell am I missing?
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:11 pm

Stop spamming shit about cavalry.

Premislyd wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
What kind of silly person replaces their MG-3s at all, let alone with the M60?


Easier control when firing (550 rpm [M60E4] compared to ~1200 rpm [MG 3]), also easier to conserve ammo and better accuracy.
According to the Danish army website, the M60E4 was more reliable.
Also, the M60E4 is about 3 kg lighter than the MG3.


Huh, I was always under the impression that the MG-3 was one of, if not the most reliable GPMG ever made. I thought they weighed around the same too.
I'm learnding.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:13 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.


A discussion is hardly "spamming"..

:roll:

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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:13 pm

Coltarin wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
And your "cav" is wearing a Muppet on their head. The point?

Winged Polish Hussars>American cav> all others


correction:

Image
Image
Image

Winged Polish Hussars> Brazilian buffalo-mounted cav > all others
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:14 pm

Infantry Question: So, who uses mounted (horse mounted) infantry (i.e. dragoons) in their military?

If you no longer use them, when did you stop?
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:14 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.


A discussion is hardly "spamming"..

:roll:


I could have a discussion about the possibility of life on Mars in this thread. It would still be spam.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Premislyd » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:18 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.

Premislyd wrote:
Easier control when firing (550 rpm [M60E4] compared to ~1200 rpm [MG 3]), also easier to conserve ammo and better accuracy.
According to the Danish army website, the M60E4 was more reliable.
Also, the M60E4 is about 3 kg lighter than the MG3.


Huh, I was always under the impression that the MG-3 was one of, if not the most reliable GPMG ever made. I thought they weighed around the same too.
I'm learnding.


It is. The competition was between the Hekler and Cock 121 and the M60E6 (which is basically an M60E4 with a different bipod and foregrip).

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.


A discussion is hardly "spamming"..

:roll:


"my country's cavalry is better than urs #british#fapfapfap#british>>>>everybodyelse#fapfap"
"nuh uh, u.s is better #'merica#ar15#fapfapfap#ar10#fap"

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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:18 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
A discussion is hardly "spamming"..

:roll:


I could have a discussion about the possibility of life on Mars in this thread. It would still be spam.


No, because the possibility of life on mars, unlike modern Cav, has nothing to do with "Infantry" Discussion.

Nice try though.
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:19 pm

Kouralia wrote:Infantry Question: So, who uses mounted (horse mounted) infantry (i.e. dragoons) in their military?

If you no longer use them, when did you stop?


the Divisões De Cavalaria (Cavalry divisions) are still used in the USBN, though their duty is more patrolling and aiding the police than actual combat. depending on the region, they may use horses or buffalos, the latter being preffered in the amazonic forest and northeastern semi-arid regions.

Premislyd wrote:
United states of brazilian nations wrote:
correction:

(Image)
(Image)
(Image)

Winged Polish Hussars> Brazilian buffalo-mounted cav > all others


This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.


brazilian buffalo-mounted spam is best spam.
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Graznovia wrote:Why does the dude look like Putin?
Did you knot know? There is no Russian people, only clones of Putin. We don't get names, just Numbers.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Kouralia wrote:AKA FiSH and CHiPS(Fighting in Someone's House and Causing Havoc in Public Spaces):p

Fordorsia wrote:Breaking news: The estimated leading cause of death is dying.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
Puzikas wrote:fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.
Puzikas wrote:USBN has a sensor that triggers after anything vaguely Brazilian is mentioned.
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Postby Bezombia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:20 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.

Premislyd wrote:
Easier control when firing (550 rpm [M60E4] compared to ~1200 rpm [MG 3]), also easier to conserve ammo and better accuracy.
According to the Danish army website, the M60E4 was more reliable.
Also, the M60E4 is about 3 kg lighter than the MG3.


Huh, I was always under the impression that the MG-3 was one of, if not the most reliable GPMG ever made. I thought they weighed around the same too.
I'm learnding.


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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:20 pm

Would there be a point in having cavalry as border patrol? Horses are better off road than vehicles, and the people would get off the horses to do stuff. Am I on to something here or have loads of people been doing it for ages?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:21 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:Would there be a point in having cavalry as border patrol? Horses are better off road than vehicles, and the people would get off the horses to do stuff. Am I on to something here or have loads of people been doing it for ages?


Yes actually, and the US has been doing it for quite some time now.

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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:21 pm

So, expedition Boberg turned out less-than perfect.

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Postby Premislyd » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:21 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:Would there be a point in having cavalry as border patrol? Horses are better off road than vehicles, and the people would get off the horses to do stuff. Am I on to something here or have loads of people been doing it for ages?


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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:23 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Bratislavskaya wrote:Would there be a point in having cavalry as border patrol? Horses are better off road than vehicles, and the people would get off the horses to do stuff. Am I on to something here or have loads of people been doing it for ages?


Yes actually, and the US has been doing it for quite some time now.

Well then, prepare for Bratislavskayan MVD cavalry then.
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:24 pm

*M60E6.

Also, stop fighting over who's stupid traditions make them look more silly.

Bezombia wrote:PKP


PK family. The PKP is a minor member of a very large family of GPMGs derived from a single system.
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:25 pm

Image

viking bear border patrol > all other mounts
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:27 pm

Gallia- wrote:(Image)

viking bear border patrol > all other mounts



Galla- wins this round.

No contest.
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:30 pm

Gallia- wrote:(Image)

viking bear border patrol > all other mounts

(Finds photo of zebra cavalry)
EDIT: Said that as a joke but I found this photo of the Germans in east Africa
Image
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Postby Sevvania » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:31 pm

Kouralia wrote:Infantry Question: So, who uses mounted (horse mounted) infantry (i.e. dragoons) in their military?

If you no longer use them, when did you stop?

I like to think that Sevvania had cavalry units up into World War II, although I'm not sure to what capacity they would have been used.
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Postby New Tsavon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:32 pm

Gallia- wrote:(Image)

viking bear border patrol > all other mounts

This owns.

Kouralia wrote:Infantry Question: So, who uses mounted (horse mounted) infantry (i.e. dragoons) in their military?

If you no longer use them, when did you stop?

Tsavon did, right into the Second World War. However, it was quickly realized that cavalry had little place on the modern battlefield, and most of the former cavalry units were turned into armored or mechanized units.

However, most of the colonies, especially Rhoderberg keep several Light Horse units, for various reasons.

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Huecalvary is now officially the best cavalry.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:33 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Stop spamming shit about cavalry.



Huh, I was always under the impression that the MG-3 was one of, if not the most reliable GPMG ever made. I thought they weighed around the same too.
I'm learnding.


It is. The competition was between the Hekler and Cock 121 and the M60E6 (which is basically an M60E4 with a different bipod and foregrip).

Expected the M60E6 to be tan. Googled it. Tan.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

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Postby Premislyd » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:34 pm

Premislyd wrote:It is. The competition was between the Hekler and Cock 121 and the M60E6 (which is basically an M60E4 with a different bipod and foregrip).


Puzikas wrote:*M60E6.


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