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Who will OP the next realism consolation thread?

The Akasha Colony
35
35%
The Kievan People
7
7%
New Vihenia
4
4%
Purpelia
5
5%
Samozaryadnyastan (Para)
28
28%
Transnapastain
13
13%
Lamoni
9
9%
 
Total votes : 101

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Postby Strykla » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:08 pm

Faroslan wrote:
Strykla wrote:Dazzlers only work against missiles that have seeker heads. Most AShMs don't.

As for laser CIWS, well, that is quite a ways off. To see what happens when a carrier battle group is spammed with missiles, see Tom Clancy's excellent novel Red Storm Rising.

I loved that book one of my favorites, a tip of the hat to you sir.

Yeah, I love Clancy. Sometimes it's fun enough that I forget about how much I'm learning.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:10 pm

Strykla wrote:
Faroslan wrote:I loved that book one of my favorites, a tip of the hat to you sir.

Yeah, I love Clancy. Sometimes it's fun enough that I forget about how much I'm learning.


Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.
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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:11 pm

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Hellraiser-Army wrote:
My point exactly

And if AS missiles aren't locked on... how can they NOT be blown up by Anti Missile defences?

And really? REALLY? When I try to explain to you HOW it would work, no one listens!

Im still using it. GL calling it god mode.


Go look at Lyran Arms' Longsword. That's a ship considered by some in this thread to be pushing the boundaries of reality to their limits. It is, however, technically possible.

Your ships? Completely different story. If they don't sink under their own weight or topple over, you won't have the room to fit everything you want. The very knowledgeable members of this thread are trying to point this out to you, but you aren't listening.


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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:11 pm

Strykla wrote:
Faroslan wrote:I loved that book one of my favorites, a tip of the hat to you sir.

Yeah, I love Clancy. Sometimes it's fun enough that I forget about how much I'm learning.

In short, what DID happen?

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:12 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Strykla wrote:Yeah, I love Clancy. Sometimes it's fun enough that I forget about how much I'm learning.


Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.


Fuck that They are very good books.
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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:13 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.


I disagree with you, my good man! They are very good books.


Fixed.
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:13 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.


Fuck that They are very good books.

Just as long as you don't consider them a viable source on military tactics and strategy.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:14 pm

Imperial Arcand wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
I disagree with you, my good man! They are very good books.


Fixed.


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[violet] wrote:Urggg... trawling through ads looking for roman orgies...

Idaho Conservatives wrote:FST creates a half-assed thread, goes on his same old feminist rant, and it turns into a thirty page dogpile in under twenty four hours. Just another day on NSG.

Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
Yes, I Am infact Biop.


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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:14 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Fuck that They are very good books.

Just as long as you don't consider them a viable source on military tactics and strategy.


Fair enough.
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[violet] wrote:Urggg... trawling through ads looking for roman orgies...

Idaho Conservatives wrote:FST creates a half-assed thread, goes on his same old feminist rant, and it turns into a thirty page dogpile in under twenty four hours. Just another day on NSG.

Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
Yes, I Am infact Biop.


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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:15 pm

Also, I still wanna know whether having a larger operations budget compared to maintenance is normal.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:17 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.


Fuck that They are very good books.


Can't say that I remember them all that well. I keep meaning to find my old copies, but there are always new books to read :p .

I do remember Sumer making a comment that Clancy doesn't attend proper military conferences because he'd be laughed out, though.
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:21 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Also, I still wanna know whether having a larger operations budget compared to maintenance is normal.

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Postby Strykla » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:23 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Strykla wrote:Yeah, I love Clancy. Sometimes it's fun enough that I forget about how much I'm learning.


Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.

Hey, they can say whatever the fuck they want; it's not going to make me like, or trust, Clancy any less.
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Postby Faroslan » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:26 pm

The Corparation wrote:Just as long as you don't consider them a viable source on military tactics and strategy.

If you insist *hides the copy of The Bear and The Dragon under the sofa seat*

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:28 pm

Strykla wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Cue the NSD veterans talking about how unrealistic and bullshitty Clancy is.

Hey, they can say whatever the fuck they want; it's not going to make me like, or trust, Clancy any less.


Sumer = one of those who would be invited to such an event.

Actually, the distrust of Clancy is also strong on Tanknet, possibly due to a large number of rookie errors in his tank books.
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Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:28 pm

Imperial Arcand wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Also, I still wanna know whether having a larger operations budget compared to maintenance is normal.



I don't have insurance :(
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:29 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:I don't have insurance :(

I don't drive. Beat that.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:29 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:I don't have insurance :(

I don't drive. Beat that.


No car, no insurance :P
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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:30 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:I don't have insurance :(

So you have to pay for a replacement fleet/army/air force yourself?
HAHAHAH- . . wait, I guess you save a bunch on Premiums then.
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:30 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I don't drive. Beat that.


No car, no insurance :P

Say, would you happen to have a folder somewhere with all of your previous flags? I don't know if I managed to catch them all.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:31 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I don't drive. Beat that.


No car, no insurance :P

I have a car and insurance.

NOW GET OFF THE ROAD, PEASANTS! :twisted:
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:31 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
No car, no insurance :P

Say, would you happen to have a folder somewhere with all of your previous flags? I don't know if I managed to catch them all.

I get how that is. Should of stocked up on Ultraballs at the last store. One can only learn this lesson from experience.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:34 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Strykla wrote:Hey, they can say whatever the fuck they want; it's not going to make me like, or trust, Clancy any less.


Sumer = one of those who would be invited to such an event.

Actually, the distrust of Clancy is also strong on Tanknet, possibly due to a large number of rookie errors in his tank books.


Honestly depends on the book. Earlier he shows a pretty good understanding tactics, technology and other things. Later works not so much. Might have to do with the fact that he stopped writing them and handed his name of to other people.
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Postby Imperial Arcand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:34 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Say, would you happen to have a folder somewhere with all of your previous flags? I don't know if I managed to catch them all.

I get how that is. Should of stocked up on Ultraballs at the last store. One can only learn this lesson from experience.

And some of us have to start learning from scratch . .
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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:38 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
No car, no insurance :P

Say, would you happen to have a folder somewhere with all of your previous flags? I don't know if I managed to catch them all.


I do, actually.

Imperial Arcand wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
No car, no insurance :P

I have a car and insurance.

NOW GET OFF THE ROAD, PEASANTS! :twisted:


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