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Postby Mushet » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:29 pm

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Mushet wrote:Is there anybody actually saying that their sexuality is their sole defining aspect? I can see some that it's so integral they make it a primary one but doubt there's any that are saying "All I am is a homosexual"


Yes, there are people like that. I've met a few. Here in NSG? I can't say.

And you're certain you're not exaggerating :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:30 pm

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Pretty much. Your X or Y sexual preference. But you're also so much more so why limit it.


It's like, I'm barely bisexual, but if I identify as only being bisexual, it does an injustice to the bigger picture...
I'm an Aspie that enjoys sports, humor, music, food, religion and politics, and by limiting myself to "I'm bisexual" or any other of those things, I can't communicate any of my other traits.


And even the Aspie thing is not a definition. You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
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Postby Esen » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:30 pm

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Esen wrote:At least you don't have some cross between Singlish and Quebecois English accent. Trust me. I sound like a dying goat. And no, there was no bestiality involved. And I feel like my sympathies were eaten by a monster.

No, I merely stole them so I could reuse them at some useful point.

Like now.

My sympathies. Having heard my speaking recorded a few times, I know how horrid it is to have a horrible accent.

You cruel thing :c

I can speak Japanese pretty fine with almost no foreign accent. Same with Spanish.

English or French? Haha nope try again.

And what is a generic Western European accent?
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Postby Mollary » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:30 pm

I class myself simply as confused; is that a thing?
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

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Arglorand wrote:No, I merely stole them so I could reuse them at some useful point.

Like now.

My sympathies. Having heard my speaking recorded a few times, I know how horrid it is to have a horrible accent.

You cruel thing :c

I can speak Japanese pretty fine with almost no foreign accent. Same with Spanish.

English or French? Haha nope try again.

And what is a generic Western European accent?

It's, like, a really, really mild Dutch or German or something accent.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

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I guess that for me, since I grew up seeing homosexuality as normal, it doesn't factor in. Yes, this person likes people of the same sex. However, he or she is more than just that aspect to me.

I'm not saying it isn't positive to identify. I hope it didn't come across that way. I just wonder why some people use their sexuality as their sole defining aspect.


I understand where you're coming from. Not so much that labelling exists, but that so much emphasis is put on it in terms on ones identity. I don't place a great deal of importance on it, and neither do my friends. Gay, straight, bisexual, it changes nothing about how I feel about them or vice versa, so I've never seen it as relevant.

However, some people do use their sexuality as a statement. but that's entirely up to them.

I don't speak much about my sexuality as it means little when one isn't in the market for a relationship.
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Mollary wrote:I class myself simply as confused; is that a thing?


Oh, definitely. Been there. :)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Lordieth wrote:
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I guess that for me, since I grew up seeing homosexuality as normal, it doesn't factor in. Yes, this person likes people of the same sex. However, he or she is more than just that aspect to me.

I'm not saying it isn't positive to identify. I hope it didn't come across that way. I just wonder why some people use their sexuality as their sole defining aspect.


I understand where you're coming from. Not so much that labelling exists, but that so much emphasis is put on it in terms on ones identity. I don't place a great deal of importance on it, and neither do my friends. Gay, straight, bisexual, it changes nothing about how I feel about them or vice versa, so I've never seen it as relevant.

However, some people do use their sexuality as a statement. but that's entirely up to them.


I'm aware and if that's what they wish to do, fine. They're making a statement. I just wonder, you see.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
It's like, I'm barely bisexual, but if I identify as only being bisexual, it does an injustice to the bigger picture...
I'm an Aspie that enjoys sports, humor, music, food, religion and politics, and by limiting myself to "I'm bisexual" or any other of those things, I can't communicate any of my other traits.


And even the Aspie thing is not a definition. You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)

I don't know if that is extremely profound or extremely sappy. Or both.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

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Point made. :lol:

Ha! That's awesome. :D
Me and my buddy might have had one of those moments last night. :unsure:


Hey, that's cool. It worked for me and my friend because it wasn't an emotional thing, it was just two friends having fun. It didn't feel wierd or anything. In the end it turned out just to be a curiosity for him, so that was that, but we remained the same good friends were before, which I think is a rare thing.


That's a good outcome then. :)

With me, I've been well... rather curious about one thing, and did it last night, and that my buddy enjoyed it, made me more at ease, and enjoy the moment as just two friends chilling out and enjoying time together.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Mollary wrote:I class myself simply as confused; is that a thing?

If you class yourself as something, then it usually is a thing, yeah.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Mushet wrote:
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Yes, there are people like that. I've met a few. Here in NSG? I can't say.

And you're certain you're not exaggerating :p


I am certain.
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Postby Esen » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Esen wrote:You cruel thing :c

I can speak Japanese pretty fine with almost no foreign accent. Same with Spanish.

English or French? Haha nope try again.

And what is a generic Western European accent?

It's, like, a really, really mild Dutch or German or something accent.

Ooh. That's cool.
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Postby Esen » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Gallup wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And even the Aspie thing is not a definition. You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)

I don't know if that is extremely profound or extremely sappy. Or both.

Nah, you are just cold.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Gallup wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And even the Aspie thing is not a definition. You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)

I don't know if that is extremely profound or extremely sappy. Or both.


Take it as you will. It makes no difference to me.
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Postby Mollary » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm

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Mollary wrote:I class myself simply as confused; is that a thing?


Oh, definitely. Been there. :)

What did it take for you to find out what you would classify yourself as?
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Postby Mushet » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:And you're certain you're not exaggerating :p


I am certain.

I don't see it, I think they may have been using it as a primary identifier but seriously thinking that all they are is a homosexual individual just seems exaggerated.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:35 pm

Mushet wrote:
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I am certain.

I don't see it, I think they may have been using it as a primary identifier but seriously thinking that all they are is a homosexual individual just seems exaggerated.


Do you move much into gay circles?
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:35 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I understand where you're coming from. Not so much that labelling exists, but that so much emphasis is put on it in terms on ones identity. I don't place a great deal of importance on it, and neither do my friends. Gay, straight, bisexual, it changes nothing about how I feel about them or vice versa, so I've never seen it as relevant.

However, some people do use their sexuality as a statement. but that's entirely up to them.


I'm aware and if that's what they wish to do, fine. They're making a statement. I just wonder, you see.


I suppose once you have groups, you have something to identify with, and for some people that's their sexuality. Maybe it helps some people cope with being who they are? I can't pretend to understand it, but I certainly don't begrudge anyone if that's the way they chose to live their life. Maybe it's just for the comfort of being able to identify yourself with like-
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However, some people do use their sexuality as a statement. but that's entirely up to them.

I don't speak much about my sexuality as it means little when one isn't in the market for a relationship.
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Well, I wouldn't say I'm on the market for a relationship either, so I rarely bring it up unless it comes up in conversation. I can be a terrible flirt though. In that sense sometimes it helps to know.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:37 pm

Lordieth wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I'm aware and if that's what they wish to do, fine. They're making a statement. I just wonder, you see.


I suppose once you have groups, you have something to identify with, and for some people that's their sexuality. Maybe it helps some people cope with being who they are? I can't pretend to understand it, but I certainly don't begrudge anyone if that's the way they chose to live their life. Maybe it's just for the comfort of being able to identify yourself with like-
The Serbian Empire wrote:I don't speak much about my sexuality as it means little when one isn't in the market for a relationship.
minded people.

Well, I wouldn't say I'm on the market for a relationship either, so I rarely bring it up unless it comes up in conversation. I can be a terrible flirt though. In that sense sometimes it helps to know.


I understand comfort in being around others like you. It's the ones who become a walking label who make me wonder.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
It's like, I'm barely bisexual, but if I identify as only being bisexual, it does an injustice to the bigger picture...
I'm an Aspie that enjoys sports, humor, music, food, religion and politics, and by limiting myself to "I'm bisexual" or any other of those things, I can't communicate any of my other traits.


And even the Aspie thing is not a definition. You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)


I like that.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:I don't see it, I think they may have been using it as a primary identifier but seriously thinking that all they are is a homosexual individual just seems exaggerated.


Do you move much into gay circles?

Can't say I do, I'm familiar with identity politics in other communities and I see a lot of primary identification, but sole identification like not having any other means of identification other than that seems like an exaggeration to me.
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:39 pm

Mollary wrote:
Lordieth wrote:
Oh, definitely. Been there. :)

What did it take for you to find out what you would classify yourself as?


That's a difficult question. Every person is going to be different. For me, I got talking to a couple of people who felt the way I did, and it helped me to explore those feelings. Sometimes it was as simple as asking questions, and eventually you either explore those feelings, or you don't. I suppose you could say it was a strong curiosity for a while. It took longer to decide how I felt, but even then I still don't feel like I strongly classify with a particular label. Bisexual is the best description, but "it depends" is a bit more apt.

Every person's situation is going to be unique, and it's never an easy thing to figure out. Most people eventually get there, though.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Mushet wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Do you move much into gay circles?

Can't say I do, I'm familiar with identity politics in other communities and I see a lot of primary identification, but sole identification like not having any other means of identification other than that seems like an exaggeration to me.


And yet some people do it. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. :)
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