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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:22 pm

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Taxing people could be said to be necessary for a complete economic recovery.

Of course, that depends on how much.


With the high unemployment we have, and the damage he did the the rainy day fund our state had, you've have to tax all the wage earners at 85% to get out of this hole.


Massachusetts will come out of this just fine. Taxes on all levels should remain at the same marginal rates for wage earners, should be raised on capital gains, and should be extremely heightened for large corporations, while the gains there should be lowered for smaller business owners.

From there, we simply rely on credit and let the growth of the economy fill the budget naturally.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:22 pm

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Then we won't be digging out of it for a decade...


Did you just advocate high taxation?


It would appear so, but that was more a comment on the current policies of those in office up here.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:23 pm

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Astrolinium wrote:
Did you just advocate high taxation?


It would appear so, but that was more a comment on the current policies of those in office up here.


Who the fuck are you?
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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:25 pm

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Indeed we do.

Hmm. I think I should run for governor one day... Under my own party, of course.


Can't do worse than Mitt and Deval.
You have my vote.

Thanks!

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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:26 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
With the high unemployment we have, and the damage he did the the rainy day fund our state had, you've have to tax all the wage earners at 85% to get out of this hole.


Massachusetts will come out of this just fine. Taxes on all levels should remain at the same marginal rates for wage earners, should be raised on capital gains, and should be extremely heightened for large corporations, while the gains there should be lowered for smaller business owners.

From there, we simply rely on credit and let the growth of the economy fill the budget naturally.


I admire the optimism.

As far as the policies, I disagree with drastically increasing taxes on corporations, but do support a small hike... and a small hike in capital gains taxes... I'd say I like about half that plan. Not a bad start.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:26 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
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It would appear so, but that was more a comment on the current policies of those in office up here.


Who the fuck are you?

I don't know, we should kill him fast, or at the very least torture him to learn the location and helaht of the real CC.
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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:27 pm

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To Wiki!

So kinda like déjà vu. Cool.

Also, I tied you up to a railroad ;)
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:27 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Can't do worse than Mitt and Deval.
You have my vote.

Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


I myself wouldn't go under any party. I would be an independent, not running under any political card but my own personal beliefs.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:28 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
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Massachusetts will come out of this just fine. Taxes on all levels should remain at the same marginal rates for wage earners, should be raised on capital gains, and should be extremely heightened for large corporations, while the gains there should be lowered for smaller business owners.

From there, we simply rely on credit and let the growth of the economy fill the budget naturally.


I admire the optimism.

As far as the policies, I disagree with drastically increasing taxes on corporations, but do support a small hike... and a small hike in capital gains taxes... I'd say I like about half that plan. Not a bad start.


When I say extremely, I mean that in the context of policy. Most corporations which make tens of millions or higher have negligible marginal rates. I support drawing around 20% of their operating profits and using the windfall from that to lower taxes on smaller businesses. As for capital gains, I support raising it to about 35%, which is in line with average income tax for wage earners.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:28 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
It would appear so, but that was more a comment on the current policies of those in office up here.


Who the fuck are you?


:lol:

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Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Who the fuck are you?

I don't know, we should kill him fast, or at the very least torture him to learn the location and helaht of the real CC.


:?
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:29 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Who the fuck are you?


:lol:

The Corparation wrote:I don't know, we should kill him fast, or at the very least torture him to learn the location and helaht of the real CC.


:?


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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:30 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
Yuktova wrote:Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


I myself wouldn't go under any party. I would be an independent, not running under any political card but my own personal beliefs.

That's what the Scientific Party is. It doesn't exist...yet...
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Postby Norstal » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:31 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Massachusetts will come out of this just fine. Taxes on all levels should remain at the same marginal rates for wage earners, should be raised on capital gains, and should be extremely heightened for large corporations, while the gains there should be lowered for smaller business owners.

From there, we simply rely on credit and let the growth of the economy fill the budget naturally.


I admire the optimism.

As far as the policies, I disagree with drastically increasing taxes on corporations, but do support a small hike... and a small hike in capital gains taxes... I'd say I like about half that plan. Not a bad start.

Something I noticed: increasing taxes on corporations on a state-level seems to drive them away. Increasing taxes on corporations on a national-level won't do much.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Can't do worse than Mitt and Deval.
You have my vote.

Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


As long as you don't raise taxes, count me in.
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
I myself wouldn't go under any party. I would be an independent, not running under any political card but my own personal beliefs.

That's what the Scientific Party is. It doesn't exist...yet...


Eh, I prefer running on my own accord. I would trust no one as I strive to achieve my ultimate goal: the position as ruler of America.
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Postby Wazkyraque » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Yuktova wrote:So kinda like déjà vu. Cool.

Also, I tied you up to a railroad ;)


When did this happen? :b
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Norstal wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I admire the optimism.

As far as the policies, I disagree with drastically increasing taxes on corporations, but do support a small hike... and a small hike in capital gains taxes... I'd say I like about half that plan. Not a bad start.

Something I noticed: increasing taxes on corporations on a state-level seems to drive them away. Increasing taxes on corporations on a national-level won't do much.


That's one reason why the South isn't hurting quite as bad as the rest of us.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Yuktova wrote:Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


As long as you don't raise taxes, count me in.


Alright, I want liberal Cakes back now.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:32 pm

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Yuktova wrote:Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


As long as you don't raise taxes, count me in.


Nice try, but you'll have to be more convincing than that.
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Yuktova wrote:That's what the Scientific Party is. It doesn't exist...yet...


Eh, I prefer running on my own accord. I would trust no one as I strive to achieve my ultimate goal: the position as ruler of America.

You're ginna tunnel all the funding to superscience to bring back the dinosaurs
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:33 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
:lol:



:?


Give us back our only conservative friend, you liberal bastard!


I'm libertarian, not conservative, and not liberal. D:
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:34 pm

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Give us back our only conservative friend, you liberal bastard!


I'm libertarian, not conservative, and not liberal. D:


You're more conservative than the average centrist.
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:35 pm

Mushet wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
Eh, I prefer running on my own accord. I would trust no one as I strive to achieve my ultimate goal: the position as ruler of America.

You're ginna tunnel all the funding to superscience to bring back the dinosaurs


Well, that's one of my goals upon becoming dictator, yes. :P
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