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Postby Katganistan » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:10 pm

Sagatagan wrote:Quite possibly, but I hear Guillermo del Toro is working on a remedy.

Guillermo del Toro? Then it will be worth a look.

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Postby Geniasis » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:16 pm

Demen wrote:The original idea was that vampires die when they smell garlic. I don't give a flying fuck what the modern shit is.


No, garlic would ward them off, not kill them. Keep your modern pussification out of my tradition, thanks.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:39 pm

Mediterreania wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Imhotep would like a word with you...

Max Brooks and George Romero would like to have a word with the non-zombie "undead."
Zombies are overrated. Half the time they "Win" is because for some reason no one has ever heard of zombies before in the movies.
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Postby Mediterreania » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:57 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:Max Brooks and George Romero would like to have a word with the non-zombie "undead."
Zombies are overrated. Half the time they "Win" is because for some reason no one has ever heard of zombies before in the movies.

GASP!
Zombies are just badass. All it takes is one bite.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:17 am

Mediterreania wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote: Zombies are overrated. Half the time they "Win" is because for some reason no one has ever heard of zombies before in the movies.

GASP!
Zombies are just badass. All it takes is one bite.
And why would you be stupid enough to get within range of said bite?

And can't vampires also do the same?
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Postby Iron Chariots » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:35 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:GASP!
Zombies are just badass. All it takes is one bite.
And why would you be stupid enough to get within range of said bite?

And can't vampires also do the same?

Actually a lot of vampire fiction requires some sort of blood mixing ritual to actually turn somebody into a vampire, the bite alone is not typically enough.
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:44 am

Iron Chariots wrote:Actually a lot of vampire fiction requires some sort of blood mixing ritual to actually turn somebody into a vampire, the bite alone is not typically enough.


Which is fair, since vampires are overpowered enough.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby New Amerik » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 am

Mediterreania wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Imhotep would like a word with you...

Max Brooks and George Romero would like to have a word with the non-zombie "undead."


The Haitans would like to have word with Max Brooks and Romero about non-living "zombies".
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:52 am

New Amerik wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:Max Brooks and George Romero would like to have a word with the non-zombie "undead."


The Haitans would like to have word with Max Brooks and Romero about non-living "zombies".


Merriam-Webster would like everyone to just cut this shit out and stop bitching.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Mediterreania » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:05 pm

New Amerik wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:Max Brooks and George Romero would like to have a word with the non-zombie "undead."


The Haitans would like to have word with Max Brooks and Romero about non-living "zombies".

There's actually a whole passage in Max Brook's book about why Haitian voodoo zombies are different from viral zombies.
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Postby Mediterreania » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:11 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:GASP!
Zombies are just badass. All it takes is one bite.
And why would you be stupid enough to get within range of said bite?

Most people don't understand the zombie disease until it's too late. Most of the infected are seen as either insane or rabid. In World War Z, black market organ transplants *shudder* also transmit the disease. And of course, you can be trapped in an angry mob of zombies.

Read "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:46 pm

Mediterreania wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:And why would you be stupid enough to get within range of said bite?

Most people don't understand the zombie disease until it's too late. Most of the infected are seen as either insane or rabid.
Hey don't understimate rabies, a large global rabies outbreak would be just as bad as any zombie outbreak.

Rabies isn't much better than a zombie virus in an area without a cure. A full blown rabid human supposedly can't feel pain because of the brain damage, and they infect by bite, basically until they bleed, shut down due to their bloody mess of a heart missing, or you get a headshot... They will keep coming at you.

Mediterreania wrote:In World War Z, black market organ transplants *shudder* also transmit the disease.
Because everyone takes black market organs. To compare again, donated Vampire blood. More people get blood than they do get organ transplants.

Mediterreania wrote:And of course, you can be trapped in an angry mob of zombies.
Being trapped by a mob of ANYTHING is bad. Zombies aren't the only group that can cause that to be a bad thing.

Mediterreania wrote:Read "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks.
Isn't that a satire of zombie books though?
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:07 pm

Sounds more like a deconstruction, from what I've heard.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Servantium » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:20 pm

Hate to burst the zombie bubble, but this is pretty much how things would go:

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Postby Laerod » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:32 am

Servantium wrote:Hate to burst the zombie bubble, but this is pretty much how things would go:

Good zombie movies are really about the people and not the zombies anyway.

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Postby Geniasis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:33 am

Laerod wrote:
Servantium wrote:Hate to burst the zombie bubble, but this is pretty much how things would go:

Good zombie movies are really about the people and not the zombies anyway.


This. Hell, even in 28 Days Later where the zombies were just better than people in every way, the real enemy was the military people.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Dewhurst-Narculis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:36 am

I saw the "Let me in"trailer so maybe little girl vampires are the future :shock:
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:38 am

Dewhurst-Narculis wrote:I saw the "Let me in"trailer so maybe little girl vampires are the future :shock:
Lol, that would be a funny one, some person kidnaps a kid... said kid eats him.
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Postby Doitzel » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:57 am

Dewhurst-Narculis wrote:I saw the "Let me in"trailer so maybe little girl vampires are the future :shock:

That movie is not about vampires, it just happens to have a vampire as a central character.

The last good vampire movie was Interview With a Vampire... True Blood is a decent defence against the forward march of the Twilight brigade but it's fighting a losing battle I think. Who'd have thought it'd be bad authors and teenie-boppers that brought the downfall of vampires?
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:17 am

Doitzel wrote:That movie is not about vampires, it just happens to have a vampire as a central character.

The last good vampire movie was Interview With a Vampire... True Blood is a decent defence against the forward march of the Twilight brigade but it's fighting a losing battle I think. Who'd have thought it'd be bad authors and teenie-boppers that brought the downfall of vampires?


When you realize that the Visgoths were really just a bunch of hipsters, you begin to notice a troubling pattern in ancient history.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:36 am

Geniasis wrote:
Doitzel wrote:That movie is not about vampires, it just happens to have a vampire as a central character.

The last good vampire movie was Interview With a Vampire... True Blood is a decent defence against the forward march of the Twilight brigade but it's fighting a losing battle I think. Who'd have thought it'd be bad authors and teenie-boppers that brought the downfall of vampires?


When you realize that the Visgoths were really just a bunch of hipsters, you begin to notice a troubling pattern in ancient history.

The Visigoths might have been just misunderstood youths, like that motorcycle club in that early Brando movie, you know. Or, no, I know, they were re-enacters! Yeah, that's it, they were re-enacting the invasion of Europe by Indo-European peoples. The Imperial authorities didn't understand that and there were, one does have to admit, quite a lot of Visigoths, so ... it didn't end well.
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Postby Fancy Gourmets » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:53 am

Hmm, not really.
Or maybe, but they might see a recovery if CCPs (Crowd Control Productions, or 'the guys who made EVE) new World of Darkness becomes popular enough.

I like these World of Darkness vampires, and the trailer certainly has the feel of a WoD game.
Vampire: The Masquerade too, so hopefully we'll get some Tzimice fleshcrafters (They do what they are called, craft living flesh into various things and demons) in it.

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Postby Geniasis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:43 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The Visigoths might have been just misunderstood youths, like that motorcycle club in that early Brando movie, you know. Or, no, I know, they were re-enacters! Yeah, that's it, they were re-enacting the invasion of Europe by Indo-European peoples. The Imperial authorities didn't understand that and there were, one does have to admit, quite a lot of Visigoths, so ... it didn't end well.


Things... things just got a little out of hand.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Mediterreania » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:03 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Mediterreania wrote:Most people don't understand the zombie disease until it's too late. Most of the infected are seen as either insane or rabid.
Hey don't understimate rabies, a large global rabies outbreak would be just as bad as any zombie outbreak.

Rabies isn't much better than a zombie virus in an area without a cure. A full blown rabid human supposedly can't feel pain because of the brain damage, and they infect by bite, basically until they bleed, shut down due to their bloody mess of a heart missing, or you get a headshot... They will keep coming at you.

Like a zombie? :p

Mediterreania wrote:In World War Z, black market organ transplants *shudder* also transmit the disease.
Because everyone takes black market organs. To compare again, donated Vampire blood. More people get blood than they do get organ transplants.

Just saying, there are many vectors other than bites.

Mediterreania wrote:And of course, you can be trapped in an angry mob of zombies.
Being trapped by a mob of ANYTHING is bad. Zombies aren't the only group that can cause that to be a bad thing.

Yes, but a mob of humans can't infect you with a deadly virus.

Mediterreania wrote:Read "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks.
Isn't that a satire of zombie books though?
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You could put it that way. In my opinion, it was more about human stupidity.
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Postby Mediterreania » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:09 pm

Servantium wrote:Hate to burst the zombie bubble, but this is pretty much how things would go:

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Just read...you guessed it! World War Z!
Human stupidity causes the spread of the virus. In the novel, the Chinese discover the zombie virus from some old World War II bio-warfare experiments, and then accidentally spread it through the peasants (in 2008).
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