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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:38 pm

they should levitate and also they should dispense cola if you grab them by the nose
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Postby Kalaron » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:39 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:they should levitate and also they should dispense cola if you grab them by the nose

OK but you aren't going to like where the Cola comes from.

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Postby BLACKGRUE » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:41 pm

All employees who are forced to stay in one position for excessive amounts of time should be allowed to sit. I have autism-derived sensory stuff, if I can't walk around my body aches all over but I can sit for as long as I need to.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:41 pm

Kalaron wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:they should levitate and also they should dispense cola if you grab them by the nose

OK but you aren't going to like where the Cola comes from.


oh no not pepsi
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:44 pm

Kernen wrote:The bigger question is whether hotel employees should be allowed to leave. I say they should allowed to check out any time they want but they can never leave.

Only at the hotel California
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Postby Saiwana » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:59 pm

A chair makes it more likely someone will fall asleep. I'm not sure because they obviously have to be physically present to check people in and out of the hotel but there might also be days where nothing happens and it's a waste of everyone's time.

They could perhaps have a internet terminal they can pay their own bandwidth for but there should be a brief ding or alarm for if someone is approaching the desk and needs service. They're supposed to answer calls or get people in and out or to their rooms but actually make sure the people pay up or are billed for what is used.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:00 pm

Saiwana wrote:A chair makes it more likely someone will fall asleep. I'm not sure because they obviously have to be physically present to check people in and out of the hotel but there might also be days where nothing happens and it's a waste of everyone's time.

They could perhaps have a internet terminal they can pay their own bandwidth for but there should be a brief ding or alarm for if someone is approaching the desk and needs service. They're supposed to answer calls or get people in and out or to their rooms but actually make sure the people pay up or are billed for what is used.


How does it make it more likely they will fall asleep?

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Postby Ineva » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:06 pm

Kalaron wrote:
Kostane wrote:Mostly because they would have to stand up to interact with guests. The desks they sit behind are so tall, that you would essentially walk into the hotel and be greeted by an empty desk until they stood up.

Tall chairs exist.

And so, the quest for a viable counter-argument against requestable chairs continues.
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Postby Ineva » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:07 pm

Saiwana wrote:A chair makes it more likely someone will fall asleep. I'm not sure because they obviously have to be physically present to check people in and out of the hotel but there might also be days where nothing happens and it's a waste of everyone's time.

They could perhaps have a internet terminal they can pay their own bandwidth for but there should be a brief ding or alarm for if someone is approaching the desk and needs service. They're supposed to answer calls or get people in and out or to their rooms but actually make sure the people pay up or are billed for what is used.

The sleep reason seems a little silly to me. Students are also more likely to fall asleep at desks, but we don't see them standing very often.
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Postby Almighty Biden » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:25 pm

Ngl i clicked on this expecting satire but no it's dead serious.

Still though, the question isn't should they be allowed to sit, but rather should they be made to stand.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:26 pm

Almighty Biden wrote:Ngl i clicked on this expecting satire but no it's dead serious.

Still though, the question isn't should they be allowed to sit, but rather should they be made to stand.


You think that would be better title?

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Postby United States 2026 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:29 pm

Kernen wrote:The bigger question is whether hotel employees should be allowed to leave. I say they should allowed to check out any time they want but they can never leave.


As long as any time of year, I can find it here.

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Postby Fractalnavel » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:32 pm

You know, there's been a trend the other way in recent years (for some definition of 'recent') for workers who normally sit to get convertible stand-up desks and higher chairs, etc. In other words, working posture has become a choice.

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Postby Adharcaili » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:33 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:they should levitate and also they should dispense cola if you grab them by the nose

They should change drinks based on the time. Juice (your choice): 6-11 AM, Cola: 12-5 PM, Alcohol (Your choice): 6 PM-5 AM
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:42 pm

Fractalnavel wrote:You know, there's been a trend the other way in recent years (for some definition of 'recent') for workers who normally sit to get convertible stand-up desks and higher chairs, etc. In other words, working posture has become a choice.


That is what I want. if the people at the desk want to stand, then they can stand, if not a chair should be provided so they can sit.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:A few months ago I stayed at a hotel where the front desk employees sat on chairs at the front desk. It was the first time i've ever seen this at any hotel. it got me thinking. Why don't more hotels do this? Standing for several hours a day isn't healthy but sitting isn't either.

Some hotels might say it's unprofessional but I don't see how. You can put chairs at the desk for the guests or require your front desk people to stand when a guest comes to the desk.

I don't see it as unprofessional to allow Front Desk employees to sit down and would likely make these jobs easier to retain employees. It would be a benefit.

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Postby Almighty Biden » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Almighty Biden wrote:Ngl i clicked on this expecting satire but no it's dead serious.

Still though, the question isn't should they be allowed to sit, but rather should they be made to stand.


You think that would be better title?

No i was trying to make a "deep philosophy" joke by reversing the question
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Postby Herador » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:11 pm

I don't get this thought process of "standing=productive/professional". When I worked for Costco as an Optician one of the apparently most contentious debates in our region was if we should be allowed to sit or not when we weren't with customers. The rational for standing typically came down to "old man yells at cloud" bullshit.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:14 pm

Herador wrote:I don't get this thought process of "standing=productive/professional". When I worked for Costco as an Optician one of the apparently most contentious debates in our region was if we should be allowed to sit or not when we weren't with customers. The rational for standing typically came down to "old man yells at cloud" bullshit.

Well, in sports... there is a definite benefit to maintaining a readiness posture. I assume that there may be some sense of that in any occupation, with 'readiness' being heavily situation dependent, and so follows the appropriate corresponding posture. There are times that I feel more productive squatting, or lying down...

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Postby Herador » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:20 pm

Fractalnavel wrote:
Herador wrote:I don't get this thought process of "standing=productive/professional". When I worked for Costco as an Optician one of the apparently most contentious debates in our region was if we should be allowed to sit or not when we weren't with customers. The rational for standing typically came down to "old man yells at cloud" bullshit.

Well, in sports... there is a definite benefit to maintaining a readiness posture. I assume that there may be some sense of that in any occupation, with 'readiness' being heavily situation dependent, and so follows the appropriate corresponding posture. There are times that I feel more productive squatting, or lying down...

I agree, if you worked as, let's keep using Costco as an example, a cart packer who needs to be able to move around and even go out with a member when needed then you absolutely have a point. But there are some jobs, cashier for instance, where you're going to be in one spot for two hour increments and there's no reason you shouldn't be allowed to sit down.
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Postby Juansonia » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:33 pm

Sitting lets the legs rest, allowing more blood flow to go to the brain and arms.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:34 pm

Juansonia wrote:Sitting lets the legs rest, allowing more blood flow to go to the brain and arms.

I am curious how you sit...

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Postby Aiporhtse » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:37 pm

Sitting is a human right
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