UK Politics Thread: Conservative Losses in Local Elections

[Shrillland]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/sian-berry-zoe-garbett-green-party-london-assembly-member-brighton-b1156055.html

Greens' Sian Berry quits London Assembly just three days after re-election
Ms Berry’s resignation means that the party’s mayoral candidate Zoe Garbett will take her place at City Hall

She is standing in Brighton Pavilion at the next election as Caroline Lucas is standing down. Not quite sure why she bothered standing for the assembly again in the first place.

Look to Canada for the answer: She decided to stay as a sacrificial lamb so Garbett would be guaranteed a seat in the Assembly when all was over.

[Volvo Cars]

We need Boris so bad

[Atrito]

We need Boris so bad

said no one in the UK

[The Huskar Social Union]

We need Boris so bad

Haha

[Dumb Ideologies]

We need Boris so bad

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

[The Huskar Social Union]

We need Boris so bad

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

Fucking based, lets goo mega gargant jam man

[Ifreann]

We need Boris so bad

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

The Jolly Red Giant.

[Volvo Cars]

We need Boris so bad

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

Jeremy is dull as hell just look at his poker face

[Volvo Cars]

Why is everyone here laughing at me? Are y’all in labour party

[Atrito]

Why is everyone here laughing at me? Are y’all in labour party

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

[Fartsniffage]

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

The Jolly Red Giant.

The Jolly Red Jamiant.

[San Lumen]

Why is everyone here laughing at me? Are y’all in labour party

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

Starmer won't be much better. Sad he's the best Labour could come up with.

[Fartsniffage]

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

Starmer won't be much better. Sad he's the best Labour could come up with.

You supported Hillary Clinton.

[San Lumen]

Starmer won't be much better. Sad he's the best Labour could come up with.

You supported Hillary Clinton.

Your point being what? At least she had coherent positions.

[Volvo Cars]

Why is everyone here laughing at me? Are y’all in labour party

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

But what can you expect from Keir? He was in breach of lockdown restrictions just like Boris. And what about the problems of racism and Islamophobia within the party itself. I don’t think Britain will get better in the hand of these people

[Vassenor]

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

But what can you expect from Keir? He was in breach of lockdown restrictions just like Boris. And what about the problems of racism and Islamophobia within the party itself. I don’t think Britain will get better in the hand of these people

And how would it get better under Boris?


Assuming this isn’t yet another bit.

[Atrito]

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

Starmer won't be much better. Sad he's the best Labour could come up with.

Obviously there’s a big difference between “bland, centrist” Starmer and Boris, who actively screwed the country up in multiple ways. And let’s not forget Boris’s islamophobia - calling women wearing burkas “letterboxes” comes to mind.

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

But what can you expect from Keir? He was in breach of lockdown restrictions just like Boris. And what about the problems of racism and Islamophobia within the party itself. I don’t think Britain will get better in the hand of these people

Starmer didn’t break lockdown rules; police cleared him and everyone else involved in the so-called Beergate. Meanwhile, Boris paid a fine for Partygate, and was found to have misled Parliament by the Parliamentary Privileges Committee.

I think you’ll find that there’s more racism and islamophobia in the Conservative Party than there is in Labour; see aforementioned “letterboxes” incident, and all that’s going on with the Rwanda plan. While there is clearly some racism/islamophobia in the Labour Party, they are taking measures to deal with it; suspending their candidate in Rochdale over antisemitism, for example.

And fundamentally, we won’t know if the country’s better off under Labour until we get the Conservatives out of office, which we have every reason to believe would benefit the country - Truss’s ~45 day government managed to crash the economy, and Sunak’s trying to violate international law. I for one am hopeful that Starmer and Labour will deliver on what pledges they’ve made (those that remain, at least).

[Ostroeuropa]

You supported Hillary Clinton.

Your point being what? At least she had coherent positions.

Starmers values are socialist. The issue is he is now fixated (justifiably) on destroying the Tory Party and relegating them to 3rd place. In office I expect he will focus on rebuilding from the shitshow the Tories left, and if possible advancing one or two socialist causes. Corbyn jumped the shark by promising too much, too fast, rather than progressing toward the steady construction of a socialist society. (In addition, he was a Campist rather than, let's say, a NATO Socialist, which imo Starmer is.).

His politics are chiefly "Red-green" or "Pink-green" (As in, social democratic) depending on his mood. His tenure will likely be Pink-Green. It's just that right now he's not saying *anything unless he absolutely has to*, so everybody has no choice but to watch the Conservatives implode and self-destruct.

He doesn't need to call them a bunch of dog fuckers and have that be the news "Rude Labour Man Accuses Nice Tories of Fucking Dogs" instead of just shutting the fuck up and saying absolutely nothing, while the camera rolls on the Tories fucking a dog.

And if he comes out and says "Perhaps we ought to improve society somewhat" then the Camera will whip around to face him as a bunch of bullshit is flung his way asking how he can be so radical and naive as to believe the country isn't doomed to being shit and relying on peoples pessimism after years of the Tories grinding them down to make that land.

Say nothing. Do nothing. Force everybody to watch the Tories. The consequence is electoral oblivion for them.

The man was quoting Karl Marx and writing for socialist newspapers from the 80s until 2020. The very second he became leader, he shut the fuck up, and refuses to identify as a socialist, and doesn't launch any grand vision. He sits in the corner and when questioned says "You should ask my colleague across the floor about that" and forces you to watch the Tories fucking dogs again. This is either the longest con in world history, or...

He's a socialist. I'm so sick of the left being obtuse about this.

I also remind you all...

HE IS A FUCKING LAWYER. Think about this from that perspective. The defendant is in the stand, fucking a dog in front of the jury and rambling constantly about the crimes they've committed. Does the prosecution say anything, or stand there *in utter silence* and nod their head politely.

[Forsher]

If he delays it past next May, British people should march on Parliament and downing street

If he delays it past next May, we can assume democracy has come to an end in the UK for the simple reason that the PM is legally required to call an election no later than 17 December '24, which would lead to an election on 28 January '25 (on the basis that an election takes place 25 working days after being called; and with Christmas and New Year on top of weekends, that would lead to a slightly longer period than usual between calling an election and the actual election date).

How about under funding the election?

It turns out most of the problems we had with our last election probably have something to do with the largely unpopular government giving the Electoral Commission about half the money they wanted. Though the main way that seemed to go wrong is because of a feature that I don't think exists in the UK, i.e. election day enrolment, and a lack of staff and laptops to efficiently process both the enrolments and count votes. It turns out under these circumstances, counting by hand can go very wrong indeed and it is possible there is a sitting MP today that maybe shouldn't be due to the narrowness of the margins in one electorate.

For a government anticipating losing votes to three parties (i.e. Labour, the LibDems and Reform), a screwed up counting process might seem attractive as it implies relatively small majorities for the winning candidate. For a government anticipating losing constituencies due to massive majorities, obviously it would be pointless.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Well I'm not a member, but I do support them. That's not why I'm laughing though.

Boris lied to parliament, let thousands of people die due to his mismanagement of Covid, screwed the country with his "oven-ready" Brexit deal, among lots of other events. Subsequent Tory leaders have made the state of Britain even worse, so no one's really advocating to bring back the man who arguably started (or exacerbated) the downwards spiral.

But what can you expect from Keir? He was in breach of lockdown restrictions just like Boris.

No he wasn't.

[The Archregimancy]

No we need Jeremy Corbyn except this time one hundred feet tall and he can breathe fire.

Fucking based, lets goo mega gargant jam man

I'm now imagining a Kaiju film called Megakorbin vs. Bojo: Destroy All Monsters!

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

How about Jamera vs Bojogon

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Fucking based, lets goo mega gargant jam man

I'm now imagining a Kaiju film called Megakorbin vs. Bojo: Destroy All Monsters!

But will Kamero (猪の冒涜者カメロ) save the day?

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Conservative MP Natalie Elphicke defects to the Labour party for PMQs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-68975761

We can bring you more now from Natalie Elphicke, who has just announced her move to Labour.

In a statement, she hit out at the "broken promises of Rishi Sunak's tired and chaotic government".

The Dover MP crossed the floor in the Commons just moments before Prime Minister's Questions.

She said: "I have carefully considered this decision. The change has been dramatic and cannot be ignored.

"For me key deciding factors have been housing and the safety and security of our borders."

Tired and chaotic seems about right

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

She's an odious worm but given that Labour have an excellent candidate for Dover in Mike Tapp already, she's probably not standing for re-election, so I'm happy to use her to further damage Sunak and the Tories.