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Will Kevin McCarthy Remain Speaker?

Yes
25
29%
Yes, But He'll Have Democratic Support
12
14%
No
29
33%
IDK/Other
21
24%
 
Total votes : 87

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Postby El Lazaro » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:03 pm

Hispida wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:The heck does that even mean?

some languages use "USAian" or "US-American" as a demonym for the USA rather than "american". i know some spanish dictionaries use "estadounidense", german occassionally uses "US-amerikanisch", some italians say "statunitense", in formal portuguese the term is "nord-americano" and in academic brazilian portuguese it's "estadunidense", in esperanto it's "usonano" (although america itself is called usano), so on, and so forth. the term's gradually fallen by the wayside in everyday speech, and there are other examples like the central african republic using a broader term as their demonym.

methinks people who deliberately use "USAian" are just being anti-american for anti-america's sake unless they also use CARian for the central african republic, DRCian for the democratic republic of the congo, ROCian for the republic of congo, blah blah blah

Cannot think of a name wrote:I call Deutschland Germany I think China calls us something kingdom and we don't even have a king.

assuming you're talking about the US, the term for the US in chinese is "měiguó" which roughly translates to "beautiful kingdom" or "beautiful country" but probably isn't the actual origin of the name. i personally prefer japanese: "beikoku," or literally "rice country": like chinese, it's probably an abbreviation of the longer term. in chinese the original term might've been "Yà měi lǐ jià zhōu dà hézhòngguó", which when abbreviated gives us "měiguó" and roughly translates to i believe "the continent west of asia" but this is my very limited interpretation of google translate and pinyin translation sites at 1 AM. likewise, "beikoku" might come from the japanese "meriken", which shares the "米" or "bei" kanji (which is occasionally used as an abbreviation for "beikoku")

Isn’t the reason for the interesting country names because they’re made by stringing together a bunch of phonetic sounds (and thus, words) that are pronounced similarly to a foreign name? So like, it could be complete nonsense as long as it sounds close enough, meaning that other countries don’t necessarily have meaningful names.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:24 pm

Next week's highlights include the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, Mayoral races in Chicago(I think Vallas will squeak out a narrow win), Denver(not a lot of good polling, though I will say that it will got to the June runoff), and three ballot measures in Wisconsin: one advisory, and two binding Amendments below:

Question 1, to be voted on on April 4 with the next measure, would amend the constitution to allow the state legislature to define "serious harm" in relation to the conditions that a judge can impose on an accused person if they're released from jail before conviction. At the moment, judges can impose any condition they want to prevent bodily harm to others.

Question 2 would amend the constitution to allow judges to consider an accused person's previous convictions, the probability of them not appearing in court, the need to protect the community from serious harm(as defined by Question 1 if it passes), the need to protect witnesses from harm, and any potential affirmative defences before setting cash bail amounts.

My town also has votes that day, but as they're all unopposed, I'm sitting the vote out.
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Postby Adamede » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:37 pm

Hispida wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:The heck does that even mean?

some languages use "USAian" or "US-American" as a demonym for the USA rather than "american". i know some spanish dictionaries use "estadounidense", german occassionally uses "US-amerikanisch", some italians say "statunitense", in formal portuguese the term is "nord-americano" and in academic brazilian portuguese it's "estadunidense", in esperanto it's "usonano" (although america itself is called usano), so on, and so forth. the term's gradually fallen by the wayside in everyday speech, and there are other examples like the central african republic using a broader term as their demonym.

methinks people who deliberately use "USAian" are just being anti-american for anti-america's sake unless they also use CARian for the central african republic, DRCian for the democratic republic of the congo, ROCian for the republic of congo, blah blah blah

Cannot think of a name wrote:I call Deutschland Germany I think China calls us something kingdom and we don't even have a king.

assuming you're talking about the US, the term for the US in chinese is "měiguó" which roughly translates to "beautiful kingdom" or "beautiful country" but probably isn't the actual origin of the name. i personally prefer japanese: "beikoku," or literally "rice country": like chinese, it's probably an abbreviation of the longer term. in chinese the original term might've been "Yà měi lǐ jià zhōu dà hézhòngguó", which when abbreviated gives us "měiguó" and roughly translates to i believe "the continent west of asia" but this is my very limited interpretation of google translate and pinyin translation sites at 1 AM. likewise, "beikoku" might come from the japanese "meriken", which shares the "米" or "bei" kanji (which is occasionally used as an abbreviation for "beikoku")

That’s actually one of the best break downs on the subject I’ve seen.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:57 pm

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Postby Page » Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:35 am

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and if someone leaves the state for one how are they are going to know? They can't ask Washington or Oregon physicians for medical records.


Interrogate the suspect, friends and family and witnesses. Start putting together a timeline of when the person was seen before a missed appointment.

Like this is pretty basic police work.


If a cop ever comes to my door to ask me about a female friend who went out of state, he's going to get the finger and nothing else.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:37 am

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:07 am

Shrillland wrote:Next week's highlights include the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, Mayoral races in Chicago(I think Vallas will squeak out a narrow win), Denver(not a lot of good polling, though I will say that it will got to the June runoff), and three ballot measures in Wisconsin: one advisory, and two binding Amendments below:

Question 1, to be voted on on April 4 with the next measure, would amend the constitution to allow the state legislature to define "serious harm" in relation to the conditions that a judge can impose on an accused person if they're released from jail before conviction. At the moment, judges can impose any condition they want to prevent bodily harm to others.

Question 2 would amend the constitution to allow judges to consider an accused person's previous convictions, the probability of them not appearing in court, the need to protect the community from serious harm(as defined by Question 1 if it passes), the need to protect witnesses from harm, and any potential affirmative defences before setting cash bail amounts.

My town also has votes that day, but as they're all unopposed, I'm sitting the vote out.


What is your prediction for Wisconsin Supreme Court??

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Postby Uiiop » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:55 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Medical records can given by app companies without an warrant.


HIPPA makes that info available over payment.

The states can’t force a doc to hand over information on abortion….

The app compaines don't need force to give people infomation that implies such things like period cycles. They give because they're gullible enough to assume it's about catching OTHER bad guys or just don't care.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:04 am

Ah, my fellow Americans are contradicting themselves: a majority of Americans think the government spends too much in general, but yet, said we need to spend more in other areas.

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When you look at the graph, you find it odd that while Americans want to cut spending, they seem to want to increase spending more so. What I can get from this is that their idea of cutting spending implies helping foreign countries and others; Military Spending is split.

Either way, the amount of cuts they want comes no where close to how much they want to spend.
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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:05 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Hispida wrote:some languages use "USAian" or "US-American" as a demonym for the USA rather than "american". i know some spanish dictionaries use "estadounidense", german occassionally uses "US-amerikanisch", some italians say "statunitense", in formal portuguese the term is "nord-americano" and in academic brazilian portuguese it's "estadunidense", in esperanto it's "usonano" (although america itself is called usano), so on, and so forth. the term's gradually fallen by the wayside in everyday speech, and there are other examples like the central african republic using a broader term as their demonym.

methinks people who deliberately use "USAian" are just being anti-american for anti-america's sake unless they also use CARian for the central african republic, DRCian for the democratic republic of the congo, ROCian for the republic of congo, blah blah blah


assuming you're talking about the US, the term for the US in chinese is "měiguó" which roughly translates to "beautiful kingdom" or "beautiful country" but probably isn't the actual origin of the name. i personally prefer japanese: "beikoku," or literally "rice country": like chinese, it's probably an abbreviation of the longer term. in chinese the original term might've been "Yà měi lǐ jià zhōu dà hézhòngguó", which when abbreviated gives us "měiguó" and roughly translates to i believe "the continent west of asia" but this is my very limited interpretation of google translate and pinyin translation sites at 1 AM. likewise, "beikoku" might come from the japanese "meriken", which shares the "米" or "bei" kanji (which is occasionally used as an abbreviation for "beikoku")

Isn’t the reason for the interesting country names because they’re made by stringing together a bunch of phonetic sounds (and thus, words) that are pronounced similarly to a foreign name? So like, it could be complete nonsense as long as it sounds close enough, meaning that other countries don’t necessarily have meaningful names.

ehhhh? maybe? in chinese, i know this isn't always the case. for example, norway is "Nuó wēi" (literally a transliteration of norway) and thailand is "tàiguó" but iceland is "Bīng dǎo", which means "ice island" and japan is "rì běn" which roughly means "origin of the sun".
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Posted this in the wrong thread, now reposted: Two Iraq AUMFs (1991 and 2003) repealed by the Senate, 66-30.
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Postby Elwher » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:30 am

Picairn wrote:Posted this in the wrong thread, now reposted: Two Iraq AUMFs (1991 and 2003) repealed by the Senate, 66-30.


A great start to returning to the proper functioning of the three branches of government.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:32 am

Uiiop wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
HIPPA makes that info available over payment.

The states can’t force a doc to hand over information on abortion….

The app compaines don't need force to give people infomation that implies such things like period cycles. They give because they're gullible enough to assume it's about catching OTHER bad guys or just don't care.


That’s not how HIPPA works.

Being “gullible” doesn’t exempt you from punishment.
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Lamont Bagby (D) wins special election for McClellan’s Virginia Senate seat. Bagby got around ninety percent of the vote in this district that contains parts of Richmond including downtown.

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Postby Incelastan » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:18 am

Elwher wrote:
Picairn wrote:Posted this in the wrong thread, now reposted: Two Iraq AUMFs (1991 and 2003) repealed by the Senate, 66-30.


A great start to returning to the proper functioning of the three branches of government.


A pleasant surprise, especially from the predominantly neoconservative and neoliberal Senate.
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Postby Incelastan » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:20 am

Zurkerx wrote:Ah, my fellow Americans are contradicting themselves: a majority of Americans think the government spends too much in general, but yet, said we need to spend more in other areas.



When you look at the graph, you find it odd that while Americans want to cut spending, they seem to want to increase spending more so. What I can get from this is that their idea of cutting spending implies helping foreign countries and others; Military Spending is split.

Either way, the amount of cuts they want comes no where close to how much they want to spend.


Translation: they think that the priorities of the other guy are wrong, not their own. Which is understandable, but they need to be honest enough to come out and say that.

For example, I think that agricultural subsides for major agribusinesses are a waste of public funds, which would be better going to other things, which, yes, would include an increase in SNAP and WIC.
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Postby Deblar » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:43 am

Incelastan wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Ah, my fellow Americans are contradicting themselves: a majority of Americans think the government spends too much in general, but yet, said we need to spend more in other areas.



When you look at the graph, you find it odd that while Americans want to cut spending, they seem to want to increase spending more so. What I can get from this is that their idea of cutting spending implies helping foreign countries and others; Military Spending is split.

Either way, the amount of cuts they want comes no where close to how much they want to spend.


Translation: they think that the priorities of the other guy are wrong, not their own. Which is understandable, but they need to be honest enough to come out and say that.

For example, I think that agricultural subsides for major agribusinesses are a waste of public funds, which would be better going to other things, which, yes, would include an increase in SNAP and WIC.

Increasing welfare spending? But that’s socialism! /j

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Picairn wrote:Posted this in the wrong thread, now reposted: Two Iraq AUMFs (1991 and 2003) repealed by the Senate, 66-30.

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Postby Sutalia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:42 pm

Elwher wrote:
Picairn wrote:Posted this in the wrong thread, now reposted: Two Iraq AUMFs (1991 and 2003) repealed by the Senate, 66-30.


A great start to returning to the proper functioning of the three branches of government.

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:07 pm

This coming Tuesday, there are two important elections in Wisconsin. One is to fill a State Supreme Court seat that will decide the balance of power in the court. Protasiewicz seems to have the advantage but there has been no polling and it'll likely be close.

The other is a Special State Senate Election that will decide if the GOP will have a super majority in the Senate. The two races now seem closer than ever. How, you may ask? The GOP nominee for that State Senate Special Election, State Rep. Dan Knodl, said he "certainly would consider" impeaching a judge running for the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s open seat, which is likely Protasiewicz should she win. There was no reason given for his comments, but should he win, the Senate in Wisconsin would become a supermajority, which would make it easier to impeach.

Knodl, btw, is an election denier though I believe he's running in a Republican leaning area. To me, this is a threat: they likely fear that the likes of abortion and their gerrymandered maps will be overturned in a Court that would lean towards the Democrats.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Next week's highlights include the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, Mayoral races in Chicago(I think Vallas will squeak out a narrow win), Denver(not a lot of good polling, though I will say that it will got to the June runoff), and three ballot measures in Wisconsin: one advisory, and two binding Amendments below:

Question 1, to be voted on on April 4 with the next measure, would amend the constitution to allow the state legislature to define "serious harm" in relation to the conditions that a judge can impose on an accused person if they're released from jail before conviction. At the moment, judges can impose any condition they want to prevent bodily harm to others.

Question 2 would amend the constitution to allow judges to consider an accused person's previous convictions, the probability of them not appearing in court, the need to protect the community from serious harm(as defined by Question 1 if it passes), the need to protect witnesses from harm, and any potential affirmative defences before setting cash bail amounts.

My town also has votes that day, but as they're all unopposed, I'm sitting the vote out.


What is your prediction for Wisconsin Supreme Court??

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Difficult to say, really. I haven't really been able to make a prediction with how close it is.
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