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Will Kevin McCarthy Remain Speaker?

Yes
25
29%
Yes, But He'll Have Democratic Support
12
14%
No
29
33%
IDK/Other
21
24%
 
Total votes : 87

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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:55 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Is it strange that I could almost imagining him doing this in order to blackmail the government to get the election overturned?

Tbh there’s been times he’s been acting like a Bond villain.

It is because of what you guys read in the Leftist Media, by many anti Trump, Leftist Democrat Politicians, VIPs, Journalists and Political commentators in the Leftist Media.


Have you ever stopped to consider that this might not be the result of bias and might actually be truthful?

Or must it be bias by default because it conflicts with the comfortable worldview you have created for yourself?

Also if you seriously believe there is a left wing bias in the US Media then I have some prime ocean view property in Colorado to sell to you.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:03 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:It is because of what you guys read in the Leftist Media, by many anti Trump, Leftist Democrat Politicians, VIPs, Journalists and Political commentators in the Leftist Media.


Or he does things that sound so dramatic I feel like this is a spy thriller

As I stated is due to the Anti Trump Leftist Media and the Leftists who comment on it.

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Postby Shrillland » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:06 am

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:21 am



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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:29 pm

Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:35 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?

Well, now they call themselves 'moderates' or 'independents' so they can quietly support the radical hate-fest but still face their neighbors.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?

Well, now they call themselves 'moderates' or 'independents' so they can quietly support the radical hate-fest but still face their neighbors.

Yes, if they make their own so-called "moderate" rightist party (assuming no remaining sane people join), the GOP will pull a Whig and die.

Good.
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:59 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?

No. Neocons still exist.
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:58 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?

No. Neocons still exist.

You’re 10% of all the remaining neocons, Port.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:59 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Is the center-right gone?

Has the right been absorbed into the radical hate-fest we see today?

No. Neocons still exist.


Only because they haven’t died of old age yet.
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:03 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:No. Neocons still exist.

You’re 10% of all the remaining neocons, Port.


Nah he's 25%.
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Postby Boneville » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:06 pm

Bradfordville wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:You’re 10% of all the remaining neocons, Port.


Nah he's 25%.

You are a flat 50%
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:03 pm

Bradfordville wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:You’re 10% of all the remaining neocons, Port.


Nah he's 25%.

Nope. He beyond Neocon. He's an election denier, imperialist, and has played into the bogus narrative that rightists are somehow "targeted by the government".

But yep, a neoconservative part of a dying species, alright.
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:04 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Nah he's 25%.

Nope. He beyond Neocon. He's an election denier, imperialist, and has played into the bogus narrative that rightists are somehow "targeted by the government".

But yep, a neoconservative part of a dying species, alright.

When did I say that right-wingers are targeted by the government?

Also I wanted Trump to come out victorious out of January 6th so that Tehran could be nuked with the help of Bolton.
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