Gun Control 2023 - ATF Shenanigans, States Fight Back!

[The Apollonian Systems]

Can’t wait for that to fail in court.

What's there to fail? Not doing business with someone isn't a crime.

I’m referring to trying to put the blame for illegal switches on glock despite the fact that glock doesn’t make them, but hey the court system if fucked in this country anyway.

[Grinning Dragon]

Utah, joins the handful of states in passing a law that prohibits financial institutions of using a merchant code to track purchases.
Utah Law Says “No” to Tracking Firearms/Ammo Purchases Through Credit Card Transactions

Well now. obama appointed judge rules that illegals have a right to keep and bear arms.
Gun Ban for Illegal Immigrants Ruled Unconstitutional

brady tards are rolling out a new lie. "8 children die or are injured" by unsecured firearms daily.
brady gun control group Rolls-Out Brand New Lie On CNN News

[Southglory]

Literally opens up that if they have a right to keep and bear arms then they have a right to influence any election. Even if it devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of American citizens.

[Grinning Dragon]

Literally opens up that if they have a right to keep and bear arms then they have a right to influence any election. Even if it devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of American citizens.

Ultimately, it all boils down to what it meant at the time of founding and with the ratification of the 14th Amendment that recognized/affirmed the Bill of Rights and extended it to the freed slaves and to the states on who were considered as part of "the people.
In regards to voting, voting is a positive right. Negative right > Positive right.

[Southglory]

Looked up the terms seems sensible for negative rights to take a greater value than positive rights.

[Kernen]

Literally opens up that if they have a right to keep and bear arms then they have a right to influence any election. Even if it devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of American citizens.

Of course we have the right to influence an election. What do you think political speech and voting rights do?

[Southglory]

Literally opens up that if they have a right to keep and bear arms then they have a right to influence any election. Even if it devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of American citizens.

Of course we have the right to influence an election. What do you think political speech and voting rights do?

I'm referring to illegal immigrants. However if you mean to say illegal immigrants can influence elections and not vote in them, I believe I understand.

[Grinning Dragon]

Wow, 9yrs to pass a knife preemption law.
After 9 Year Effort, Idaho Governor Signs Knife Rights’ Knife Law Preemption Bill!

Kentucky joins the states that ban MCC for firearm and ammo purchases.
Kentucky Joins List of States Protecting Gun Owner, Consumer Privacy

The legislation comes in the wake of revelations that the U.S. Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) had overstepped its bounds by collecting data on gun purchasers without warrants, raising serious Fourth Amendment concerns. This infringement upon the privacy of individuals exercising their Second Amendment rights underscored the necessity of protective measures like Kentucky’s Second Amendment Privacy Act.

Kentucky joins a growing list of states passing similar laws to protect against the invasion of financial privacy when purchasing firearms and ammunition, including Wyoming, Indiana, Utah, Florida, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Texas and West Virginia. These states have all passed laws protecting citizens’ Second Amendment privacy. Other states are considering similar legislation. The NSSF notes (and supports) U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik who has introduced H.R. 7450, the NSSF-supported Protecting Privacy in Purchases Act in the U.S. House of Representatives to provide federal-level protections.

[Floofybit]

Utah, joins the handful of states in passing a law that prohibits financial institutions of using a merchant code to track purchases.
Utah Law Says “No” to Tracking Firearms/Ammo Purchases Through Credit Card Transactions

Good. My state should keep it's grubby hands off of who buys what.

[Juansonia]

Utah, joins the handful of states in passing a law that prohibits financial institutions of using a merchant code to track purchases.
Utah Law Says “No” to Tracking Firearms/Ammo Purchases Through Credit Card Transactions

Good. My state should keep it's grubby hands off of who buys what.

Is this an April fools post?

[American Legionaries]

Good. My state should keep it's grubby hands off of who buys what.

Is this an April fools post?

April Fools Day: when Floof makes a reasonable post in the GC thread...

[Grinning Dragon]

HEH. Better late than never.
NRA gets injunctive relief on the unlawful pistol brace rule.
Ruling: Millions of NRA Members Exempt From Pistol Brace Ban

[Tarsonis]

Is this an April fools post?

April Fools Day: when Floof makes a reasonable post in the GC thread...

Nah, just Mormons fall in line when Utah does stuff.

[The Apollonian Systems]

Utah, joins the handful of states in passing a law that prohibits financial institutions of using a merchant code to track purchases.
Utah Law Says “No” to Tracking Firearms/Ammo Purchases Through Credit Card Transactions

Good. My state should keep it's grubby hands off of who buys what.

This very much does not line up with your sig.

[Floofybit]

April Fools Day: when Floof makes a reasonable post in the GC thread...

Nah, just Mormons fall in line when Utah does stuff.

Nah, it was indeed April Fools. I think all purchases should be tracked. I can disagree with my state when it gets a bit too unsafe and libertarian. But it's still the best state.

[Tarsonis]

Nah, just Mormons fall in line when Utah does stuff.

Nah, it was indeed April Fools. I think all purchases should be tracked. I can disagree with my state when it gets a bit too unsafe and libertarian. But it's still the best state.

Just wait till SLC gets a hockey team. No idea how you're gonna cope with all the hip checking and fighting

[The Apollonian Systems]

Nah, it was indeed April Fools. I think all purchases should be tracked. I can disagree with my state when it gets a bit too unsafe and libertarian. But it's still the best state.

Just wait till SLC gets a hockey team. No idea how you're gonna cope with all the hip checking and fighting

Simple, bubble wrap and tell them to be nice.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

Nah, it was indeed April Fools. I think all purchases should be tracked. I can disagree with my state when it gets a bit too unsafe and libertarian. But it's still the best state.

Libertarian and unsafe?
Is that like military intelligence,
or Christian Communism?

[Confederate States 0f America]

Anyone have any insight on the E*forms on NFA now reducing wait time for suppressors down to a couple days or week? Seen that from a few YouTube gun channels and YouTubers.

[Grinning Dragon]

The 3rd circuit court of appeals has denied Penn govt a full en banc hearing after a 3 panel judge struck down the prohibition of 18-20 yr olds carrying firearms for self-defense and prevents them from acquiring a state license to carry (LTCF) because of their age. Lara v. Evanchick
So the 3 panel decision stands, this decision is also binding on NJ and Delaware. Only way to have a chance to get it over turned is by the USSC.

[Grinning Dragon]

Appeals Court Hears Challenge to Enhanced Background Checks For Gun Buyers Under 21

The plaintiffs sought a preliminary injunction against the federally mandated waiting period in a Texas Federal District Court but were unsuccessful in securing an injunction. The denial of the preliminary injunction led the plaintiffs to an appeal to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans. The group asked the three-judge panel, which was made up of a Bush, Reagan, and Biden appointee, to block the enforcement of the law.

The plaintiffs argue that 18 to 20-year-olds are part of “the people” and should be treated no differently from other Americans trying to use their rights. They claimed that the law runs afoul of the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision, which required that any gun law be consistent with the text, tradition, and history of the Second Amendment. According to the plaintiff’s attorney, Stephen Stamboulieh, the Government could not cite any historical law from the founding era that showed young adults being delayed from buying guns.

Plain and simple, waiting periods are unconstitutional; as applied and facially, so is treating 18-20yr olds as a different class of "the people"

[The Two Jerseys]

Appeals Court Hears Challenge to Enhanced Background Checks For Gun Buyers Under 21

The plaintiffs sought a preliminary injunction against the federally mandated waiting period in a Texas Federal District Court but were unsuccessful in securing an injunction. The denial of the preliminary injunction led the plaintiffs to an appeal to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans. The group asked the three-judge panel, which was made up of a Bush, Reagan, and Biden appointee, to block the enforcement of the law.

The plaintiffs argue that 18 to 20-year-olds are part of “the people” and should be treated no differently from other Americans trying to use their rights. They claimed that the law runs afoul of the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision, which required that any gun law be consistent with the text, tradition, and history of the Second Amendment. According to the plaintiff’s attorney, Stephen Stamboulieh, the Government could not cite any historical law from the founding era that showed young adults being delayed from buying guns.

Plain and simple, waiting periods are unconstitutional; as applied and facially, so is treating 18-20yr olds as a different class of "the people"

Daily reminder that the government will trust these young men and women with a 155mm howitzer but not a Glock...

[Juansonia]

Appeals Court Hears Challenge to Enhanced Background Checks For Gun Buyers Under 21
Plain and simple, waiting periods are unconstitutional; as applied and facially, so is treating 18-20yr olds as a different class of "the people"

Daily reminder that the government will trust these young men and women with a 155mm howitzer but not a Glock...

There's no such thing as Howitzer Leg.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Daily reminder that the government will trust these young men and women with a 155mm howitzer but not a Glock...

There's no such thing as Howitzer Leg.

We can totally make it a thing. We have the technology.

[Grinning Dragon]

Appeals Court Hears Challenge to Enhanced Background Checks For Gun Buyers Under 21


Plain and simple, waiting periods are unconstitutional; as applied and facially, so is treating 18-20yr olds as a different class of "the people"

Daily reminder that the government will trust these young men and women with a 155mm howitzer but not a Glock...

Govt also did their damn best to disarm vets because they used a fiduciary after trusting said previous young adults.

Also the ministry of civilian disarmament along with the feckless cdc is pushing that doctors asking patients about firearms and storage bullshit again and pretending medical boundaries don't exist.