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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:35 am

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That is just a rating given. It has no legal standing. You can’t impeach someone for not having qualifications they were never required to have.


So would you hire someone for a job who doesn't even meet the Person Specification?


Companies can do whatever they want. There is no requirements to be a judge at the federal level.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:36 am

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So would you hire someone for a job who doesn't even meet the Person Specification?


Companies can do whatever they want. There is no requirements to be a judge at the federal level.


Which is just absurd and stupid.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:39 am

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Companies can do whatever they want. There is no requirements to be a judge at the federal level.


Which is just absurd and stupid.


Perhaps it should change but what’s even more absurd and stupid is wanting to impeach someone for not having qualifications they were not required to have. This judge made her ruling and that’s that.

No transit agency or airline is required to require masks anymore. The ruling can be appealed but that does not seem likely.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:41 am

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Which is just absurd and stupid.


No transit agency or airline is required to require masks. The ruling can be appealed but that does not seem likely.


It should be appealed, because it puts workers and passengers at risk of catching the virus, leading them to take time off work which could mean they lose their jobs due to a lack of strong worker's rights n the US.

These actions have serious consequences.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:43 am

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No transit agency or airline is required to require masks. The ruling can be appealed but that does not seem likely.


It should be appealed, because it puts workers and passengers at risk of catching the virus, leading them to take time off work which could inadvertently lose their job due to a lack of strong worker's rights n the US.

These actions have serious consequences.


Masks are not required anywhere else but transit. What is the point?

It doesn’t seem like it will be given the TSA has already said they won’t enforce masks anymore. It’s now up to the individual agency.

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:44 am

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It should be appealed, because it puts workers and passengers at risk of catching the virus, leading them to take time off work which could inadvertently lose their job due to a lack of strong worker's rights n the US.

These actions have serious consequences.


Masks are not required anywhere else but transit. What is the point?

It doesn’t seem like it will be given the TSA has already said they won’t enforce masks anymore. It’s now up to the individual agency.


Because transit systems are small closed spaces leading to the easy transmission of the virus? I mean, it's quite obvious and logical.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:47 am

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Masks are not required anywhere else but transit. What is the point?

It doesn’t seem like it will be given the TSA has already said they won’t enforce masks anymore. It’s now up to the individual agency.


Because transit systems are small closed spaces leading to the easy transmission of the virus? I mean, it's quite obvious and logical.


They always were easy transmissions for any virus.

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:48 am

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Because transit systems are small closed spaces leading to the easy transmission of the virus? I mean, it's quite obvious and logical.


They always were easy transmissions for any virus.


Yes, and how many viruses seriously affect the respiratory system?

Your response isn't as smart as you think it is.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
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It should be appealed, because it puts workers and passengers at risk of catching the virus, leading them to take time off work which could inadvertently lose their job due to a lack of strong worker's rights n the US.

These actions have serious consequences.


Masks are not required anywhere else but transit. What is the point?

You understand perfectly well. Stop pretending to be ignorant.

It doesn’t seem like it will be given the TSA has already said they won’t enforce masks anymore. It’s now up to the individual agency.

Of course the TSA doesn't care about real dangers, their job is just security theatre.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:49 am

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Because transit systems are small closed spaces leading to the easy transmission of the virus? I mean, it's quite obvious and logical.


They always were easy transmissions for any virus.

Like HIV?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:52 am

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Masks are not required anywhere else but transit. What is the point?

You understand perfectly well. Stop pretending to be ignorant.

It doesn’t seem like it will be given the TSA has already said they won’t enforce masks anymore. It’s now up to the individual agency.

Of course the TSA doesn't care about real dangers, their job is just security theatre.


No I don’t. Explain to me the rationale behind this. Say I take metro north from upstate New York to Grand Central a mask is required. I get on the subway and when I get to the Amtrak concourse to travel to Washington DC a mask is now not required as Amtrak dropped it.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:55 am

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Ifreann wrote:You understand perfectly well. Stop pretending to be ignorant.


Of course the TSA doesn't care about real dangers, their job is just security theatre.


No I don’t. Explain to me the rationale behind this.


I already explained the rationale.
How about you answer our questions like, why are mask mandates bad?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:55 am

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No I don’t. Explain to me the rationale behind this.


I already explained the rationale.
How about you answer our questions like, why are mask mandates bad?


And what Endemic actually means.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:59 am

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Ifreann wrote:You understand perfectly well. Stop pretending to be ignorant.


Of course the TSA doesn't care about real dangers, their job is just security theatre.


No I don’t. Explain to me the rationale behind this.

Masks are very useful for preventing the spread of covid-19, which is a coronavirus which has been spreading around the world since late 2019.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:59 am

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No I don’t. Explain to me the rationale behind this.

Masks are very useful for preventing the spread of covid-19, which is a coronavirus which has been spreading around the world since late 2019.


You didn’t answer my question.

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:01 am

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Ifreann wrote:Masks are very useful for preventing the spread of covid-19, which is a coronavirus which has been spreading around the world since late 2019.


You didn’t answer my question.


He did answer it, as did I.

Now you answer ours:
Why are mask mandates bad?
What does Endemic mean?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:03 am

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Ifreann wrote:Masks are very useful for preventing the spread of covid-19, which is a coronavirus which has been spreading around the world since late 2019.


You didn’t answer my question.

You asked me to explain the rationale behind mask wearing and I did. You didn't ask any other questions. Telling me that masks aren't required on Amtrak isn't a question.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:06 am

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You didn’t answer my question.

You asked me to explain the rationale behind mask wearing and I did. You didn't ask any other questions. Telling me that masks aren't required on Amtrak isn't a question.


I asked you the rationale and logic behind Metro North and the subway saying they will still require masks but Amtrak won’t.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:09 am

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Ifreann wrote:You asked me to explain the rationale behind mask wearing and I did. You didn't ask any other questions. Telling me that masks aren't required on Amtrak isn't a question.


I asked you the rationale and logic behind Metro North and the subway saying they will still require masks but Amtrak won’t.

The rationale is that masks help prevent the spread of covid-19. The possibility that you will get off the subway and rush out into the streets to grab random strangers and demand that they breathe directly on your face doesn't mean that the subway was wrong to tell you to wear a mask.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:13 am

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I asked you the rationale and logic behind Metro North and the subway saying they will still require masks but Amtrak won’t.

The rationale is that masks help prevent the spread of covid-19. The possibility that you will get off the subway and rush out into the streets to grab random strangers and demand that they breathe directly on your face doesn't mean that the subway was wrong to tell you to wear a mask.


Again dodging. That’s not what I said. Explain to me the rationale of needing a mask on the subway but once I board a train to say Washington DC I no longer need it.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:17 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The rationale is that masks help prevent the spread of covid-19. The possibility that you will get off the subway and rush out into the streets to grab random strangers and demand that they breathe directly on your face doesn't mean that the subway was wrong to tell you to wear a mask.


Again dodging. That’s not what I said. Explain to me the rationale of needing a mask on the subway but once I board a train to say Washington DC I no longer need it.

The rationale is that masks help prevent the spread of covid-19. What do you not fucking understand here? "What if I go somewhere else and don't wear a mask?", fucking what about it? What does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The rationale is that masks help prevent the spread of covid-19. The possibility that you will get off the subway and rush out into the streets to grab random strangers and demand that they breathe directly on your face doesn't mean that the subway was wrong to tell you to wear a mask.


Again dodging. That’s not what I said. Explain to me the rationale of needing a mask on the subway but once I board a train to say Washington DC I no longer need it.


That's a new question. He answered your previous question.

So how about you answer ours and stop dodging?

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:05 am

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Can't USSC Justices be impeached?


Yes federal judges can and have been impeached. To impeach because you don’t like their rulings is an extremely dangerous door to open.

It’s a good door to open (alternatively, ratfuck the courts ‘till they lose a bunch of power)
This woman is a political operative in a judge’s robes, with insane amounts of power and next to no accountability, and like pretty much every trump-appointed judge, her goal is the destruction of the administrative state (which is most of the functioning of the country)

You can, of course, take a seat and watch as a bunch of federalist society goons take a buzzsaw to the normal functions of government but this strikes me as a bad idea!
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:09 am

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Yes federal judges can and have been impeached. To impeach because you don’t like their rulings is an extremely dangerous door to open.

It’s a good door to open (alternatively, ratfuck the courts ‘till they lose a bunch of power)
This woman is a political operative in a judge’s robes, with insane amounts of power and next to no accountability, and like pretty much every trump-appointed judge, her goal is the destruction of the administrative state (which is most of the functioning of the country)

You can, of course, take a seat and watch as a bunch of federalist society goons take a buzzsaw to the normal functions of government but this strikes me as a bad idea!


You open this door and judges will be impeached left and right so let’s not.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:15 am

Kowani wrote:
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Yes federal judges can and have been impeached. To impeach because you don’t like their rulings is an extremely dangerous door to open.

It’s a good door to open (alternatively, ratfuck the courts ‘till they lose a bunch of power)
This woman is a political operative in a judge’s robes, with insane amounts of power and next to no accountability, and like pretty much every trump-appointed judge, her goal is the destruction of the administrative state (which is most of the functioning of the country)

You can, of course, take a seat and watch as a bunch of federalist society goons take a buzzsaw to the normal functions of government but this strikes me as a bad idea!

Decades of social progress is a small price to pay to end mask mandates.
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