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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
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Glenn Youngkin(R)
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:20 am

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Lol no

That's just what a CIA asset would say... :eyebrow:
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:21 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:Leftists getting mad that AOC, who is not and never was a Leftist, isn't Left enough for them is incredibly funny for some reason.

I’m not mad about her not being a leftist, I’m mad at the association of her with leftists. She’s not a leftist and id wish everyone would stop associating her with leftists and Id like everyone to realize that she has no morals other than trying to be a senator


To be a senator you have to have little or no morals.
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Antipatros
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Postby Antipatros » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:23 am

AOC will probably need to wait for a Senator slot to open up in NY.

I guess she could try to primary one of the current Senators. Seems kinda unlikely though.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:48 am

Antipatros wrote:AOC will probably need to wait for a Senator slot to open up in NY.

I guess she could try to primary one of the current Senators. Seems kinda unlikely though.

I don’t think she’d win. Both are quite popular.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Nyet, Comerade

Da, wonderful KGB have many asset

The KGB is a CIA asset.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:02 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Da, wonderful KGB have many asset

The KGB is a CIA asset.


Well you got me there
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Postby Nora Xent » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Da, wonderful KGB have many asset

The KGB is a CIA asset.

What if the CIA is a FBI asset?

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Postby Vlad Tepes Stan Account » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Da, wonderful KGB have many asset

The KGB is a CIA asset.

More likely for the CIA to be a KGB asset given that out of the three most competent intelligence agencies during the Cold War, two were communist (the KGB and Stasi) and none of the three were American.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:31 am

Nora Xent wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The KGB is a CIA asset.

What if the CIA is a FBI asset?

And of course the FBI is a Coast Guard asset.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:32 am

Vlad Tepes Stan Account wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The KGB is a CIA asset.

More likely for the CIA to be a KGB asset given that out of the three most competent intelligence agencies during the Cold War, two were communist (the KGB and Stasi) and none of the three were American.


you say that, but, scoreboard
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Postby Comerciante » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:42 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Vlad Tepes Stan Account wrote:More likely for the CIA to be a KGB asset given that out of the three most competent intelligence agencies during the Cold War, two were communist (the KGB and Stasi) and none of the three were American.


you say that, but, scoreboard

You can win the battles but you can still lose the war.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Da, wonderful KGB have many asset

The KGB is a CIA asset.


Are you sure about that? Department of Homeland Security looks very KGB in the layout design.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:59 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The KGB is a CIA asset.


Are you sure about that? Department of Homeland Security looks very KGB in the layout design.

That just means W is behind everything
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:37 pm

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:46 pm

The Andorian System wrote:There was a time when I thought I was supposed to get whatever I want whenever I wanted it. My attitude could have been expressed by the lyrics of “I Want it All,” a song by Queen. Here are some lyrics from that song:

I'm a man with a one track mind.
So much to do in one life time.
Not a man for compromise,
And where's and why's and living lies
So I'm living it all. Yes I'm living it all.
And I'm giving it all. And I'm giving it all.
It ain't much I'm asking, if you want the truth.
Here's to the future, hear the cry of youth.
I want it all.
I want it all.
I want it all,
And I want it now,


Now, I have no problem with listening to the occasional Queen song, but if Freddy Mercury actually lived his life this way, he would have been incredibly immature.

I used to think the same way the ideological purists on the left think. That attitude ended the moment I decided that the world didn't revolve around me. That attitude ended when I threw away childish things.

This is why I referred to the ideological purists on the left as “The Uber-left Freddy Mercury Crowd.” They seem to think that they should get everything they want whenever they want it. While those sentiments make a good song, they aren’t a prescription for how an adult should live their life.

In hindsight, I wish to make an apology... to the family of Freddy Mercury. I shouldn’t have associated his name and legacy to the childish attitudes of morally repugnant, whiny ideological purists who criticize Alexandria Ocazio-Cortez and any other politician who fails their unrealistic purity tests. In the future, I will be more careful with my words.

Peace!

And with one rambling post you manage not only to misunderstand my point but Freddie Mercury's as well, but congratulations on taking a step back from a one-track mind to a broken record. It might be unrealistic to expect a politician not to support genocide, but it certainly isn't morally repugnant to oppose them for it.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:48 pm


Oh Deere.



There, I've done it. The obvious joke has been made. We may all now go on with our lives.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:18 pm

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A group of Democratic operatives plans to turn political memorabilia and photos into NFTs, looking to raise money by minting — and then selling — digital assets beyond the sports and entertainment arenas. With both conservative and liberal groups already spending millions to pressure lawmakers over President Biden's social safety net expansion, Democrats are looking to tap into non-fungible tokens to outraise their opponents.

On Monday, a new group, Front Row, will launch a political NFT marketplace — and only allow Democratic campaigns and causes to use it. The first NFTs for sale will be digital collectibles from the Texas Democratic Party. For example, for $250, a political activist can purchase a digital "Wanted" poster, with animation, of different Texas lawmakers who fled the state this year in a failed effort to block its new restrictive voting law.[...] A political organization or campaign will create an NFT, establish the number of tokens and then set the price.

Buyers will purchase the NFT through the Front Row website, much like a traditional donor would donate to a campaign through the Act Blue website. The donor — or more accurately, the purchaser — would then own the NFT. The proceeds will go to the campaign, with Front Row taking a transaction fee. The sales will have to conform to campaign finance laws. Federal candidates will be limited to selling NFTs for $5,800 — the maximum per-cycle contribution — while PACs and party committees can up their prices accordingly.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:27 pm

Kowani wrote:i want off this ride

A group of Democratic operatives plans to turn political memorabilia and photos into NFTs, looking to raise money by minting — and then selling — digital assets beyond the sports and entertainment arenas. With both conservative and liberal groups already spending millions to pressure lawmakers over President Biden's social safety net expansion, Democrats are looking to tap into non-fungible tokens to outraise their opponents.

On Monday, a new group, Front Row, will launch a political NFT marketplace — and only allow Democratic campaigns and causes to use it. The first NFTs for sale will be digital collectibles from the Texas Democratic Party. For example, for $250, a political activist can purchase a digital "Wanted" poster, with animation, of different Texas lawmakers who fled the state this year in a failed effort to block its new restrictive voting law.[...] A political organization or campaign will create an NFT, establish the number of tokens and then set the price.

Buyers will purchase the NFT through the Front Row website, much like a traditional donor would donate to a campaign through the Act Blue website. The donor — or more accurately, the purchaser — would then own the NFT. The proceeds will go to the campaign, with Front Row taking a transaction fee. The sales will have to conform to campaign finance laws. Federal candidates will be limited to selling NFTs for $5,800 — the maximum per-cycle contribution — while PACs and party committees can up their prices accordingly.

Very cool that the Democrats are getting in on this environment destroying scam bullshit. Very cool and good. Yay and so on.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:27 pm

Comerciante wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
you say that, but, scoreboard

You can win the battles but you can still lose the war.



Uh, we won the cold war.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:32 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Comerciante wrote:You can win the battles but you can still lose the war.



Uh, we won the cold war.

I believe the suggestion is that the KGB won their battles against the CIA but ultimately lost the war.
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Uh, we won the cold war.

I believe the suggestion is that the KGB won their battles against the CIA but ultimately lost the war.


Honestly? 30 years later it sure doesn't feel like we won.
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:40 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I believe the suggestion is that the KGB won their battles against the CIA but ultimately lost the war.


Honestly? 30 years later it sure doesn't feel like we won.

we did win
we just squandered the victory
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:43 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I believe the suggestion is that the KGB won their battles against the CIA but ultimately lost the war.


Honestly? 30 years later it sure doesn't feel like we won.

That's because what you were trying to win is bad, and you should feel bad.

Well, not you. You probably weren't involved.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Honestly? 30 years later it sure doesn't feel like we won.

That's because what you were trying to win is bad, and you should feel bad.

Well, not you. You probably weren't involved.


I dunno, I was born right about when the USSR collapsed. Correlation, Causation, tomato potato
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Honestly? 30 years later it sure doesn't feel like we won.

That's because what you were trying to win is bad, and you should feel bad.

Well, not you. You probably weren't involved.


Oh I was there. *sighs*

Not sure the world got better though. There are days......
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