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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
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Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Total votes : 653

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:23 pm

https://abc7ny.com/politics/eric-adams- ... /10864536/

With most absentee ballots counted in NYC mayor election outgoing Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams leads by about 8400 votes. Its unlikely enough votes remain for Garcia to pull ahead. NSG decision desk hereby calls Adams as the apparent winner.

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Postby Uiiop » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Maybe if the audience and the thread agreed with you and saw the research at hand but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I would genuinely appreciate what you got that addresses my issues with this argument.

You haven't provided any issues to begin with and are just trying to waste time with bad faith arguments and contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism. That's been your schtick for 4 years.

Change your attitude, then we can talk.

I honestly do want to hear you out. If there's something wrong with the past year of posting that gave you otherwise then I'm sorry.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:27 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
An here we go with the reversal. What evidence do you have of same day registration leading to fraud? None I gather.

You have no evidence either.


Your the one who made the claim. The burden of proof is on you not me.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/politics/eric-adams-holds-narrow-lead-in-latest-ranked-choice-results/10864536/

With most absentee ballots counted in NYC mayor election outgoing Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams leads by about 8400 votes. Its unlikely enough votes remain for Garcia to pull ahead. NSG decision desk hereby calls Adams as the apparent winner.

I posted about this too. Its ok because all of us make different comments and not all of us get to see our posts. I posted it on NS and on a right wing news site I post on. The election authorities said, they made a mistake they counted test ballots. Which just proves how easy it is to commit election vote fraud.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:29 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/politics/eric-adams-holds-narrow-lead-in-latest-ranked-choice-results/10864536/

With most absentee ballots counted in NYC mayor election outgoing Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams leads by about 8400 votes. Its unlikely enough votes remain for Garcia to pull ahead. NSG decision desk hereby calls Adams as the apparent winner.

I posted about this too. Its ok because all of us make different comments and not all of us get to see our posts. I posted it on NS and on a right wing news site I post on. The election authorities said, they made a mistake they counted test ballots. Which just proves how easy it easy to commit election vote fraud.


No that is not fraud. That was incompetence on the part of the BOE.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I posted about this too. Its ok because all of us make different comments and not all of us get to see our posts. I posted it on NS and on a right wing news site I post on. The election authorities said, they made a mistake they counted test ballots. Which just proves how easy it easy to commit election vote fraud.


No that is not fraud. That was incompetence on the part of the BOE.

I know this. I said it proves how easy it is to commit election vote fraud.
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Postby Tinker-Bell » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:31 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
An here we go with the reversal. What evidence do you have of same day registration leading to fraud? None I gather.

You have no evidence either.

I met Pee-wee Herman once. It went like this.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:32 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No that is not fraud. That was incompetence on the part of the BOE.

I know this. I said it proves how easy it is to commit election vote fraud.

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No it doesn't. Still waiting on your proof of same day registration leading to fraud. I believe is not evidence.

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Postby Catarapania » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:34 pm

Thread Name: "Can't we all just get along?"
Thread Contents: *near-universal and essentially unilateral throwing of shit at 40% of the country*

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:35 pm

Catarapania wrote:Thread Name: "Can't we all just get along?"
Thread Contents: *near-universal and essentially unilateral throwing of shit at 40% of the country*


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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:37 pm

https://apnews.com/article/ny-state-wir ... 6f52daf55e

AP calls NYC mayoral primary for Adams. He will be heavily favored in the November election against Curtis Silwa to become New York's second black mayor.

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Postby Uiiop » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:37 pm

Uiiop wrote:
New haven america wrote:You haven't provided any issues to begin with and are just trying to waste time with bad faith arguments and contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism. That's been your schtick for 4 years.

Change your attitude, then we can talk.

I honestly do want to hear you out. If there's something wrong with the past year of posting that gave you otherwise then I'm sorry.

I will say however that debate isn't just about the person you're replying to. It's about the audience and fellow posters who may use this place as their research.

While my posting certainly has it's issues I don't feel it's right to the audience to deny valuable information because of it and in fact would only cede ground for people's thought-terminating cliques.

If it's because you think both the audience and the fellow posters are all in bad faith that's understandable but then i must ask why you are here in this shithole?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I know this. I said it proves how easy it is to commit election vote fraud.

'
No it doesn't. Still waiting on your proof of same day registration leading to fraud. I believe is not evidence.

Since they can pass test ballots and get mixed up with real votes as real votes. Anyone can pass fake ballots to commit vote fraud. As I stated, same day registrations require time to verify them, leading to potential vote fraud. You have not presented any evidence to any of your claims either.
I once tried to K Me. Posted It and Reported. Locked by Mods. I am Autistic accounts for Repetitive Nature. I am Very Civil and Respectful to all on NS and off NS. My Opinions Are Not Bad Opinions No Ones Opinions Are Bad Opinons. We are on NS, to share, discuss, argue, disagree, on Trump, elections, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Libertarians and whatevers, with respect. This Respect Is Given It Is Not Earned, This Respect Is Called Freedom of Expression and Democracy. This Man Always Says What He Means, I Am The Real Thing. I Make Ted Cruz look like a Leftist. I have been on NS For over 10 Years with a Perfect Record of No Baiting, Trolling, Flaming, or Using Foul Language. I Am Very Proud of It and Wish To Keep My Record Clean. But I Am Not The Only One On NS. GMS. I'm Based.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:41 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
An here we go with the reversal. What evidence do you have of same day registration leading to fraud? None I gather.

You have no evidence either.
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Had to get rid of that Pee Wee Herman spam...but anyway. Of all the bald face lies that you repeat this the baldiest facest...

Well, I mean, really it's just one of your run of the mill lies.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/en ... oter-fraud

https://www.hoover.org/research/no-evid ... 0-election

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... the-risks/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/1 ... e-polling/

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/a ... -election/

https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/dead-pe ... rare-fraud

https://evidencebasedliving.human.corne ... ter-fraud/

Now, when you reach out to your keyboard to type out more lies about how facts work and the number of people who believe like you do, remember that you're now lying about studies that have actually examined the issue.

Not that this will dissuade you from lying, but just so we're all clear what you're lying about.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:43 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:'
No it doesn't. Still waiting on your proof of same day registration leading to fraud. I believe is not evidence.

Since they can pass test ballots and get mixed up with real votes as real votes. Anyone can pass fake ballots to commit vote fraud. As I stated, same day registrations require time to verify them, leading to potential vote fraud. You have not presented any evidence to any of your claims either.


As usual you have no clue what your talking about. It was a mistake not fraud. It is a crime is distribute fake ballots. Where has this ever happened?

The burden of proof is on you since you made the claim regarding same day registration. How about you present evidence?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:43 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:You have no evidence either.

Had to get rid of that Pee Wee Herman spam...but anyway. Of all the bald face lies that you repeat this the baldiest facest...

Well, I mean, really it's just one of your run of the mill lies.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/en ... oter-fraud

https://www.hoover.org/research/no-evid ... 0-election

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... the-risks/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/1 ... e-polling/

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/a ... -election/

https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/dead-pe ... rare-fraud

https://evidencebasedliving.human.corne ... ter-fraud/

Now, when you reach out to your keyboard to type out more lies about how facts work and the number of people who believe like you do, remember that you're now lying about studies that have actually examined the issue.

Not that this will dissuade you from lying, but just so we're all clear what you're lying about.


Bless. I love that you did this. GMS will ignore it though. He lies all the time.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:49 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Had to get rid of that Pee Wee Herman spam...but anyway. Of all the bald face lies that you repeat this the baldiest facest...

Well, I mean, really it's just one of your run of the mill lies.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/en ... oter-fraud

https://www.hoover.org/research/no-evid ... 0-election

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... the-risks/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/1 ... e-polling/

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/a ... -election/

https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/dead-pe ... rare-fraud

https://evidencebasedliving.human.corne ... ter-fraud/

Now, when you reach out to your keyboard to type out more lies about how facts work and the number of people who believe like you do, remember that you're now lying about studies that have actually examined the issue.

Not that this will dissuade you from lying, but just so we're all clear what you're lying about.


Bless. I love that you did this. GMS will ignore it though. He lies all the time.

GMS: lol, I ain't never lied. Who says I lie? Stated and decided by the Persons who strongly disagree with me and us? :) lol. I'm having a massive loll attack, :) :rofl: anyone please call 911? Would you and you guys agree with any Persons that call you a liar? I Think Not. Would you. I am not going to accept any biased, partisan sources and neither would you and you guys. according to you and you guys? Sorry for the word salad that makes perfect logical sense?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:50 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Bless. I love that you did this. GMS will ignore it though. He lies all the time.

GMS: lol, I ain't never lied. Who says I lie? The Persons who strongly disagree with me? :) lol. I'm having a massive loll attack, anyone please call 911? Would you and you guys agree with any Persons that call you a liar? I Think Not. Would you. I am not going to accept any biased, partisan sources and neither would you and you guys. according to you and you guys? Sorry for the word salad that makes perfect logical sense?


Your claim was just refuted by multiple studies yet you keep posting this drivel. Do you bother to read anything someone writes?

Those are studies done by non biased sources.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Had to get rid of that Pee Wee Herman spam...but anyway. Of all the bald face lies that you repeat this the baldiest facest...

Well, I mean, really it's just one of your run of the mill lies.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/en ... oter-fraud

https://www.hoover.org/research/no-evid ... 0-election

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... the-risks/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/1 ... e-polling/

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/a ... -election/

https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/dead-pe ... rare-fraud

https://evidencebasedliving.human.corne ... ter-fraud/

Now, when you reach out to your keyboard to type out more lies about how facts work and the number of people who believe like you do, remember that you're now lying about studies that have actually examined the issue.

Not that this will dissuade you from lying, but just so we're all clear what you're lying about.


Bless. I love that you did this. GMS will ignore it though. He lies all the time.

He's kind of lied himself into a corner at this point. Now it's just lies on top of lies, like a little pillow fort of lies.

A My Pillow fort of lies, even.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:GMS: lol, I ain't never lied. Who says I lie? The Persons who strongly disagree with me? :) lol. I'm having a massive loll attack, anyone please call 911? Would you and you guys agree with any Persons that call you a liar? I Think Not. Would you. I am not going to accept any biased, partisan sources and neither would you and you guys. according to you and you guys? Sorry for the word salad that makes perfect logical sense?


Your claim was just refuted by multiple studies yet you keep posting this drivel. Do you bother to read anything someone writes?

Those are studies done by non biased sources.

No, they are biased partisan sources. You and a few others call our sources garbage, trash and a rag. But I for one don't call your sources, garbage, trash and a rag. I just call them biased, partisan and strongly disagree with them.
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Postby Uiiop » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:54 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Your claim was just refuted by multiple studies yet you keep posting this drivel. Do you bother to read anything someone writes?

Those are studies done by non biased sources.

No, they are biased partisan sources. You and a few others call our sources garbage, trash and a rag. But I for one don't call your sources, garbage, trash and a rag. I just call them biased, partisan and strongly disagree with them.

What's the difference between saying those two things?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:55 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Bless. I love that you did this. GMS will ignore it though. He lies all the time.

He's kind of lied himself into a corner at this point. Now it's just lies on top of lies, like a little pillow fort of lies.

A My Pillow fort of lies, even.

Really Dude :) ? Decided by whom? Those who strongly disagree with me and US :) I Rest My Case. GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto with Pride and Honor.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:56 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Your claim was just refuted by multiple studies yet you keep posting this drivel. Do you bother to read anything someone writes?

Those are studies done by non biased sources.

No, they are biased partisan sources. You and a few others call our sources garbage, trash and a rag. But I for one don't call your sources, garbage, trash and a rag. I just call them biased, partisan and strongly disagree with them.

So now you're lying about the groups doing the study. Groups I would wager a crisp bill that you've never fucking heard of in your life for the most part.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:00 pm

The Caleshan Valkyrie wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not going to happen as it would require a constitutional amendment.


But hey, it resonates with his base... insofar as unreasonable bullshit seems to resonate a lot nowadays.


Not if I know my Florida Hispanics, many of whom lean Republican and enjoy dual citizenship.

That is one strange contextless tweet. The mechanism for banning dual US-whatever citizenship would be what? No one in the US, especially not a state rep, has the authority to force any other nation to withdraw citizenship from anyone, and under the US courts as currently constituted the mere fact of having another citizenship is not an expatriating act. There's no particular benefit under US law to having another, or a number of other, citizenships, so whether or not the US "recognizes" them is beside the point.

It just seems like random xenophobia or some kind of Republican version of Old Man Shouts at Cloud.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:02 pm

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Why ? Trump did not keep his promises either and his base does not care. Why would Biden be treated differently ?

Because dems hold their people accountable.


When your party's only goal is getting and keeping power, including through violent insurrection, it makes things like disagreements on "policy" kind of moot.
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