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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pm

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/ne ... ale-mayor/

Dr Rita Ali was sworn in yesterday as Peoria's first black and first female mayor and the first Democratic mayor since the early 1980s though the latter I am not completely certain of.

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Postby Shrillland » Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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Truly sad that's her priorities. Its a near certainty she gets reelected as she remains popular. South Dakota has not elected a Democratic governor since Richard Kneip won reelection in 1974.

The last Democrat to serve was Harvey Wollman who became Governor when Kneip resigned to become Ambassador to Singapore. Wollman was defeated for renomination in 1978 primary.

South Dakota's streak of Republican governors is the longest period of single party control of all fifty states.


Nike is going after the rapper for use of their logo swoosh.

Even then; a governor shouldn’t be getting into a pissing match with a rapper.


She has to. Her national profile's rising, she needs a culture war skirmish to raise her street cred.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 05, 2021 1:05 pm

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Nike is going after the rapper for use of their logo swoosh.

Even then; a governor shouldn’t be getting into a pissing match with a rapper.


She has to. Her national profile's rising, she needs a culture war skirmish to raise her street cred.


I wouldn't be surprised if she's a VP pick for a future Republican nominee for president.

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Postby Shrillland » Wed May 05, 2021 1:08 pm

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She has to. Her national profile's rising, she needs a culture war skirmish to raise her street cred.


I wouldn't be surprised if she's a VP pick for a future Republican nominee for president.


At this point, I can see Trump choosing her since Pence seems to be going out for himself.
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Postby Xmara » Wed May 05, 2021 1:09 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:He has a rather large cult. The only way he will disappear is when he takes his dirt bath.

And even then, he’s got five kids to carry on his legacy, and they have kids, so it’ll probably be a few generations before he actually disappears.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 05, 2021 1:10 pm

Xmara wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:He has a rather large cult. The only way he will disappear is when he takes his dirt bath.

And even then, he’s got five kids to carry on his legacy, and they have kids, so it’ll probably be a few generations before he actually disappears.


I suspect his family will be leaders in the party for years to come.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 1:13 pm

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Trump is a special case because he's got so much influence and such a bad track record. If they let him back on, they're running the risk he's gonna start saying and doing stupid shit again, which led to the capitol seige in the first place.


I agree with you about Trump, but also disagree in general about "permanent" bans for the same reasons I disagree with life sentence without parole or too long "statue of limitation": people can and do change. I were Facebook I would decide something like a 15 years or 20 years ban is the maximum penalty. It's not like it would matter much for Trump case, it would de facto be a life ban, but it would feel better as a general policy. And sure Facebook itself might not longer exist by then ;)


Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 05, 2021 1:14 pm

Xmara wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:He has a rather large cult. The only way he will disappear is when he takes his dirt bath.

And even then, he’s got five kids to carry on his legacy, and they have kids, so it’ll probably be a few generations before he actually disappears.


I am not too worried about it. His children are morons. They lack his BS ability.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed May 05, 2021 1:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Xmara wrote:And even then, he’s got five kids to carry on his legacy, and they have kids, so it’ll probably be a few generations before he actually disappears.


I am not too worried about it. His children are morons. They lack his BS ability.


They don't need it. The self-repeating, ever-intensifying feedback loop of right-wing propaganda is all that's needed to sustain them.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 1:18 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Xmara wrote:And even then, he’s got five kids to carry on his legacy, and they have kids, so it’ll probably be a few generations before he actually disappears.


I am not too worried about it. His children are morons. They lack his BS ability.


Don Jr. hasn’t learned it isn’t a good idea not to record yourself ranting right after doing three fat ass rails of coke.
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Postby Kilobugya » Wed May 05, 2021 1:21 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.


I was definitely not comparing the severity of the effect - just the idea of punishing people for very long times in general, regardless of the importance of the crime or of the punishment, strikes me as unfair because people can change and improve themselves.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Kilobugya wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Trump is a special case because he's got so much influence and such a bad track record. If they let him back on, they're running the risk he's gonna start saying and doing stupid shit again, which led to the capitol seige in the first place.


I agree with you about Trump, but also disagree in general about "permanent" bans for the same reasons I disagree with life sentence without parole or too long "statue of limitation": people can and do change. I were Facebook I would decide something like a 15 years or 20 years ban is the maximum penalty. It's not like it would matter much for Trump case, it would de facto be a life ban, but it would feel better as a general policy. And sure Facebook itself might not longer exist by then ;)


Nahh. If you are too stupid/arrogant/whatever, you deserve it. Even here we have DOS people. Why? Almost all are not going to change and they only want to cause shit for other people.

Trump is a troll and got banned for being one. The fact he had the title of POTUS doesn’t give him the right to troll.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 1:31 pm

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North Washington Republic wrote:Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.


I was definitely not comparing the severity of the effect - just the idea of punishing people for very long times in general, regardless of the importance of the crime or of the punishment, strikes me as unfair because people can change and improve themselves.


Disagree. Degenerates like Donald Trump should be permanently banned from social media.
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Zurkerx wrote:A Judge has ruled that the CDC doesn't have authority to issue an eviction moratorium. This would have ended on June 30th but it remains unclear what happens now. This moratorium has protected millions during the pandemic and would be a considered a win for Landlords looking for payments. Some courts have ruled in favor of the CDC on this issue while others haven't, showing there's an inconsistency on the issue.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 1:41 pm

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Zurkerx wrote:A Judge has ruled that the CDC doesn't have authority to issue an eviction moratorium. This would have ended on June 30th but it remains unclear what happens now. This moratorium has protected millions during the pandemic and would be a considered a win for Landlords looking for payments. Some courts have ruled in favor of the CDC on this issue while others haven't, showing there's an inconsistency on the issue.

DOJ to appeal


I hope the appeal is successful. If not, there is going to be a lot of families with small children thrown onto the streets.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 05, 2021 1:42 pm

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I hope the appeal is successful. If not, there is going to be a lot of families with small children thrown onto the streets.


I hope so too. If its not the Supreme Court will have to weigh in.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 1:42 pm

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I hope the appeal is successful. If not, there is going to be a lot of families with small children thrown onto the streets.


I hope so too. If its not the Supreme Court will have to weigh in.


SCOUTS has a ultra-conservative majority. So, you know what that means. :(
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed May 05, 2021 1:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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I agree with you about Trump, but also disagree in general about "permanent" bans for the same reasons I disagree with life sentence without parole or too long "statue of limitation": people can and do change. I were Facebook I would decide something like a 15 years or 20 years ban is the maximum penalty. It's not like it would matter much for Trump case, it would de facto be a life ban, but it would feel better as a general policy. And sure Facebook itself might not longer exist by then ;)


Nahh. If you are too stupid/arrogant/whatever, you deserve it. Even here we have DOS people. Why? Almost all are not going to change and they only want to cause shit for other people.

Trump is a troll and got banned for being one. The fact he had the title of POTUS doesn’t give you the right to troll.

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They're a socialist.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 05, 2021 1:59 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
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I hope so too. If its not the Supreme Court will have to weigh in.


SCOUTS has a ultra-conservative majority. So, you know what that means. :(


Yup which doesn't give one much optimism.

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Postby Kilobugya » Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Question: Are you one the private property types for free market?


Sorry I don't understand the question.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 05, 2021 2:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:A Judge has ruled that the CDC doesn't have authority to issue an eviction moratorium. This would have ended on June 30th but it remains unclear what happens now. This moratorium has protected millions during the pandemic and would be a considered a win for Landlords looking for payments. Some courts have ruled in favor of the CDC on this issue while others haven't, showing there's an inconsistency on the issue.

DOJ to appeal

I always wonder what these idiots think they’re actually advocating for when they say the eviction moratorium should be listed... like do they really want to turn millions of people into the streets at the tail end of a pandemic and recession as we’re heading into summer? Does that really seem like a good way of maintaining national stability...?
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Postby Kilobugya » Wed May 05, 2021 2:12 pm

Senkaku wrote:

I always wonder what these idiots think they’re actually advocating for when they say the eviction moratorium should be listed... like do they really want to turn millions of people into the streets at the tail end of a pandemic and recession as we’re heading into summer? Does that really seem like a good way of maintaining national stability...?


It seems they care more about the sacred private property than about lives, public health or national stability... :/
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Postby Esthe » Wed May 05, 2021 2:13 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:
I agree with you about Trump, but also disagree in general about "permanent" bans for the same reasons I disagree with life sentence without parole or too long "statue of limitation": people can and do change. I were Facebook I would decide something like a 15 years or 20 years ban is the maximum penalty. It's not like it would matter much for Trump case, it would de facto be a life ban, but it would feel better as a general policy. And sure Facebook itself might not longer exist by then ;)


Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.

To be fair, most of us haven’t. How is it?
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Postby North Washington Republic » Wed May 05, 2021 2:32 pm

Esthe wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.

To be fair, most of us haven’t. How is it?


I spend a half day in jail over a charge that was later dismissed. I would choose being banned on Twitter and Facebook over spending an hour in jail.

Anyway, I hope social media companies start banning more people. People don’t have a constitutional right to a social media account, and degenerates like Donald Trump need to be banned from social media because of the danger they pose to society as a whole.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed May 05, 2021 2:34 pm

Esthe wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Comparing a life time ban on a social media website to even a half-day in jail tells me you haven’t even spend or even know anyone that has spent time in jail.

To be fair, most of us haven’t. How is it?

Nothing at all like not being able to use a social media site.
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Senkaku wrote:I always wonder what these idiots think they’re actually advocating for when they say the eviction moratorium should be listed... like do they really want to turn millions of people into the streets at the tail end of a pandemic and recession as we’re heading into summer? Does that really seem like a good way of maintaining national stability...?


It seems they care more about the sacred private property than about lives, public health or national stability... :/

Dunno who they think is gonna rent their ‘private property’ when they contribute to a financial crisis spurred by mass evictions.
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